Next time you hear someone say "no one gives a shit about climate change," show them this photo

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Adam Smith
https://twitter.com/No_KXL/status/513802439288311808/photo/1
This is My Civic Engagement Project to Stop the Keystone Pipeline & fight




Congratulations to the 400,000 people who made history in New York City today. We're one big step closer to real action.
After today, the only question is whether world leaders will do their democratic and moral duty and move towards action.
Just for context the 310,000 people who marched at #PeoplesClimate outnumber the entire populations of Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Cincinnati
https://twitter.com/350

[randys1]

1. Was suppose to go to my local version but knee is bothering me and cant walk good

but this is awesome

[yeoman6987]

25. I hope they took up a collection

Money is what is needed. Hearing speeches is great, but they should have collected a few million to send to a climate change organization. That is where the action is.

[hrmjustin]

2. so glad my friends, parish, and the Episcopal Diocese of New York marched.

[Mnemosyne]

3. K&R! nt

[jtuck004]

4. Well, not as many as a really big air show, but maybe one day people will get interested. n/t

[RoccoR5955]

8. Wrong! N/t

[jtuck004]

9. Over a million- 2014, so about twice as many to watch jets flit about. Unless you mean

people won't get really interested in the climate problem, which is more likely until they are a lot less comfortable. We will see, but if the organizers can't do it any bigger than this after all the publicity and push, they are going to continue to get over run by their opponents.

But like many of these, perhaps the organizers are too busy congratulating themselves for their "great job".


For reference:
http://thenortheasthub.com/blog/sunderland-airshow-2014-breaks-attendance-record/

[RoccoR5955]

12. According to the folks who made money from it

So I still say that they lie for publicity and are WRONG!!

[jtuck004]

13. Wow. I probably won't sleep. Anyway, numbers aren't everything. If those were

600,000 billionaires out there stomping their feet for climate change, they might stand a chance. Having watched such efforts since the first Earth Day and seeing where we are now doesn't fill me with hope.

But it was exhilarating.

Good for them/you, though. Have fun and make it a better place.

[Cartoonist]

19. You miscalculate the power of billionaires

I doubt more than 20 or 30 are needed. Only two if they are named Koch.

[pangaia]

16. Comparing the Climate march to an airshow

is like comparing Beethoven to the Kardashians.

[AnalystInParadise]

21. You are of course, correct.

There is a lot of planning and technical
skill that goes into an airshow

[pangaia]

28. So you intentionally miss the entire point.

Good work.

[AnalystInParadise]

40. Nope

It is called word association. I think airshows are more technical than this farce.....I mean march

[jtuck004]

33. Uh, the marchers did more for us than Kardashians. Almost anything does.

And air shows are much more complex, much more like Beethoven.

Still, although I am sure a lot of people had a lot of fun, it gets tiresome with the ego-inflated pointing to every little thing as anything worth notice. Then again, for people with little experience, perhaps it seemed larger than it was.

I am surprised, after watching 40 yeas of protests and marches and singing and etc that it was that small. You will, of course, think what you want and I really don't care, but I am not dissing it, I am evaluating it as compared to say, something really effective or something that accomplished something tangible. Didn't.

More an more of these seem to be just a thought someone pulled out of their ass than something really strategically planned to accomplish something. Having been around real organizers who actually accomplished things, perhaps my standards are a bit high.

Soon people will point to the march and say "It raised awareness". *snort*. That's a typical fall-back instead of recognizing that it really wan't anything more than a nice walk on a warm day. Which is too bad, because such efforts should always be much more.

[sabrina 1]

24. This was Global. Got an air show where hundreds of countries all coordinate

to show any interest in it?

This is just the start. The PEOPLE have gone Global. Corporations were Global decades ago, it took a while, but now the People are going Global also.

Over one hundred and twenty countries too part in this event, that is MILLIONS on the streets and millions more who could be there physically, supporting them.

[jtuck004]

32. Sure - air shows all over the world do that. Many have jets from different countries, etc.

So if you want to add up all the air shows everywhere, which seems to be the only way these so-called activists can generate impressive numbers, then the disparity is even more real with tens of millions attending air shows. Study the subject before picking your example.

But this is not about air shows. It's about the fact that people want to point to crowds and suggest more is happening than is. If they told the truth it would be that their ego is actually the most important thing to them, not results. Clearly, when their answers are not how to be more effective, but whining that their crowd-size is larger than that guy's over there, so they must have been worthy of notice. Nothing but crowd-envy by adolescents.

phooey. More excuses, no results, nice walk on an afternoon. I have been watching this shit since the first Earth Day, and hings are much worse than they were. Just like any worthless political party, they gather their friends around them to insulate them from the real world and pretend they are accomplishing something, puff up their self-importance, watch the earth continue to burn up and pretend they are something else.

Put results on the table. They can't? Again?

So it's just more hot air, in more ways than one. Now for more stupidity on Wall Street.

[Enthusiast]

5. Next time you hear a TV network brag about their excellent news coverage

ask them if they were in New York City for the climate change rally on September 21st.

If they didn't cover this one they are failures.

[americannightmare]

6. If you're not doing something about it at the individual level...

all this talking and marching is meaningless. There's an awful lot of people who expect the other guy to do something about it, while they still drive their polluting cars around and won't cut back on their red meat consumption. And that includes far too many people who went to these marches. I walked to the Portland march and saw a lot of signs saying "system change not climate change." System change, as it pertains to climate change, is nothing less than getting out of your car and boycotting the world's largest corporations - and going local.

[RoccoR5955]

7. Wait a day or two

I was there and took hundreds of pictures

[lovemydog]

10. Yes!

[Uncle Joe]

11. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, cal.

[Raffi Ella]

14. I love New Yorkers, wish I coulda been there.

[WillyT]

15. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!

[grandpamike1]

17. Demonstrations are great, but

Voting is much more important. If we don't get out the vote, nothing will ever change.

[Veilex]

18. Hey, look! A parade!

Whad'ya mean that's not a parade? Why else would bunches of people line the streets? A climate change march? No no no, that's clearly a parade... I'm sure it is... see... there's a balloon down there... I think... yeah, I'm sure that's a balloon... and everyone knows balloons means parades!

- said no one ever

[certainot]

20. fantastic but here's the problem- we need republicans to stop obstructing in lock step and

as far as they're concerned they're not going to go against this guy and the made to order constituencies he can motivate when really needed

the protests need to continue and expand and they need to include those very loud denial radio stations and the publicly funded schools they use for community cred and ad revenue

[RoccoR5955]

22. No, we need to vote out the RepubliCONs.

Make them extinct!

[certainot]

41. that too!

[RoccoR5955]

23. Wait...

I have almost 500 photos in the camera, just asking to get on the Internet.
It was a long day, so I will have to work on it tomorrow evening, after work, but they ALL will get out there!

[Tarheel_Dem]

26. I'm sorry, but until Americans think climate is a priority, all the parades are pretty useless.

A social gathering of the entire Green Party membership in NYC, does not an influential movement make. Climate change routinely rates in the lower single digits among the priorities of American voters. Sad, but true.

http://www.pollingreport.com/prioriti.htm

[OnlinePoker]

37. It's not just the U.S.

This is a UN poll that is currently running. Action on climate change is at the bottom of a list of social concerns globally.

http://data.myworld2015.org/

[Tarheel_Dem]

38. Which is why, from a question posed above, this can be categorized as a "fringe issue".

As long as we keep electing climate change deniers, nothing is going to change, especially when the American public & the world don't view it as an immediate concern. Hey, but these gatherings do offer a chance for Greens to get together and lump us all in the same category.

[rpannier]

27. they just will say

they don't represent the majority

[Tarheel_Dem]

39. Well, according to polling, they aren't. Climate activists continue to fail at placing this issue..

at the kitchen table, alongside the economy and jobs. I don't know if the entire world is populated, overwhelmingly, with climate change deniers, or if people just have more immediate concerns, but the message has not resonated, which is why lawmakers haven't felt any real need to anything of major consequence.

[Kablooie]

29. Until they make it about money instead of people nothing will change.

The powers that be care nothing about people, children, or the future of the human race.
The only thing that speaks to them is bigger profits tomorrow.
Make it about that in some way and things will change.

[toby jo]

30. This is great ~

& you folks on this thread whining about how it is not powerful enough for you, get off your lazy asses and go to one.

Or start one. It's called work.

[raouldukelives]

31. K&R! nt

[blkmusclmachine]

34. Big Oil MOCKS these demonstrators (as they sit in their mansions stroking their politician's heads).

BTW, Obama just opened the Eastern Seabord to the frackers.

Frack, baby, frack!!!



Washington DC is a racket

[Milliesmom]

35. Wake up before it's too late

http://www.technologywater.com/post/69995394390/un-report-says-small-scale-organic-farming-only-way-to

[SleeplessinSoCal]

36. The media and the police are distracting the nation

in the most damaging way they possibly can by lying and omission.

Maybe if all the protesters started looting, they'd get major coverage.

[MrMickeysMom]

42. K&R...