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joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 06:32 PM Sep 2014

Michael Moore's Full Quote

We were all overjoyed with President Obama's election. He's had to endure so much crap since. In spite of that he's done many good things. BUT there are still two yrs left -- and there are big disappointments amongst all of us. What would my fellow Obama voters like to see happen in his final two years? To be remembered a hundred years from now as the first African American president -- that's great, but it's not enough. And I know Mr. Obama agrees with that.

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Michael Moore's Full Quote (Original Post) joeybee12 Sep 2014 OP
Quick, who was the POTUS in 1914 and what is he most famous for? Rex Sep 2014 #1
Woodrow Wilson Blue_In_AK Sep 2014 #13
Woodrow Wilson Jack Rabbit Sep 2014 #14
I was going to say "effing up Versailles" redruddyred Sep 2014 #15
No, Wilson didn't eff up either or those Jack Rabbit Sep 2014 #23
Interesting you brought that up. I just did some research on it and found it's a private entity! Welibs Sep 2014 #24
Woodrow Wilson for cold-shouldering Ho Chi Minh... malthaussen Sep 2014 #32
Woodrow Wilson and refusing to allow W.E.B. Dubois into the White House. another_liberal Sep 2014 #16
Richard Nixon! zappaman Sep 2014 #19
I think women got the vote around that time IronLionZion Sep 2014 #27
Clearly the vile remarks of a bitter racist. arcane1 Sep 2014 #2
indeed noiretextatique Sep 2014 #34
That's it? frogmarch Sep 2014 #3
From his Facebook page. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #4
The only place I found where he was "quoted" joeybee12 Sep 2014 #5
Here ya go, buzzfeed. Rex Sep 2014 #7
Here is what he said during the interview. Rex Sep 2014 #6
I don't think that's so bad... joeybee12 Sep 2014 #8
It could have been worded a lot better imo, but I do not see the racism in that quote. Rex Sep 2014 #9
I don't either... joeybee12 Sep 2014 #10
i don't see it either noiretextatique Sep 2014 #35
I saw that. Rex Sep 2014 #36
Not horrible and not racist, but... George II Sep 2014 #21
Tiger Beat needs periodic outrage Doctor_J Sep 2014 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Sep 2014 #12
Seems he ignores the ACA but otherwise. . . rickyhall Sep 2014 #17
if we're still saddled with the ACA by then, we're really doomed Doctor_J Sep 2014 #26
The ACA will be single payer by then. joshcryer Sep 2014 #29
you're interfering with a 2 minute hate - there is no excuse for that -confusing an issue with facts Douglas Carpenter Sep 2014 #18
But if you look at the full quote, kiva Sep 2014 #20
Following MM over the years, I found AtomicKitten Sep 2014 #22
Moore & Olberman on Maher tonight. tooeyeten Sep 2014 #25
yeah that was fun navarth Sep 2014 #33
Aww shucks - you're taking the fun 840high Sep 2014 #28
Kick. Michael campaigned for Obama. Obama should listen to him, rather than the neo-con war machine. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #30
that is not the full quote. cali Sep 2014 #31
Context is everything n/t albino65 Sep 2014 #37

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
23. No, Wilson didn't eff up either or those
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 09:09 PM
Sep 2014

Clemenceau effed up Versailles by insisting on imposing a harsh peace on Germany. This led to the German economic crisis of the 1920s and made Hitler's rise more likely.

The League of Nations was effed up by the isolationist Republicans in Congress. The failure of the United States to join the League contributed to its ultimate failure, which in turn contributed to the outbreak of World War II.

 

Welibs

(188 posts)
24. Interesting you brought that up. I just did some research on it and found it's a private entity!
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 09:33 PM
Sep 2014

I live in Canada and as I was delving into the Governorship of the Bank of Canada, it occurred to me that the US might have a similar situation.

Pierre Trudeau was a Bilderberger, as all Prime Ministers but one have been for over 50 years. In 1974 Trudeau handed the Bank of Canada over to the
Bilderbergs and they control it today.

The Committee for Monetary and Economic Reform has had this in court since 2011 and Harper had it thrown out last year. However, a higher court reversed
that ruling and it will move forward although we don't have a date yet.

The Federal Reserve is also being controlled by the Bilderbergs. We are all in deep trouble if this isn't reversed.


malthaussen

(17,204 posts)
32. Woodrow Wilson for cold-shouldering Ho Chi Minh...
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 03:28 PM
Sep 2014

... when the latter wanted to discuss Vietnamese freedom under the 14 Points.

-- Mal

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
16. Woodrow Wilson and refusing to allow W.E.B. Dubois into the White House.
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 08:07 PM
Sep 2014

Or for caving-in to American bankers by agreeing to enter WWI and save their investments in all the loans they had given Britain and France to finance the war.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
34. indeed
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 04:13 PM
Sep 2014

he's more racist than all the rw assholes who call Obama Nazi and sub-human. clearly, moore is a vile racist

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
4. From his Facebook page.
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 06:38 PM
Sep 2014

Is this supposed to somehow refute what he said in his interview?

Disingenuous, at best.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
6. Here is what he said during the interview.
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 06:42 PM
Sep 2014

“When the history is written of this era, this is how you’ll be remembered: ‘He was the first black president.’ Okay, not a bad accomplishment, but that’s it. That’s it, Mr. Obama. A hundred years from now, ‘he was the first black American that got elected president.’ And that’s it. Eight years of your life and that’s what people are got to remember. Boy, I got a feeling, know you, that you’d probably wish you were remembered for a few other things, a few other things you could’ve done.”

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
8. I don't think that's so bad...
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 06:51 PM
Sep 2014

He's expressing frustration like most of us feel...it's not a popular sentiment here, though.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
9. It could have been worded a lot better imo, but I do not see the racism in that quote.
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 06:52 PM
Sep 2014

Funny, I get yelled at if I am outraged...get yelled at if I am not outraged. DU is a strange place at times.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
10. I don't either...
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 06:54 PM
Sep 2014

Off the top of his head, not happy, it's not a big deal, but some people take criticism of Obama very personally

George II

(67,782 posts)
21. Not horrible and not racist, but...
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 08:44 PM
Sep 2014

...in my opinion not correct either.

He'll be known for finding and killing Osama bin Laden
He'll be known for restoring respect for America around the world
He'll be known for getting affordable health care for all Americans
He'll be known for pulling us out of the second worst depression in our history
He'll be known for being President when the DJIA first reached 14,000 and then 15,000 and then 16,000 and then 17,000

and so many others. Only a pessimist would think he'd only be known for being the first black President.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
11. Tiger Beat needs periodic outrage
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 07:00 PM
Sep 2014

racial in nature, preferably.

Also, they hate liberals even more than Fox Nation does. Fox just calls everything they dislike "liberal". the DINOs actually realize what liberals are and what they stand for, and they hate that.

Response to Doctor_J (Reply #11)

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
17. Seems he ignores the ACA but otherwise. . .
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 08:22 PM
Sep 2014

Of course, myself, I quit getting disappointed after Clinton. I have no expectations, nothing ever goes like I think it ought to anyway. I read to much science fiction growing up, most of that stuff still hasn't happened except maybe Bradbury's video wall.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
26. if we're still saddled with the ACA by then, we're really doomed
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 09:35 PM
Sep 2014

He seriously might want to try for an actual DEMOCRATIC success before leaving office.

kiva

(4,373 posts)
20. But if you look at the full quote,
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 08:40 PM
Sep 2014

you can't accuse him of being a racist, and that would put a damper on the outrage.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
22. Following MM over the years, I found
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 08:51 PM
Sep 2014

his statement innocuous. I know where his heart is and I know his respectful criticism comes from love.

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