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jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
6. Lack of V I D E O of the incident
Tue Sep 16, 2014, 03:20 AM
Sep 2014

There are no photographs which show a child being beaten, and those clinical photographs do not have the same impact on media-driven minds.

I realize you want to make some generalized indictment of humanity, but even the video of Rice from outside the elevator was previously available. It didn't become a shit storm until people reacted to the video of him actually hitting her.

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
13. They aren't getting run 24/7 on TV...
Tue Sep 16, 2014, 05:16 AM
Sep 2014

... and they are of the aftermath.

If you had video of Peterson inflicting those cuts and welts, especially if he was in a rage, then you would get a different response.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
2. because there's major support in this country for corporal discipline of children
Tue Sep 16, 2014, 03:14 AM
Sep 2014

by their parents/guardians. It is socially acceptable for parents to hit children for "disciplinary reasons". It is not socially acceptable to strike a partner.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
5. No shit. But there is a lot of defense of what he did and even support for it
Tue Sep 16, 2014, 03:18 AM
Sep 2014

I've read hundred, maybe thousands of comments about this on sites varying from Slate to ESPN.

It's as I said above and in my own thread re the different responses to Rice and Peterson that I posted yesterday: Parents striking children, even to the point of leaving obvious injuries, is more acceptable in our society than a man hitting a woman.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
12. uh. try again, skippy, old boy. I didn't ask a question.
Tue Sep 16, 2014, 03:37 AM
Sep 2014

questions have this little symbol (?) following them. I made a comment.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
14. Well,
Tue Sep 16, 2014, 06:28 AM
Sep 2014

That certainly came across as rude to a new person on the board. Very possible that skippy was trying to respond to the op and mistakenly responded to your comment. I do disagree with skippy's post, but I also agree with the need for civility.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
15. skippy's post is rude, flip and disrespectful about a serious matter
Tue Sep 16, 2014, 06:32 AM
Sep 2014

making fun of child abuse is repugnant and not at all civil.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
9. Because there are millions of people doing the same thing he did. Every single day.
Tue Sep 16, 2014, 03:28 AM
Sep 2014

We havent grown past the notion that children are individual beings, we still look at them as being property that belongs to us, we still look at them as something that we own, we must protect and we must teach and as you will find, people will become very resistant to an "outsider" telling them how they should or should not parent.

Most of this so-called outrage is fake, phony and comprised of people trying to "one up" each other. The reality is corporal punishment, abuse, whoever you want to call it is practiced in homes around the world and until we do away with this notion that children are property, it will continue to happen.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
17. Appealed for a jury trial set for November
Tue Sep 16, 2014, 07:23 AM
Sep 2014

Yes he was found guilty in a bench trial before a judge - something about the North Carolina legal system allows this so technically he isn't convicted and due process is still ongoing which the Panthers position during the summer was to wait for the process to play it before making a decision. Ron Rivera deactivated him after the Ray Rice video even after a game where he made critical plays. It is still a question whether he'll play again.

Another aspect he was franchise tagged. $13 million which goes against the Panthers already tight cap situation. They can't recoup money under the CBA if they released him before a conviction (which in NC he technically isn't convicted -- he isn't sentenced for example)

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