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cali

(114,904 posts)
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:39 AM Sep 2014

Will you still be supporting this war/campaign/whatever in 2017 if there's a republican president?

I view this as a new war, not merely some extension of the IW. It's being waged against against a new adversary/enemy. Central to this effort is bombing conducted in another country. But however you view it, if a republican is elected president, and if this is still ongoing when he takes office, will you still be supporting it? Will you support Jeb Bush or whoever in his effort to wipe out extremism?

High ranking members of the military have informed us that this campaign will likely last for years. I admit to finding that perplexing, but I'll take it at face value, so this isn't an impossible scenario. Nor is it impossible that a republican will be be elected President in 2016.

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Will you still be supporting this war/campaign/whatever in 2017 if there's a republican president? (Original Post) cali Sep 2014 OP
This has been my point. Even the most loyal morningfog Sep 2014 #1
did you oppose maintenance of the no-fly zones during the Clinton administration? jberryhill Sep 2014 #2
and sanctions reddread Sep 2014 #10
If a Republican President presents a convincing case that it advances US security, I'll support it Recursion Sep 2014 #3
That doesn't make a whole lot of sense cali Sep 2014 #5
Cali, sorry, I was obviously unclear: I don't think there's a case that can be made here Recursion Sep 2014 #6
thanks. I understand what you're saying. cali Sep 2014 #7
No more than I support it now. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #4
I don't support it now. NaturalHigh Sep 2014 #8
I am against it NOW, and if it's still going on then, I will still be against it. CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2014 #9
 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
1. This has been my point. Even the most loyal
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:30 AM
Sep 2014

Obama dem has to realize that all bets and promises are off in 2017.

This war will still be going on in 2017. This mess will be left to the next president and we have no idea who that will be.

It is not impossible that the next one will "surge" in Syria to get the job done and get us out of the quagmire. Or expand to other nations. Or pivot explicitly to Assad (if Obama hasn't already).

There is no war to know what one is supporting when there is no clear objective, no end point and no exit strategy.

Here's another possibility: a pro-Syrian war dem candidate in hawkish Hillary and an anti-Syria war republican in any repub running on an "opposite to Obama in every issue" platform.

Then what?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
2. did you oppose maintenance of the no-fly zones during the Clinton administration?
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:32 AM
Sep 2014

Maintenance of the no-fly zones regularly required elimination of anti-aircraft installations in Iraq during the entire Clinton administration.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
3. If a Republican President presents a convincing case that it advances US security, I'll support it
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:32 AM
Sep 2014

I'm shockingly consistent that way, and our current POTUS has not met that test IMO.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
5. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:47 AM
Sep 2014

if, at the onset, you don't believe that the current CoC has presented a compelling case, doesn't it seem highly unlikely that the next denizen of the WH, will be able to do so?

I get that you're saying that you don't take party into consideration and appreciate that, but realistically....

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
6. Cali, sorry, I was obviously unclear: I don't think there's a case that can be made here
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:50 AM
Sep 2014

I was just stating to avoid the charge of partisanship that if a GOP President could make a convincing case that this action was for our national security I would support it. I doubt any President could make that case. I think this will go down as Obama's major blunder, personally.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
7. thanks. I understand what you're saying.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:53 AM
Sep 2014

I agree that this has all the elements necessary to produce a gigantic clusterfuck.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,678 posts)
9. I am against it NOW, and if it's still going on then, I will still be against it.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 04:57 AM
Sep 2014

And it doesn't matter who is President. I will still be against it.

Yuck.

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