The Strange Case Of A Father Who Sued The Obama Administration To Keep His Daughters From Getting...

[Playinghardball]

Providing two college-age women with health insurance that covers birth control, according to an attorney for Missouri state Rep. Paul Joseph Wieland (R) and his wife Teresa, is the equivalent of giving your children free access to a “stocked unlocked liquor cabinet.” In case the judges hearing his client’s case did not find that analogy particularly compelling, he also compared birth control to pornography.

If the Wielands’ lawsuit succeeds, they will win the right to deny their three daughters — two of whom are adults — a health insurance policy that covers contraception. Wieland and his wife claim that they “cannot provide, fund or in any way be a participant in the provision of health care coverage for contraception, sterilization, abortions or abortifacient drugs and devices, such as Plan B, ella, and copper IUDs, or related education and counseling, without violating their sincerely-held religious beliefs.”

The Wieland family is insured through a health plan Missouri offers to its employees. They allege that Missouri expanded this plan in 2013 to include contraceptive care in order to comply with federal rules that require employer-provided plans to include this care. The gist of their argument is that they should be allowed to continue to remain on Missouri’s health plan for state employees, but that they should also be offered a special carve out so that their plan does not cover contraception and other reproductive services that Paul and Teresa Wieland find objectionable.

More here: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/09/11/3566209/the-strange-case-of-a-father-who-sued-the-obama-administration-to-keep-his-daughters-from-having-sex/

[sinkingfeeling]

1. They cannot speak for their adult children. Let's hope that those 2 daughters

have learned something in college besides their parents' 'religious beliefs'.

[KurtNYC]

21. it doesn't say the daughters are in college, only that they are "college age"

As adults the daughter have access to birth control regardless so the issue for this plaintiff is that it is now paid for by the state (via insurance). Hard to see how he is injured by that difference.

[TlalocW]

2. I look forward to hearing about his daughters getting knocked up

And moving back in with him (or not moving out).

TlalocW

[packman]

25. Said it before I could

my thoughts exactly. Wonder if he still has the key to their virginity belts? Talk about living in a bubble.

[B Calm]

42. It's not unusual for that to happen.

[louis-t]

3. Ah, because taking away birth control will ensure that his daughters

don't get pregnant.

edit: "bacon flavored"

[jwirr]

4. So this family does not want their insurance plan to have access to birth control. What about all

the other people insured under this program? Will they have to go without because 2 adult ladies may not agree with their parents? IMO this is about the numbers.

[Downwinder]

6. Why should men have to pay for policies that cover maternity benefits?

[jwirr]

7. Exactly. We could all find some reason we want out insurance company to do it our way. That

defeats the whole purpose of ACA which is to make healthcare affordable. GROUP purchasing.

[Downwinder]

9. I had a home owners policy for years and never collected for the

house burning down.

[Scuba]

8. I've never met a man who wasn't born.

[Glassunion]

12. Strangely, birth is also the leading cause of death.

Those who were never born with never die.

[eggplant]

35. It's true! Life is a 100% fatal sexually transmited disease. n/t

[riqster]

36. 100% mortality rate.

[Downwinder]

13. How many were financially liable for their birthing costs?

[Orsino]

5. Single-payer, whispered a voice on the breeze.

Cut down on this bullshit.

[jwirr]

10. Yes, said a returning echo.

[librechik]

11. single payer echo echo echo

[BrotherIvan]

14. If you don't like birth control

Don't use it. That fucking simple morans.

[Orsino]

18. But if you like judging others and controlling them...

...our current system is for you!

[Initech]

15. And these idiots are different from the Taliban how, exactly?

[xfundy]

16. Fundies aren't happy unless they've got their noses in other people's business.

[politicat]

24. You know, maybe if they were putting their nose near other people's "business"...

They would spend much less time putting their noses in other people's business.

[riqster]

37. I see...

[MohRokTah]

17. HE doesn't have standing.

He should be suing the state of Missouri.

[Vinca]

19. Just because something is available doesn't mean you have to partake.

I don't smoke or drink, but every time I go to the store . . . there it is. Available to me. It's a shame the guy feels he's reared children with no self control. Guess he should have done a better job at parenting.

[Volaris]

20. Fuck Them. They are on TAXPAYER FUNDED HEALTHCARE ...

If they don't like it then they can go play in the Free Market and go pay their own damned medical bills, out of their own pocket. IN FULL.
This is to say NOTHING of the fact of how much of an outright dick do u have to be to not want YOUR OWN FUCKING CHILDREN to have it even just a little tiny bit easier than you did???
If there's a descriptive profanity in existence that properly captures what kind of person this man and his wife are, please share because I honestly just can't think of it...

[Laxman]

22. And I Can't Support Policies....

that leave my fellow citizens uncared for and in danger of dieing from lack of proper health care or without access to appropriate health services, including women who need or want services that I, as a man, will never need access to. I find it morally reprehensible that anyone would look to meddle in the health care decisions of another human being. So when do I get to sue to insure that my sensibilities regarding health care and services are carried out by the government?

[A Simple Game]

23. Two things come to mind.

One, it must suck to believe you haven't raised your children right and don't have faith in their judgment.

Two, we should just let these people opt out of the coverage, but the parents and daughters must have to sign off. Oh, and one more thing, if they opt out of birth control, they also lose any and all maternity benefits for the mother and child. Hey parents, do you want to roll those dice?

[underpants]

26. More like "Strange Father of the Case"

[cheapdate]

27. In light of the Hobby Lobby decision I don't see how the court can deny the parents,

assuming the children are minors. If they're adults then I don't even see how the parents could sue on their behalf.

[Bartlet]

32. Doesn't matter either way

If the girls are adults the parents have no say in what their insurance covers. If the girls are minors the parents can restrict their minor children from accessing birth control but they can't sop the insurance company from paying for covering it.

This is just more ignorant tripe and racist crap from right wing intolerant religious zealots.

[cheapdate]

33. Until the conservative makeup of the SCOTUS

is changed, anything is possible. The 5-4 decisions of the Robert's court are as outrageous as they are numerous. If the GOP wins the presidency in 2016, the SCOTUS will likely remain conservative for a generation. That's reason enough for me to support whoever wins the Democratic nomination without question. Maybe it's not enough for everyone, but it's absolutely reason enough for me.

[gollygee]

39. It says that two of them are adults.

I don't get it.

[cheapdate]

40. I don't either. I thought you had to show direct harm to be a party to a lawsuit.

[Cartoonist]

28. Why doesn't he tell the other truth

He doesn't mind the state government health plan but doesn't want the federal extension because the president is black.

The other issue:
Are his daughters now covered under his plan because the ACA allows coverage until 26?

[matt819]

29. Fuck 'email

They don't want coverage that includes birth control, they can opt out. Get their own private insurance.

[steve2470]

30. love the poster LOL nt

[Bartlet]

31. “stocked unlocked liquor cabinet.”

Well only if you're completely stupid.

Suing to restrict the coverage for their adult daughters? If the adult daughters don't want to use birth control that's their choice, but parents don't get to make decisions for adult children in any case unless those adult children are incapacitated and can not make decisions for themselves. Since this is not the case these religious fanatics can shut the fuck up.

[Quantess]

34. Time for single payer!

[drm604]

38. The ACA is really bringing them out of the woodwork isn't it?

Could he be doing this because he's running for office?
http://www.wielandnow.com/

[FlaGranny]

41. Typical.

They raised their daughters so poorly that the daughters cannot be trusted to take care of their own health care and sex lives.

[baldguy]

43. What a wonderful father - assuming his daughters will become whores while away at school.

Some people don't deserve to be parents.

[CK_John]

44. What's so strange????? This is the logical follow on to the Hobby decision and

another way to chip away at the ACA of letting family members stay on parent policies until age 26yr.