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kpete

(71,997 posts)
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 11:56 AM Sep 2014

Bill Maher: If Hillary gets the 2016 nomination, I’ll vote for Rand Paul

Comic and Real Time host Bill Maher said that his support of the Democratic Party does not extend to highly favored 2016 Democratic nominee former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

In fact, Maher told The Hill’s Judy Kurtz in an interview published on Wednesday that he is more intrigued by Libertarian Republican Sen. Rand Paul (KY), saying, “Rand Paul is an interesting candidate to me. Rand Paul could possibly get my vote.”

“As I always used to say about his father, I love half of him,” Maher went on. “I love the half of him that has the guts to say we should end the American empire, pull the troops home, stop getting involved in every foreign entanglement…He’s way less of a hawk than Hillary, and that appeals to me a lot because I’m not crazy about how warlike she is.”

Talking Points Memo noted that Maher donated a million dollar to President Barack Obama’s campaign in 2012, but Maher said he won’t be donating to Clinton.

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These days, Maher said, he finds himself sympathizing more with the values espoused by Libertarianism, but not to extremes.


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/10/bill-maher-if-hillary-gets-the-2016-nomination-ill-vote-for-rand-paul/


Here is a clue Bill:

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Bill Maher: If Hillary gets the 2016 nomination, I’ll vote for Rand Paul (Original Post) kpete Sep 2014 OP
Maher never learns. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #1
I think he will come around. He has moments of crazy (or lucidity, not sure which). PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #4
In 2000, Maher supported Nader over Al Gore. John1956PA Sep 2014 #2
He needs to support a real Democrat in the Primary. n/t factsarenotfair Sep 2014 #3
Paul won't be the GOP nominee n2doc Sep 2014 #5
Ted Cruz will be the nomination? Isn't he Canadian? Initech Sep 2014 #16
Cruz will divide the t-bag vote with Paul n2doc Sep 2014 #18
If Republicans run Cruz, then couldn't Democrats run Jennifer Granholm?... cascadiance Sep 2014 #25
Ha ha ha ha!!!! MADem Sep 2014 #27
Though I guess the tea partiers weren't wanting to make sure that McCain was born on a military base cascadiance Sep 2014 #40
Except that now Paul supports the war on ISIS. That blows that rationale out of the water stevenleser Sep 2014 #6
Yep. Republicans (of all stripes) campaign as a moderate but rule as a RWer. BlueCaliDem Sep 2014 #11
Correct. Unlike his dad, Rand is a 100% phony. He flips to neocon positions in a hearbeat. Faryn Balyncd Sep 2014 #23
I think many are tired of the corporate candidates being pushed on us NorthCarolina Sep 2014 #7
Maher is a stopped asshole who shits right twice a day. Orrex Sep 2014 #8
You are SO right. mimi85 Sep 2014 #22
I see the same thing Cartoonist Sep 2014 #9
K&R for the excellent cartoon. appal_jack Sep 2014 #10
To my reading, Maher is contemplating voting for Rand Paul. AtomicKitten Sep 2014 #12
Bill Maher notwithstanding, this attitude will likely become more apparent in the near future. progressoid Sep 2014 #13
Another stupid statement by Bill. Scuba Sep 2014 #14
Money fucks with your soul. Orsino Sep 2014 #15
So does doing Ann Coulter. nt mimi85 Sep 2014 #24
Oh please.. the guy gave a million dollars to Obama... SomethingFishy Sep 2014 #34
According to the OP, Maher's done a bit of soul-searching since 2012. Orsino Sep 2014 #48
Maher has always been a sexist, homophobic asshole... joeybee12 Sep 2014 #17
+1000 eom wryter2000 Sep 2014 #33
Bill Maher: Anti-Science Knuckle Dragger? HuckleB Sep 2014 #19
More on Maher's anti-vaxer routines. HuckleB Sep 2014 #20
So the person who's said his views are closer to Libertarian than anything else pnwmom Sep 2014 #21
This is a guy with an awkward personal life, to put it kindly. MADem Sep 2014 #26
Yep, a Hillary presidency will separate the sexists from the racists. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #28
No question about it. In fact I suspect Hillary will get even more hateful barbs thrown at her still_one Sep 2014 #31
At least she won't be hounded over her birth certificate. eom MohRokTah Sep 2014 #32
that is true, but never put anything past the tea baggers still_one Sep 2014 #38
They'll just hound her over her date of birth. MADem Sep 2014 #47
But many of us would rather someone like Elizabeth Warren have to put up with the sexism! cascadiance Sep 2014 #35
Warren will put the focus squarely on the working class and fairness for all. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #39
who cares. maher is just a stupid entertainer who thinks more highly of himself than he is worth still_one Sep 2014 #29
Kinda like voting for the worst of two choices boomer55 Sep 2014 #30
Hey Bill lay off the brown stuff Blue Owl Sep 2014 #36
After Teachout's performance in NY, I don't think 2016 is set in stone. conservaphobe Sep 2014 #37
wrong wrong wrong MFM008 Sep 2014 #41
I would never vote for Rand Paul Blue_In_AK Sep 2014 #42
Wow. What a traitor. Quantess Sep 2014 #43
Inaccurate TSIAS Sep 2014 #44
Not that I would, I'd choose his father before I go for Rand. Xyzse Sep 2014 #45
He can vote for whomever he likes. Marr Sep 2014 #46

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
5. Paul won't be the GOP nominee
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 12:06 PM
Sep 2014

I feel fairly confident of this. He is just a bit too undependable on the big issues for the GOP establishment to support him. The T-baggers will be split with Cruz.

Initech

(100,085 posts)
16. Ted Cruz will be the nomination? Isn't he Canadian?
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 12:54 PM
Sep 2014

If the republicans can play that stupid birther angle, there's no way Ted Cruz would get the nomination. Paul is too extremist, divisive, and drinks from the Koch Kool Aid. My money is on Paul Ryan (ugh) or Chris Christie (double ugh).

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
18. Cruz will divide the t-bag vote with Paul
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 12:56 PM
Sep 2014

It will be someone other than Cruz or Paul. Still a ways to go before the power brokers figure out who will get the nomination on that side.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
25. If Republicans run Cruz, then couldn't Democrats run Jennifer Granholm?...
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 02:20 PM
Sep 2014

and make it a battle of Canadians to run our government?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
27. Ha ha ha ha!!!!
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 02:37 PM
Sep 2014

Obama can retroactively grant her parents US citizenship to seal the deal!

I think she's great.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
40. Though I guess the tea partiers weren't wanting to make sure that McCain was born on a military base
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 04:02 PM
Sep 2014

... in "U.S. territory" in Panama, which it isn't really clear he was or was born in another part of Panama. Some discrepancies in his birth certificate too. Though the right of course doesn't care about that.

Might be harder to ignore Cruz's Canadian background though if they went after Granholm's!

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
6. Except that now Paul supports the war on ISIS. That blows that rationale out of the water
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 12:08 PM
Sep 2014

Anyone thinking Paul supports anything remotely progressive is in for a rude shock if he ever becomes President. He will throw any of those positions and the people in favor of them under the bus in half a heartbeat.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
11. Yep. Republicans (of all stripes) campaign as a moderate but rule as a RWer.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 12:25 PM
Sep 2014

When will people like Maher learn you can't trust a Republican on what they say.

Someone needs to tell Maher about Rand Paul's change of heart regarding war.

Faryn Balyncd

(5,125 posts)
23. Correct. Unlike his dad, Rand is a 100% phony. He flips to neocon positions in a hearbeat.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 02:13 PM
Sep 2014


His dad, flawed as he is, nevertheless had principles, and several of those principles made him unacceptable to the great majority of Republicans as a national candidate (or in any capacity that would actually influence actual policy), who nevertheless tolerated his presence in the party solely for the cynical purpose of attracting libertarian votes for their neo-"conservative", authoritarian, anti-civil liberties, and constitution abusing "coalition".

Rand, on the other hand, has on multiple occasions demonstrated that his anti-empire rhetoric is pure window dressing.











 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
7. I think many are tired of the corporate candidates being pushed on us
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 12:08 PM
Sep 2014

as if we have some "choice", when in reality our only allowed choices are Wall St. candidate #1(D), or Wall St. Candidate #2(R). While I am no fan of Ron Paul and would not vote for him, neither will I vote for Hillary. If Bernie Sanders does not run, then I likely will cast a write vote for him. I'm tired of the DLC "who else you gonna vote for" bullshit, and I will be strictly voting my principles from here on out. If the Dems want my vote, then they can try fielding candidates that reflect Democratic principles, and are not simply agents of the 1% with a false Liberal face implanted by a complicit media.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
8. Maher is a stopped asshole who shits right twice a day.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 12:11 PM
Sep 2014

But most of the time he's just an asshole.

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
22. You are SO right.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 02:10 PM
Sep 2014

I really think that one night with Ann Coulter scrambled his brain. Vote for Paul? He'd have to write him in since he won't get the nomination. And Paul is anti-choice, a sexist, a racist, a homophobe among other things. Oh, he is for legalizing drugs. Great reason to vote for someone. What about that million dollar check Bill, that you wouldn't stop reminding your audience of your largesse? Some of Paul traits I know Maher has - you can figure out which ones on your own if you ever watch the show. It's REALLY annoying when he has to throw in that Obama is black in every fucking show. Bitter little man.

Cartoonist

(7,319 posts)
9. I see the same thing
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 12:15 PM
Sep 2014

My peace friends love the Paulies for their anti-war stance. Completely ignoring that their positions on EVERYTHING else are WRONG. Okay, except marijuana. The real truth about their anti-warism has nothing to do with humanitarian ideals. They just don't want to pay for them. As Wimpy used to say, "let's you and him fight." Besides, hasn't Rand now gone monger?

 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
10. K&R for the excellent cartoon.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 12:17 PM
Sep 2014

The Slowpoke cartoon is spot-on regarding Rand Paul's ridiculous notions of freedom. But Hillary does not even give freedom lip-service. How is that better?

Hopefully, another Democratic candidate fields a good primary campaign, and we have someone who respects both individual freedom AND the common good (which Hillary also falls flat on) to vote for.

-app

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
12. To my reading, Maher is contemplating voting for Rand Paul.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 12:42 PM
Sep 2014

Not that he will. I completely understand his conundrum, the difference being I am certain I won't vote for either of them.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
14. Another stupid statement by Bill.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 12:52 PM
Sep 2014

Often funny, occasionally spot-on, sometimes stupid. Sadly this is a case of the latter.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
15. Money fucks with your soul.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 12:54 PM
Sep 2014

Almost inevitably, you start believing its hype. It whispers to you that you are better than other people, and that other people just want to take it from you.

RIP Bill's soul.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
34. Oh please.. the guy gave a million dollars to Obama...
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 03:29 PM
Sep 2014

I don't agree with his love of Rand Paul but claiming the guy lost his soul to the dollar is at best.. overly dramatic..

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
48. According to the OP, Maher's done a bit of soul-searching since 2012.
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 11:24 AM
Sep 2014

Perhaps he's just engaging in hyperbole, but if not, are we not forgiven for suspecting that he's not immune to the call of money, either.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
17. Maher has always been a sexist, homophobic asshole...
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 12:55 PM
Sep 2014

Why does anyone think he's actually a liberal?

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
21. So the person who's said his views are closer to Libertarian than anything else
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 02:07 PM
Sep 2014

will vote for the Libertarian.

Surprise, surprise.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
26. This is a guy with an awkward personal life, to put it kindly.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 02:35 PM
Sep 2014

He frequently comes off as a sexist pig, while insisting that he's "all for equality" but treating women like commodities.

It's not surprising that he'd have a problem with a female candidate.

How many times here have I read that there's "no real difference" between HRC and POTUS? So why was he able to toss a million bucks at the Obama campaign, but he's got to vote for SquirrelHead Rand if "that woman" runs?

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
28. Yep, a Hillary presidency will separate the sexists from the racists.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 02:40 PM
Sep 2014

We've seen the blatant racism since Obama became president.

Prepare for eight years of blatant sexism.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
47. They'll just hound her over her date of birth.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 07:00 PM
Sep 2014

Only dudes are allowed to be late middle-aged!

Then she'll get raked over the coals re: her hairstyles and fashion choices! Like that matters!

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
35. But many of us would rather someone like Elizabeth Warren have to put up with the sexism!
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 03:34 PM
Sep 2014
Then she could sneak all of that good progressive legislation to restore accountability to Wall Street amongst other things through at times perhaps with the corporate lobbies not seeing her do it, if everything against her is described as sexist!
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
39. Warren will put the focus squarely on the working class and fairness for all.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 03:47 PM
Sep 2014

And not on herself, which I find to be a habit of both Maher and Clinton.

 

conservaphobe

(1,284 posts)
37. After Teachout's performance in NY, I don't think 2016 is set in stone.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 03:45 PM
Sep 2014

And I couldn't be happier about it.

MFM008

(19,818 posts)
41. wrong wrong wrong
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 04:46 PM
Sep 2014

Any one on the planet who thinks RP would make a decent president is insane. period.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
42. I would never vote for Rand Paul
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 04:47 PM
Sep 2014

but I won't vote for Hillary either.

If she ends up being the Dem nominee, I'll be hiding out in the Photo Group during campaign season -- and the next four years, if she wins.

TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
44. Inaccurate
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 05:01 PM
Sep 2014

He never said he's vote for Paul. Just that Clinton doesn't have his vote yet. And that's the way it should be. If Clinton knows she has 100 % of the liberals votes in the bag it will embolden her to become more and more conservative to woo the centrists. Without a contested primary Clinton has already realized she doesn't have to worry about liberals and is free to court the Kissinger crowd.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
45. Not that I would, I'd choose his father before I go for Rand.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 05:02 PM
Sep 2014

Rand is a soul-less shill who does not really have any convictions.

He's a mixture of Ron Paul's Libertarian leanings with a Sarah Palin like idiocity.

Maher is off his rocker on this one.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
46. He can vote for whomever he likes.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 05:03 PM
Sep 2014

I won't support Hillary Clinton either. Done with corporate Dems, sorry. But I vote for Rand Paul, period.

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