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FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 03:47 PM Sep 2014

A Creationist Just Became Florida State University’s New President

Last week, we learned that Republican State Senator John Thrasher was one of the finalists to become Florida State University’s next president.

The research-focused school held forums for the final four candidates and Thrasher couldn’t even answer simple questions about evolution and climate change. Those answers alone should have doomed his candidacy (not to mention the fact that he had no experience in academia). Instead, last night, the Board of Trustees voted 11-2 to install him as the school’s next president:



As a University of Florida alumnus, I find this both hilarious that our instate rival chose such a president (the jokes will write themselves), but also pissed that our state is such a laughingstock.

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A Creationist Just Became Florida State University’s New President (Original Post) FLPanhandle Sep 2014 OP
See, I told you shenmue Sep 2014 #1
No. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #2
I love this state FLPanhandle Sep 2014 #8
Don't forget Fried mullet. Yummy Lochloosa Sep 2014 #10
Fried Mullet? Xyzse Sep 2014 #13
Accidental DUzy!! KamaAina Sep 2014 #21
Lol Lochloosa Sep 2014 #24
LOL Xyzse Sep 2014 #30
North Florida is famous for its fish fries. Lochloosa Sep 2014 #26
Thanks! Xyzse Sep 2014 #31
Ugh! Cheese grits again! KamaAina Sep 2014 #35
Only at a fish fry. Now, mixing your yolks in them. Oh yeah. Lochloosa Sep 2014 #36
Yep. Break up your sausage & eggs and mix into grits. Eleanors38 Sep 2014 #51
I'm with you except when combining the grits with seafood FLPanhandle Sep 2014 #47
I guess you'll just have to come down to the Boggy Bayou Mullet Festival this year. FLPanhandle Sep 2014 #27
Nice... Perhaps I will one day. Xyzse Sep 2014 #32
Back when it was legal, my Dad "snatched" mullet Eleanors38 Sep 2014 #52
It is! It's amazing the creatures that get elected into office. It's amazing Scott isn't sitting RKP5637 Sep 2014 #53
My friend, have you been to Florida? AngryAmish Sep 2014 #44
I've lived here for over a decade and a half. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #50
Let 'em laugh. I grew up there, graduated from U of F, Eleanors38 Sep 2014 #54
What is that smell every time I fly into Miami International? snooper2 Sep 2014 #56
Ever read "Finding Florida" by TD Allman? FLPanhandle Sep 2014 #4
Okay shenmue Sep 2014 #12
He'll probably throw out all science textbooks and replace them with the Bible. Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #3
So, on the upside, there will be cost savings for the students FLPanhandle Sep 2014 #5
Students can pick one up for free from any hotel room. BuckIA Sep 2014 #6
How about a new Department of Religious Science? CanonRay Sep 2014 #11
I thought Florida State was just a pro football team rurallib Sep 2014 #7
Now, the only university in the country where the QB is smarter than the university president. FLPanhandle Sep 2014 #9
! rurallib Sep 2014 #37
+1 LOL. n/t FSogol Sep 2014 #15
How's the U of F president doing these days? madville Sep 2014 #14
Ol' Bernie isn't perfect that's for sure. FLPanhandle Sep 2014 #16
As the university didn't evolve from an amoeba, I don't see this as a problem. HereSince1628 Sep 2014 #17
How could that be possible? A major University, run by a profoundly ignorant person. nt ladjf Sep 2014 #18
University presidents need to be able to fake smiles and beg for money HereSince1628 Sep 2014 #19
I've taught at the University level for 30 years and I respectfully ladjf Sep 2014 #23
In my 30 years at college and university teaching my experience has varied with yours HereSince1628 Sep 2014 #25
Sounds like you have had some bad experiences with your Presidents. I've only taught at two ladjf Sep 2014 #28
Columbia U. isn't known by its presidential track record... Eleanors38 Sep 2014 #55
A president is also the face of the university. FLPanhandle Sep 2014 #29
He's also pRick Scott's campaign chair KamaAina Sep 2014 #20
Booby Jindal is throwing a hissy fit KamaAina Sep 2014 #22
Can he do the job? Yes! 11-2 is an incredible vote of confidence yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #33
Way to support ignorance phil89 Sep 2014 #38
Whatever! FSU all the way! Best university in the country! yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #39
Proud? FLPanhandle Sep 2014 #40
Love it! The jealousy oozes! yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #41
LOL FLPanhandle Sep 2014 #42
Just having fun. yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #43
Vote tampering (like jury tampering)? How could 11 people be so stupid otherwise? nt valerief Sep 2014 #34
Apparently if you believe in the magic man in the sky LittleBlue Sep 2014 #45
a creationist running a public university? Terra Alta Sep 2014 #46
I wonder how many other universities have Ilsa Sep 2014 #48
Say, isn't this the school where Charles Koch approves of Econ. faculty hires? genwah Sep 2014 #49

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
8. I love this state
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 04:06 PM
Sep 2014

The weather, the swamps, the rivers, the bayous, the beaches of the panhandle, the Florida Keys, the pine forests, the orange groves, etc.

It'd depressing what a string of crappy politicians we've been stuck with though.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
13. Fried Mullet?
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 04:27 PM
Sep 2014

I am adventurous in food, but eating back hair is just not my idea of a good time.

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I think you must elaborate, since I think I may be getting the wrong idea.

Lochloosa

(16,065 posts)
26. North Florida is famous for its fish fries.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 05:23 PM
Sep 2014

It's almost always mullet or catfish. With hush puppies and cheese grits. Oh, and don't forget the cold beer.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
35. Ugh! Cheese grits again!
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 05:36 PM
Sep 2014

I had it out with an FB friend the other day about the merits (or lack thereof) of adulterating perfectly good grits with cheese.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
51. Yep. Break up your sausage & eggs and mix into grits.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 10:50 AM
Sep 2014

My Mom remembers going to political fish fries where grits were served. Collard greens, too. The earliest such event was the Katz camp. for governor in the 20s.

During the Depression a party was boiled peanuts, followed later by home-made icecream. The only real expense was a block of ice. Our family continued using block ice from a house by the old ACL tracks in G'ville, up into the 60s. That house is still there, used for other purposes. Tracks are long-gone.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
47. I'm with you except when combining the grits with seafood
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:06 PM
Sep 2014

Shrimp on top of grits with Gouda cheese. Amazing.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
27. I guess you'll just have to come down to the Boggy Bayou Mullet Festival this year.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 05:26 PM
Sep 2014

You'll see plenty of both kinds of mullets.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
52. Back when it was legal, my Dad "snatched" mullet
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 10:58 AM
Sep 2014

from S. Fla. canals using a #64 treble hook. Got 60 one time, put 'em on ice fir the trip back to G'ville, where we had the privilege of cleaning them. Ate half of them in one night!

Ah! The days when we were amazed when the population went over 4 million, and wild hogs were mysterious creatures in the palmetto flats.

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
53. It is! It's amazing the creatures that get elected into office. It's amazing Scott isn't sitting
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 11:01 AM
Sep 2014

in jail, for example. For such a beautiful place, there are certainly some super ugly politicians in office.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
44. My friend, have you been to Florida?
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 06:52 PM
Sep 2014

There is a reason why it is the laughingstock of the civilized world.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
50. I've lived here for over a decade and a half.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 10:22 AM
Sep 2014

Before that, I've visited regularly since I was an infant.

I've been all over the state--North, Central, South. Loved just about all of it (Disney World and all the mess around it being the main exception.)

Besides maybe Hawaii, there's no other state in this country where I'd rather live.

All of Florida's many flaws cannot detract from its many attributes. Not even close.

The associated craziness with Florida only makes for good writing fodder for Carl Hiaasen and Tim Dorsey novels. It only adds to the charm.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
54. Let 'em laugh. I grew up there, graduated from U of F,
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 11:04 AM
Sep 2014

moved, but visit family twice a year.

Get your jollies keeping up regional steteotypes. I for one will continue to appeal to millions of people who some here prefer to laugh at.

Obama. Twice.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
56. What is that smell every time I fly into Miami International?
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 11:19 AM
Sep 2014

Walk outside that airport and the nasty just hits you in the face LOL-

Luckily I never stay, just a smoke break then back to the terminal


FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
4. Ever read "Finding Florida" by TD Allman?
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 03:53 PM
Sep 2014

Excellent and entertaining book but, oh so accurate, about this state.

*sigh* I do love the water and boating though and, at least we aren't Texas.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
5. So, on the upside, there will be cost savings for the students
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 03:56 PM
Sep 2014

One KJV Bible is the only text book they need regardless of course or major.

LOL.

madville

(7,410 posts)
14. How's the U of F president doing these days?
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 04:36 PM
Sep 2014

Publicly endorsing among other things, John McCain for President, pro-Israel policies, doubling tuition costs over a five year period, etc, winners all around

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
16. Ol' Bernie isn't perfect that's for sure.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 04:45 PM
Sep 2014

However, he has done a good job on the academic front.

The hope is Rick Scott is gone before Machen retires or we could end up with a similar right wing nut-job as FSU.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
17. As the university didn't evolve from an amoeba, I don't see this as a problem.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 04:49 PM
Sep 2014

Presidents 'glad hand' to raise money, and they are the ultimate back-stop of institutional fiscal incompetence.

I am pretty sure the staff can run the place until it crashes, and it all falls on his head.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
19. University presidents need to be able to fake smiles and beg for money
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 05:14 PM
Sep 2014

it really has very very little to do with believing in evolution.

When he jumps up and bans 100 level Zoology or Botany courses that include evolution, we would have license to worry. But even then it would mostly be about imposition of an administrator into curricular issues the AAUP suggests be deferred to faculty.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
23. I've taught at the University level for 30 years and I respectfully
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 05:21 PM
Sep 2014

disagree with some points in your post.

A good University needs to have a vast amount of knowledge that includes far more than begging skills.

I don't disagree that many college presidents fit description you used. But not many who are as public ally ignorant as this guy.
Anyone who could possibly believe that the Earth is only 10,000 years old has worked hard trying to stay ignorant.
My guess is that most politicians claiming to be creationists are pandering for votes.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
28. Sounds like you have had some bad experiences with your Presidents. I've only taught at two
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 05:28 PM
Sep 2014

Universities under five Presidents. They were all different but with one exception, they were very bright, highly educated people who were outstanding scholars and were a joy to work with.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
29. A president is also the face of the university.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 05:28 PM
Sep 2014

How can your president be soliciting funds for science research when he is famous for rejecting science?

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
20. He's also pRick Scott's campaign chair
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 05:16 PM
Sep 2014

I'm sure that had not a thing to do with his selection.

In a way, it's almost just as well that playahata never lived to see this.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
33. Can he do the job? Yes! 11-2 is an incredible vote of confidence
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 05:31 PM
Sep 2014

Good for him! Yep a Florida State Alumnus here. I am so proud of my school today! Funny how they just sent a campaign for donation and I am going to double my usual donation.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
43. Just having fun.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 06:50 PM
Sep 2014

I am actually disappointed in this decision. The students will protest this most likely.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
45. Apparently if you believe in the magic man in the sky
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 06:53 PM
Sep 2014

that's fine. But you've crossed the line at creationism.

I don't believe in any of this stuff. As long as he performs his job and doesn't try to use the university to force his views on others, meh.

Terra Alta

(5,158 posts)
46. a creationist running a public university?
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 06:59 PM
Sep 2014


It's outrageous. Wouldn't he be a better fit at Bob Jones University or Hyles-Anderson or some other fundie school, where they teach crap more in line with his beliefs?

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
48. I wonder how many other universities have
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:43 PM
Sep 2014

Closed-minded creationists for their presidents? Most probably haven't made their position (or beliefs) public unless they are employed at private religious colleges or are former politicians.

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