It’s 9/11. Remember who attacked us. And who let it happen. And who made money from the attacks.

[riqster]

http://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com/2014/09/11/its-911-remember-who-attacked-us-and-who-let-it-happen-and-who-made-money-from-the-attacks/

Source info at the link? Yup.

Today is September 11th, and in order to truly honor the memory of those who died at the hands of those terrorist goat-f***ers in Al-Quaida, this writer will forego the usual platitudes, and instead point a big finger at the “Republicans” who sat back and let it happen; and then used those thousands of deaths to further their political ends whilst padding their offshore bank accounts. Think that is inappropriate, nasty, partisan, or lese-majeste? Gentle Reader, you ain’t heard nothing yet.

The 9/11 Commission report said that the Bushistas ignored the threat until after the attacks had occurred. And then, of course, they used the deaths of our fellow citizens to launch a phony war in Iraq and make themselves multi- millionaires. It’s all public record, click the links if you don’t believe it.

In stark contrast to the incompetence, malfeasance, and obfuscation of the “Republicans” stands President Obama. People told him about an imminent terrorist threat, and he quickly got started kicking their mass-murdering asses. And he told the country exactly what he was gonna do: bomb, shoot, and generally kill all of the Shaitan-worshipping thugs in ISIS. That, friends, is how you respond to an attack. Openly, firmly, and honestly.

There are still fools around the world who think the Prexy is weak, indecisive, or naive. To those idiots, we present four words:
Osama
Bin
Laden’s
Dead.
He died because Obama had the smarts and the testicular fortitude to pursue the mutt and kill his ass. The Bushies didn’t care enough to catch the motherf***er, which helped Al-Quaida grow stronger and prosper by showing the world that America would not punish those who attack us. But the Dems in the White House DID care, justice WAS rendered, and today Al-Quaida is a shattered remnant of the jihadi collossus it once was. Punishing criminals works a lot better than rewarding them.

We can best honor the victims of crimes by rendering justice on the criminals, and preventing future crimes. To the first point, not all of the criminals of 9/11 have been brought to justice yet, but Obama has made a good start. And to the second, he is doing things differently than his predecessor, thus helping to prevent a recurrence of 9/11.

Not to say that Obama’s actions are without risk. They carry enormous potential for blowback and unintended consequences. But doing nothing failed in 2001, and failed earlier this year as well. Terrorists will commit acts of terror whether men of good will do nothing, or do something. It’s what terrorists do. At least killing them, taking their money, and destroying their assets slows them down. (Again, see what has happened to Al-Quaida since PBO took office.)

The Bushies have the blood of innocents on their hands and in their wallets. Never forget, Gentle Reader. Because if we forget, it’ll happen again. Good luck to President Obama and all the brave people who fight for us every day. And bad cess to those who attack us, abandon us, and use tragedy to manipulate us.

[kentuck]

1. If Democrats had been in charge...

...we would still hear about how weak the Democrats are on national defense. Republicans would have destroyed the Democratic Party. There would not have been a President Obama.

[riqster]

2. Shrug. There would have been no Iraq war, and a lot of other things would have been different.

[YoungDemCA]

4. Well, both parties agreed that Saddam was horrible

But I can't see President Gore invading Iraq on such blatantly false pretenses, lying about his administration's motives, handling the aftermath of the invasion so incompetently and corruptly, and not even bothering to get approval and help from the international community (other than the "Coalition of the Willing." )

[Iliyah]

33. Huh, all the people who died may still be alive.

[riqster]

38. Agreed. A less unstable ME, no crash in the USA, no Patriot Act...

Had Gore been allowed to serve in the office he earned, almost everything would be different today.

[BlueCaliDem]

6. I don't know if that's necessarily true, kentuck. With a president Gore who

would carry on President Clinton's anti-terrorism policy, I don't know if 9/11 would have happened. I'm certain that he'd keep the people in place in order to smoothly continue with President Clinton's anti-terrorism work and we wouldn't have the warmongering chickenhawks in positions of power who wanted to invade Iraq from the get-go ... however, Lieberman would have been VP and god only knows what he would have pushed for.

That said, I would rather not have a President Obama if it meant not having 9/11/2001 happen, thousands of Americans dead, 100's of thousands of Iraqis dead, a terrorized American electorate, ISIS, a $16 trillion dollar Federal deficit because of Bush tax cuts to the rich, 10% unemployment (in October 2009 before the stimulus kicked in), and the housing bubble. We could still have a Senator Barack Obama who can then run after a President Al Gore's two terms, right? If only, if only, if only...

[kentuck]

7. True.

But if it had happened during a Democratic Administration, the Repubs would have cut no slack. I think the Democrats should put the blame on Bush and Cheney for letting 9/11 happen. They escaped any and all responsibility.

[riqster]

9. And put them on trial.

[Autumn]

17. Gore and Clinton were well on top of terrorism. 9 11 would not have happened

had Gore been in the White House.

[riqster]

21. Dingdingding! We have a winner!

[Iliyah]

34. Ditto

[zentrum]

41. If Democrats had been in charge...

There would not have been a 9/11. Because Gore with his different team would have read the August memo and prevented the attack. Also, Richard Wright would have had his ear from day one and prevention would have been in place long before August.

No attack, no phony war, no Bush, no Rumsfield, no Cheney, no Condi Rice "selling the product", no red terror alerts.
And Obama very likely could still have been elected.

Even with your analysis, one Obama is not worth the Iraq war and this aftermath which will never go away.

[riqster]

44. Good analysis.

[librechik]

3. As long as America is strong due to it's wealth, weapons and exploitive control of other nations

rather than its global citizenship and enlightened, humanistic policies, we will always be plagued by heroes trying to stop us strangling society with empire. .

[JNelson6563]

5. I will never cease to be amazed that after 9/11

Condi Rice, the greatest failure of a national security advisor in the history of mankind, was promotedto SOS.
WTF.

Julie

[riqster]

15. An illegitimate man at 1600 PA Ave doing incompetent things.

[cali]

8. Osama bin laden succeeded beyond his wildest dreams

he goaded us into spending trillions and completely destabilizing the region, not to mention our abridgement of rights.

[global1]

10. I Got Sucked Into Watching MSNBC Re-Playing Of The Events Of The Day.......

Compelling!!! But I didn't believe it then and I still don't believe it now as I re-watch it. Too many coincidences that seem innocuous at first but when put together have always made me suspicious of the events of that day. Many resources that should have been around were out of place - conveniently. The time span between the first plane hitting the towers and the second plane. The plane hitting the Pentagon a long time after the planes hit the towers - yet they didn't seem prepared to take any action. The shuttling out of the country of Saudi's tied to Bin Laden when all other flights were grounded. The aftermath - with the passing of the Patriot Act - that seemed to be poised and ready to pass through a Congress that most in Congress didn't even read. The quick judgement by the Administration to go after Saddam Hussain and Iraq. And look where this has all brought us to today.

Is it a coincidence that the day before the anniversary of 9/11 - we had our President address the country about basically a continuation of the results of the incompetence of BushCo. Fear back then about al quaida and fear today about ISIS/ISIL. What seemed to be timed videos of beheadings of American journalists that contributed to more fear in the minds of the American People and contributed to change their mindset about more war, destruction, loss of lives and treasure. More defense spending coming up folks. A deadlocked/obstructing Congress that is not allowing anything to help us climb out of this aftermath of the destruction that BushCo brought onto this country. The main stream corporate media that seems to be accomplices in sabotaging this President. And a critical election coming up in less than 2 months that can further decimate this nation based on control of Congress.

Scary stuff people - scary stuff.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

11. 9/11 was a crime perpetrated by Dick Cheney & The Neocons. nt

[riqster]

13. I'd say they aided and abetted.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

16. Oh, they aided and abetted alright. They made it possible, along with their buddy

King Abdullah.

[zappaman]

55. So are you saying Bush and Dick collaborated with King Abdullah

to bring down the WTC and attack the Pentagon, then covered it up to blame it on Al Queda?

[bullwinkle428]

12. The most disgusting ignored element is how deeply the Saudis were involved

in the planning and execution of it all.

"Ever since ISIS/ISIL became the Hitlers du jour, apologists for, and former employees of, the late Avignon Presidency have been loud and proud in their praise for something that C-Plus Augustus said back in 2007 as regards Iraq, and they have been comparing that unfavorably to the president's response to the current crisis, in a desperate attempt to legitimize their support for, and their participation in, the large, chewy cluster of fk that C-Plus Augustus made of everything he touched. Chief among this sad collection of human political flotsam is curiously employed torture-porn enthusiast Marc Thiessen, to whom Weigel put paid yesterday, and with a nice shout-out to the blog, too. As Weigel points out, Thiessen is criticizing the current president for living up to an agreement negotiated by Thiessen's old boss. But there's more out there, too, about how badly the late Avignon Presidency fell down on the job of protecting the country.

"There's nothing in it about national security," Walter Jones, a Republican congressman from North Carolina who has read the missing pages, contends. "It's about the Bush Administration and its relationship with the Saudis." Stephen Lynch, a Massachusetts Democrat, told me that the document is "stunning in its clarity," and that it offers direct evidence of complicity on the part of certain Saudi individuals and entities in Al Qaeda's attack on America. "Those twenty-eight pages tell a story that has been completely removed from the 9/11 Report," Lynch maintains. Another congressman who has read the document said that the evidence of Saudi government support for the 9/11 hijacking is "very disturbing," and that "the real question is whether it was sanctioned at the royal-family level or beneath that, and whether these leads were followed through." Now, in a rare example of bipartisanship, Jones and Lynch have co-sponsored a resolution requesting that the Obama Administration declassify the pages.

I have my differences with Steve Lynch on a number of issues, and Walter Jones is the freedom fries guy, and he's covered almost the entire ideological waterfront on the issues involved since those days, but there is absolutely no reason to disbelieve their reports of what those 28 pages say. And the two of them have proposed something that everyone in Congress should support. I mentioned the other day that I have grown a little impatient with the House of Saud which, it seems, considers the U.S. military to be its mall cops. Any further military aid to that repressive little theocracy now should depend on two non-negotiable demands: 1) that the Saudis use their own military primarily to protect their own interests, and 2) that anyone -- a-n-y-o-n-e -- who can be demonstrated to have been complicit in assessorial conduct involving the 9/11 attacks be handed over for prosecution to the United States Attorney for southern New York. To wit:

In 2005, the government of Saudi Arabia was dismissed from the suit on the ground of sovereign immunity, but in July the U.S. Supreme Court reinstated the Kingdom as a defendant. The plaintiffs believe that the withheld twenty-eight pages will support their allegation that the 9/11 hijackers received direct assistance from Saudi government officials in the United States.

"

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/The_28_Pages

[riqster]

14. Bush held hands with them.

[nationalize the fed]

37. even more incredible detail

this guy worked for years on the Saudi connection. He's not here anymore, he was found with a bullet in his head, a "suicide" -at least that's the official story. His next book is nowhere to be found. He was a professional pilot, and knew people involved in 911. RIP Phil, we'll carry on.

There are two different worlds in aviation — the general single-engine airplane world with a service ceiling of 10,000 feet and a top speed of around 200 miles per hour, and the commercial swept-wing jetliner world at 40,000 feet and Mach numbers for speed calculations. Little within that first world prepares the pilot for the second, high-altitude world.
So began my search for Middle Eastern operators of Boeing airliners. Because the hijackers were mostly Saudi Arabian, the firm of Dallah Avco, a Saudi operator of multiple private Boeing airliners, soon stood out as a focal point. To my amazement, I immediately discovered that Congressional investigators had already linked Dallah Avco with the actual hijackers. Omar Bayoumi, a Dallah employee and operative within the Saudi Ministry of Aviation, had provided housing and basic support for three hijackers: Nawaf al-Hazmi, Khalid al-Mihdhar and the pilot/hijacker of American 77, Hani Hanjour.

FBI evidence of the cell would confirm that the hijacking team of American 77 had formed and operated separately with direct financial support from top-level members of the Saudi government, bitter enemies of al Qaeda. The picture was beginning to clear.

From this point in the research, the guilt needle began pointing steadily toward Saudi Arabia, in part because 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis. With every new piece of evidence, that needle does not fluctuate. As the focus narrowed on San Diego, the footprints of a large Saudi contingent began to appear. Congressional investigators had found, within buried FBI files, evidence that United States Senators would later call “undeniable” that top Saudi officials had known that terrorists were entering the U.S. beginning in 2000 in preparation for some sort of attack. These same officials are among those who work with American oil companies and regulate the flow of crude oil to the United States, the same Saudi officials that regulate the price that has gone from $30 per barrel to over $140 post 911...

...SAUDI GOVERNMENT CONNECTION TO 9/11 HIJACKERS...

...Prince Turki and Prince Bandar have more connections to Arabic-speaking Boeing flight instructors than anyone else in the world. The means and opportunity to slip the hijackers into Pinal Airpark or other facilities for training were theirs. The motive was a world-changing event. The Saudis would benefit greatly not only from the targeting of al-Qaeda but from an American invasion of Iraq, one that they had begged for after the first Gulf War. Dick Cheney would guarantee Prince Bandar that America was going to invade Iraq months before anyone informed the United States Congress...>

http://thebigbamboozle.tumblr.com/

He's got some interviews on Youtube- search bigbamboozle

[Zorra]

18. K&R

[pauldp]

19. A few pertinent pics

The Executive Director of the 911 Commission and the star witness for the Bush Administration



No conflict of interest here. Move along.

[riqster]

23. It's surprising to me that the commission said anything about the Bushies.

There were a number of their cronies in the commission and on its staff.

[Rex]

28. They could only whitewash the report so much.

They brought in an old whitewashing pro...Lee Hamilton that made SURE nobody high up got prosecuted for 9/11 and that the report would be delayed for years and years of being finished.

9/11 has the BFEE's fingerprints all over it. Despite pro wash.

[riqster]

50. Yep. Shit still stinks, no matter how much polish you put on a turd.

[Initech]

20. While New York burned, Bush read "My Pet Goat" to school children.

[riqster]

22. And kept going.

[Initech]

24. I really wonder if we had elected Al Gore if the Twin Towers would still be standing.

[riqster]

25. Number A: we did. Never mind the unconstitutional act of the Supremes.

Letter 2: I think that had he been allowed to take office, the attacks would have been thwarted or at least their effects minimized.

[Ichingcarpenter]

26. Who made money on 911? Try the push and call options right before 911

Financial transactions in the days before the attack suggest that certain individuals used foreknowledge of the attack to reap huge profits. 1 The evidence of insider trading includes:

Huge surges in purchases of put options on stocks of the two airlines used in the attack -- United Airlines and American Airlines

Surges in purchases of put options on stocks of reinsurance companies expected to pay out billions to cover losses from the attack -- Munich Re and the AXA Group

Surges in purchases of put options on stocks of financial services companies hurt by the attack -- Merrill Lynch & Co., and Morgan Stanley and Bank of America
Huge surge in purchases of call options of stock of a weapons manufacturer expected to gain from the attack -- Raytheon
Huge surges in purchases of 5-Year US Treasury Notes........ much much more;

http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/stockputs.html


SEC: Government Destroyed Documents Regarding Pre-9/11 Put Options

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/06/sec-government-destroyed-documents-regarding-pre-911-put-options.html

Anyway watch the money as always on this newest war

[riqster]

36. Interesting. Thanks for the links.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

27. Saving. Kicking. Reccing.

[riqster]

30. Thanking.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

32. :)

I shall post to FB later, from your blog page.

[riqster]

35. Thanks again.

[freebrew]

29. Let's also not forget...

which party and who it was that empowered Osama bin Laden.

They are still here, still funding the 'terrorists'.

Oh, and still profiting from it.

[riqster]

31. Yep. And idiots across the country still vote for them.

[Iliyah]

39. Patriot Act - NSA

Pres Cheney made sure of that and probably still using it.

[riqster]

40. No doubt. And other scams ad infinitum.

[MisterP]

42. presumably OBL died so we could *take over* AQ (and then it ran away from us...again)

[woo me with science]

43. War is Peace! This is the second thread attempting this ludicrous talking point.

2+2=5

Boy, was Orwell on the mark.


That's some jaw-droppingly audacious doublespeak there, to argue that a clear continuation of the PNAC/neocon agenda equals holding ground against the PNAC.

Trashing this thread, too, and encourage others to do the same. We need reality, not attempts to justify this wholly predictable and long-planned PNAC bombing in Syria.


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______________________________________________________________

There's a reason neolibs sound so much like neocons. There's a reason it feels so familiar that they are following that familiar PNAC plan:

When the DLC connections to the Koch Bros. became well known, they just rebranded the infiltration
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4165556

When you hear "Third Way", think INVESTMENT BANKERS
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024127432

GOP Donors and K Street Fuel Third Way’s Advice for the Democratic Party
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101680116

The Rightwing Koch Brothers fund the DLC
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x498414

Same companies behind the GOP are behind the DLC
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1481121

[riqster]

45. Bollocks. I am saying that inaction served us badly in the past.

Despite the woo, ODS, and general "my pony doesn't poop sparkly butterflies" rot one encounters on the Internets, Obama is not Bush, his actions are not equivalent to Bush's, and someone in touch with reality would know that.

Don't let your irrational hatred of the Prexy blind you to the crimes of his predecessor.

[SomethingFishy]

54. Which inaction was that? The invasion of Iraq?

The invasion of Afghanistan? The drone programs in Pakistan and Syria? The decade of the War On Terror?

Who's not in touch with reality here?

[riqster]

58. Say not so, O fishy one.

As stated in the OP, it was Bush's inaction that enabled 9/11.

That did not work well for us, now did it?

That, my aqueous ami, IS reality.

[colsohlibgal]

46. The Real Truth

I'm not sure what really went down but I'm reasonably sure that the official narrative isn't it.

There is so much. Just one thing is the shockingly low passenger numbers on these planes. I've flown out of these places during the week and they are always packed or nearly packed. Of course there is more, like dimwits who weren't great on little Cessnas being able to successfully pilot enormous commercial planes.

Whatever, it was a present for Dubya and his minions.

[riqster]

47. Oh yeah. There was a lot hidden.

Since there's no proof that Dubya and Co. pulled the trigger, I stick with the "allowed it to happen and used it for their own malevolent purposes" approach. Because that much can be proven.

But buckeye to buckeye, I agree, there's a lot of shit got swept under that rug.

[zappaman]

56. Yes, it must have been a conspiracy cuz "the shockingly low passenger numbers on these planes"

Congrats!
You've broke the case!
Since the plane was not full that means...um....uh....CONSPIRACY!

Oh, and the terrorists pilots were certified to fly an airliner.
Not sure how that fits into your little scenario.

[napkinz]

48. yes, let's remember ...

[riqster]

49. Very good collection!

The one with Saddam's statue is bloody perfect.

[napkinz]

51. and Republicans want an apology ... talk about chutzpah

[riqster]

52. Well, yes. Obama is making them look even worse.

Poor widdle ewephants.

[napkinz]

53. more ...

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[napkinz]

57. ...