Hillary Clinton Praises a Guy With Lots of Blood on His Hands

[ellenrr]

In lauding Henry Kissinger, the possible Democratic presidential nominee goes far beyond her usual hawkish rhetoric.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/09/hillary-clinton-henry-kissinger-world-order

[Thinkingabout]

1. Are we becoming a little RW here, where shunning anyone who speaks of someone or to someone?

They both held the same position, do we go to colleges and have first graders as our professors, why no, then if you want to talk to someone who has experience in a position then you speak to those who have been there. A big mistake W made was relying on Cheney for his policies decision rather than going to past presidents. See where we are now.

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3. With that sort of reasoning, Angela Merkel could consult with you know who, because they're .....

both members of a small group of Germans who've been Chancellors.

[justabob]

5. we are becoming a little right wing here... because our leaders are fine with people like Kissinger

Kissinger is in the same class with Cheney. I will grant you that Kissinger is a smarter man, but his soul is every bit as dead as Cheney's. The other thing in Hillary's case is that associating with Kissinger is the nail in the coffin for a lot of people's support for her. Not smart for someone planning on running for POTUS on the democratic ticket.

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8. I guess I missed when Cheney was SOS.

[justabob]

10. that matters how?

You think Cheney wasn't pulling the strings of Colin Powell and the State Department? Cheney's reach had no boundaries. He mucked about in everything foreign and domestic. So what Kissinger held that office, got the Nobel Prize too. He is still a hard right republican, with a sordid history of decisions and activities that most democrats find unacceptable, at best.

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11. Guess you missed post #1, you talk to people who have been in your same position, Cheney was not

ever SOS, Kissinger was, just like presidents can get input from former presidents, there have not been lots of SOS's, many have gone on. When you judge everyone by who talks to who, it becomes like the RW, John Huntsman was never going to the GOP candidate because he was ambassador under Obama. Judging Hillary is doing the same think. If we put a wall up we will end up like RW, we have to talk and work with each other.

[justabob]

12. ok

I disagree, obviously....There is too much crossover already. Hillary already has a hawk reputation and she has to know a lot of dems aren't feeling it. Hillary does herself NO favors admitting that she consistently relied on his advice. She could have just as easily declined to write the review and/or tempered her response knowing that there would be backlash that might impact her campaign aspirations. That ol' Henry has since given a more ringing endorsement of her than any dem is also quite telling and hard to get past.

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13. Do I think Hillary would take necessary action when needed, yes. Before action is taken there

should be approval from Congress. Any candidate running for president needs to take action when needed, if not they should not run for this position.

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2. Just another reason to support Elizabeth Warren. Kissinger is a war criminal.

[justabob]

6. well, she isn't palling around with Kissinger

but she isn't so fantastic on foreign policy either. That is fine, it isn't her thing, but she is no advocate for peace. I agree Warren is better, but don't think she is as great on everything as she is on populist economics.

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15. Well, like another Clinton once said, "Its the economy, stupid."

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9. Warren has lots of experience in the financial sector but is lacking on many other areas.

I like Warren but prefer more experience worldwide.

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14. Seriously. What special training does Ms Clinton have?

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16. She has been SOS for one.

Hillary and Elizabeth on the issues


http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Hillary_Clinton.htm


http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Elizabeth_Warren.htm

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18. And how many SOS have run for POTUS let alone sat in the office?

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19. Don't know the history of every presidents background.

In the position of SOS she has served on the cabinet of president, she has traveled world wide and met with leaders of different nations, has negotiated with the leaders, who do you know except for past SOS has this experience?

[B Calm]

4. Kissinger was bad. Remember when he referred to our military

men as "dumb, stupid animals to be used" as pawns for foreign policy.

[DerekG]

7. Two peas in a fetid pod

Clinton is undoubtedly capable of initiating a Chile-styled coup herself.

I wouldn't vote for that Medusa's head were a gun placed to my temple.

[ellenrr]

17. Just curious, what % of people do you suppose read a whole article, and what % look for the point?

I'm guessing pretty small. by the comments. The point is that Kissinger is a murderous son-of-a-bitch, and the point of posting the article -
because no one who is in fact a Democrat or a democrat or a progressive of any stripe - could disagree that Kissinger is a murderous son-of-a-bitch-

the point is how could anyone justify supporting Hillary?

think about it....

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20. I guess qualifications doesn't count with you. Whether you like Kissinger or not, it does not make

make a candidate not to be a viable. I take it you really don't like Hillary.