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grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 09:58 PM Sep 2014

Sen. Manchin (D): “We have proven.. that people we have armed.. have turned those arms against us"

Senator Joe Manchin (D., W.Va.) said he will not support a key part of President Obama’s strategy for taking on the Islamic State.

I have a problem with one part, and one part mainly, and that is paying for training and arming Syrian rebels that we’re not sure are our friends,” he said on MSNBC on Thursday. “Right now, I can’t do that — I cannot support arming the rebels who we have not been able to identify.”​

For example, it remains unclear if the rebels sent American journalist Steven Sotloff to his death by capturing him and selling him to the Islamic State, where he was beheaded earlier this month, Manchin explained.

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“We have proven, for the last twelve years, that people we have trained, people we have clothed, people we have fed, people we have armed turn those arms against us,” he said.


http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/387739/manchin-i-will-not-be-voting-arm-syrian-rebels-andrew-johnson
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Sen. Manchin (D): “We have proven.. that people we have armed.. have turned those arms against us" (Original Post) grahamhgreen Sep 2014 OP
Well things are going to get interesting! yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #1
Manchin is speaking the truth SummerSnow Sep 2014 #2
Happens every time. n/t jaysunb Sep 2014 #3
about fucking TIME marym625 Sep 2014 #4
He's 100% correct. Maven Sep 2014 #5
But it's going to be different this time neverforget Sep 2014 #6
Sunnis need an alternative to ISIS jeff47 Sep 2014 #7
Like al-Qaeda? grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #14
al Qaeda became ISIS in this area. jeff47 Sep 2014 #15
Am I the only one that reads that quote... Chan790 Sep 2014 #8
call me cynical but isn't he on Team Coal vs. Team Oil? elehhhhna Sep 2014 #10
Yes, he is. n/t Chan790 Sep 2014 #11
We can avoid that problem by arming BOTH sides Doctor_J Sep 2014 #9
Walk away.... they will blow themselves to hell. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #12
"We have proven.. that people we have armed.. have turned those arms against us." blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #13

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
7. Sunnis need an alternative to ISIS
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 10:11 PM
Sep 2014

If Sunnis are given the choice between ISIS and domination by the Shiites, they're going to pick ISIS. That's how ISIS rolled over Western Iraq so easily.

The Sunnis need an alternative to ISIS that isn't as brutal. Options are to either try to create one from scratch (Boy that worked so great in Afghanistan and Iraq!!) or build up one of the other groups. No alternative and ISIS stays in place.

Also, the administration has flatly denied that the rebels sold Sotloff. Sure, they could be wrong. But so could Sotloff's family. I'm guessing the US government has better sources than the Sotloffs.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
15. al Qaeda became ISIS in this area.
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 09:09 AM
Sep 2014

We can either try to build a group from scratch, which got us people like Karzai, or we can try to help a group that already exists.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
8. Am I the only one that reads that quote...
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 10:16 PM
Sep 2014

and sees great irony in Manchin's opposition to real gun control efforts?

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
13. "We have proven.. that people we have armed.. have turned those arms against us."
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 12:56 AM
Sep 2014

So, what Corporations are pulling Obama's strings to get him to jump start another war for profit???


War = Death = Profit

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