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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAfter 9 Years and $67 Billion, F-22 Raptor Sees Combat in Syria
The Pentagons newest fighter jet saw combat for the first time on Monday during the U.S.-led attacks against Islamic militants inside Syria. The F-22 Raptor made its fighting debut nearly nine years after the Air Force took delivery of the jet.
The $67 billion F-22 program is one of the most expensive in Pentagon history, and the military is blunt about its perceived advantage: The F-22 cannot be matched by any known or projected fighter aircraft, according to the Air Force.
Be that as it may, the Obama administration notified the Syrian government that the strikes were coming on Monday, likely to reduce the risk of a U.S. fighter jet being shot down, and five Arab governments supported the offensive. There was reason to worry about risks from surface-to-air missiles, as the Air Force Times reported: The Syrian defense system has been cast by Pentagon leadership as highly advanced, and was cited as a reason U.S. forces could not launch raids on the Assad regime in the early days of the Syrian civil war.
The F-22?s cost was one reason former Defense Secretary Robert Gates pressed to end production in late 2011, at a time when the Air Force had already received 187 of the planes from Lockheed Martin (LMT). The first F-22s entered service in December 2005.
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Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)This overpriced stealthy alleged air superiority fighter is used for ground attacks? What a "wonderful" use of tax dollars.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)the F-15E Strike Eagle is a fighter/bomber, the F-111 Ardvaark is a fighter/bomber, the F/A-18 Hornet is also a fighter/ bomber.
The US military has invested heavily in dual role aircraft in supposedly cost saving program.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)most fighters at one time or another have bombs hung on them, turning them into attack aircraft. That said the F22 was conceived as an stealthy air superiority or air dominance fighter. Only later did some bright folks decide to make it into the F/A22. In any event there would be likely no need to use this supposedly high tech/high cost aircraft in these strikes. The older aircraft are fully capable of dominating the airspace and carrying out the missions (many of which it appears were done with shipboard Tomahawks).
The F22 is like the F35 a boondoggle and waste of taxpayers money in my opinion. Yes, the F15's, F16's and F/A18's are older designs and airframes do wear out from use, but they can be replaced at much lower costs (as their R&D and tooling are already done). They are just fine particularly for this type of strike mission.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)I'm sorry if I sounded like I was lecturing, your post indicated, to me, that you didn't know about dual role aircraft.
My apologies.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)and welcome to DU.
malaise
(269,026 posts)Men have money to make
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Along comes a war, right on time.
malaise
(269,026 posts)I don't know why we're surprised.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)those billions of dollars. What better place to do so than the ME? 'Kill' (forgive the macabre pun) two birds with one stone'.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)None will be sold.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)tammywammy
(26,582 posts)The F-35 is in production with multiple governments committed to it. No one would invest in the money it would require to build and start production on the F-22, plus there's be reengineering involved. It would take years. Countries that are already purchasing the F-35 wouldn't also purchase the F-22.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)$67 billion, imagine all the good that could have been done with that.
malaise
(269,026 posts)while calling everyone else barbarian
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)Beheading was evil and Bombs were Justice. Thought he nailed it pretty good. Like you just did..
n2doc
(47,953 posts)Air supremacy is job 1 in todays modern war
they get to use their 67 billlion dollar toys!
packman
(16,296 posts)If the US would just tell every militant, "Come over to our side, we'll give you a million $ and set you up in a ranch in Texas" if it would have been cheaper and more effective.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Except it would be made of steel and cars could drive across it.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)I'm glad I didn't know that. Every hit on an Isis Toyota costs: ?
The missiles must be in the millions then add the cost of the Raptor.
I hope the Gulf states are ponying up their share of this war.
former9thward
(32,016 posts)The MIC folks wanted to play with their new toy.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)CaptainTruth
(6,592 posts)The F-22 cannot be matched by any known or projected fighter aircraft, according to the Air Force.
So that means the F-22 won't be matched by the F-35?
If that's the case, why are we spending so darn much on the F-35 when it apparently (according to the Air Force) will have lesser capabilities than the F-22?
Is the F-35 not considered a fighter aircraft?
Confused ... ?
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Erose999
(5,624 posts)sought after by the Marines for their close air support aircraft.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)a new BMW, and let them find their own virgins.