Didn't Nicole Simpson take her kids and leave her abuser?

[ehrnst]

Didn't that solve everything? Didn't that make her safe?

[polichick]

1. Her 911 call is heartbreaking.

[onecaliberal]

2. After several beatings, yes.

Again, how did the system work to help protect her against her abuser?

[ehrnst]

4. She did what critics of Janay Rice said she should do.

And eventually she got killed, because OJ wasn't held accountable for the violence.

[onecaliberal]

5. I'm not sure if you've ever been

In a position to have someone much stronger than you beat you bloody. Surely you can't be suggesting that Janae stay with her abuser because the system failed to protect Nicole Brown?

[LittleBlue]

6. Yeah I don't get it

No one is saying that leaving an abuser is a foolproof method. It is preferable to staying with an abusive partner, especially when a child is involved.

It seems like the OP's argument could be interpreted another way, like women should stay for fear of ending up like Nicole Brown. Probably not what OP intended.

[onecaliberal]

7. Okay I understand your point.

The problem is the system and society in general that thinks women need to be completely controlled. That we are incapable of making our own decisions. That it's okay to " slap us around " to keep us in line.

[ehrnst]

8. The point is that until we hold men accountable, even leaving won't always work.

I was refuting the idea that it was all in her hands to prevent harm to herself and her child, that if she left, then all would have been solved.

If OJ had been required to spend time in jail or attend anger management classes and check in with a case worker when he pled "no contest" to the charge of assault, then there might have been a chance for Nicole.

And Janay and her daughter.

[onecaliberal]

10. My step father was made to attend

Anger management classes as part of his punishment, during this time he assaulted my mother and nearly beat her to death. So your platitudes are nice, there is no single solution that will work for everyone. It's not that simple.

[ehrnst]

11. I'm not saying it is simple. The people that say leaving him will end it are. (nt)

[ehrnst]

9. I think the irony of my post got lost.

I was referencing Nicole, because the system didn't protect her. Janay could do what people keep saying she should do, BUT, until we hold men accountable for their violence, and come down on them swiftly, Janay could still end up like Nicole.

It's not up do Janay to solve this - she, like Nicole, can't do it alone.

[MineralMan]

3. But what does that have to do with the NFL?

Oh, wait...