News you can use: Scott Naturals tube-free toilet tissue (NOT a Koch product)

[OneGrassRoot]

Scott's brand, Scott Naturals, is the first toilet tissue to get rid of the cardboard roll; in the US alone, each year the cardboard rolls from toilet tissue could fill the Empire State Building -- TWICE.

Added bonus: They are NOT a Koch Industries product.


https://www.facebook.com/notes/boycott-and-defeat-koch-industries/koch-industriesgeorgia-pacific-products-to-avoid-list-of-alternatives-attached/153902421342335

No doubt there are many faults to find, as is the case with nearly everything, especially large companies, but this tube-free option is good to know about, imho.


https://www.scottbrand.com/products/naturals

[newfie11]

1. I will look for this next time

The cat and Pom will miss the tubes but I won't.

[Turbineguy]

2. But....

they make such great hash pipes! It says so on the Internet anyway.

[handmade34]

3. don't know....

http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/Global/usa/binaries/2009/2/tissue-guide-view-at-a-glance.pdf

they may have gotten more green conscience since this report?... recommendation is at least 50% post-consumer
recycled content and no bleach (Scotts Naturals is only 20%)

[OneGrassRoot]

4. Yeah, as I said in the OP, there seem to always be negatives...

especially with any huge company.

But it's the tube-free aspect of this product that is new, and moving in the right direction. They've gotten rid of the cardboard tube altogether. First one to do so, from what I've read.

[global1]

5. But What Will I Use To Prop My Door Open?.......nt

[lame54]

6. my dog will be pissed...

He steals the tubes out of the trash and plays with them

[brer cat]

7. We use them.

They can be a little awkward to put on the holder, but not really a big deal.

[muriel_volestrangler]

38. How do they work when you get near the end of the roll?

Doesn't paper alone lose its shape and stop rotating - you pull and just deform it?

[brer cat]

48. Ours have held their shape

and continued to roll until virtually the end of the roll.

[muriel_volestrangler]

49. Virtually? Don't they need to hold it all the way?

I was wondering if a reusable insert was how they did it.

[brer cat]

52. By virtually, I mean just the last 3 or 4 squares

pull off together when the end of the roll is reached. There was no insert on the ones we have used.

[tridim]

8. I don't understand.. Cardboard is recycleable

And anyway, bidets cut down on TP use more than anything.

Got mine for $40.

[OneGrassRoot]

10. Bidets are probably the best alternative. :)

Well, to me, just because something is recyclable doesn't mean we shouldn't try to do without it or cut down on its production.

[Mariana]

11. Even better, they can be composted.

The tubes create little air pockets in the compost pile, until they break down.

[magical thyme]

15. that's where mine end up.

very useful things...

[snooper2]

18. plus our gerbils love them

LOL

[Luminous Animal]

46. A savings on energy to not produce and a savings on energy to not recycle.

[underpants]

9. How am I supposed to make my one-time use potato cannons?

Hellooooo

Duh

[Cirque du So-What]

12. Oh, great...

Now what am I gonna wind the paper back on after the cat unwinds the roll onto the floor? My crossbar doesn't spin!

[Bibliovore]

13. Reverse your roll so it unwinds from the back instead of the front

Much harder for cats to unroll, as long as you don't keep a tongue of paper dangling out the back for them to paw at.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

14. Marcal brand is recycled paper and has been since before it was cool.

One of the very few brands that is 100% (or close, can't remember exact percentage right now.)

[OneGrassRoot]

16. Good to know! Maybe they will soon remove the tube, too.

[pinboy3niner]

30. Tube-free or not tube-free, that is the question

[OneGrassRoot]

32. hahaha....

[BlancheSplanchnik]

59. butt........to prove that you're a man,

You must wipe it with your hand.......

[pinboy3niner]

68. Are you nuts?

A man's hand is for....other things.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

69. NUTS...

Huh. Huh huh. You said Nuts. Huh huh huh.

[pinboy3niner]

70. We probably should put a sack in it now before this starts getting juvenile

Sock. I meant SOCK.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

72. that is the most disingenuous....

BLUSH I've ever seen.

I mean, srsly....let's just be honest here.

What you really meant was:





amirite?

[ieoeja]

71. FYI: that dates back to a parody of the theme song for the TV show "Branded".

Stranded. Stranded on the toilet bowl.
What do you when you're stranded. And you can't reach the roll.
To prove you're a man,
You will wipe with your hand.
That is true!

Stranded. Stranded on the toilet bowl.
What do you when you're stranded. And you can't reach the roll.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

57. well, if the tube's recycled too, then I guess it's ok.

And no need to go without all the useful thingamajiggies you can use them for.

[valerief]

24. It says it's 100% recycled but is it all paper? Last time I got it, it felt

like there was plastic in there.

On edit:
Found online that it's all paper. My bad! I still think the way to go for "paper" products is bamboo. Or hemp!

[Baitball Blogger]

17. Just a word about visual graphics in marketing...

I would never buy toilet paper that is already a shade of brown. Just say'n.

[OneGrassRoot]

27. I checked several places and Scott brands is not listed as a Koch Industries product.

I'm going to put this link in the OP. Is this not correct, to your knowledge?

https://www.facebook.com/notes/boycott-and-defeat-koch-industries/koch-industriesgeorgia-pacific-products-to-avoid-list-of-alternatives-attached/153902421342335

[valerief]

36. Except it's not. nt

[alterfurz]

20. paging Andy Rooney...

...anyone else notice how in recent years, more and more TP brands have increased the diameter of the cardboard tube, while reducing the width of the paper itself? All while American asses (mine included) just keep getting bigger? PS--At least it's not quite as bad here yet as Britain:

[maddiemom]

21. They ARE a Koch product.

[valerief]

26. Per Vanity Fair Mag, they're NOT Koch.

Activists who appreciate the easiness and convenience of recyclable paper products will be comforted to know that cursory Googling reveals that the Cottonelle® and Scott® brands are not within the Koch empire. Neither, we’ll casually mention again, is Vanity Fair magazine.

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2011/03/boycott-of-billionaire-koch-brothers-does-not-leave-very-many-paper-towel-options

[maddiemom]

45. My mistake. Thank you. See my reply to other corrections at the original posting.

[OneGrassRoot]

29. Where do you see that listed?

I visited several Boycott Koch sites and Scott isn't listed on any of them.

This is merely one such list.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/boycott-and-defeat-koch-industries/koch-industriesgeorgia-pacific-products-to-avoid-list-of-alternatives-attached/153902421342335

[maddiemom]

44. My mistake. I was going by an old listing (still posted) that also mistakenly names

Bounty, then doesn't include them on the actual site. Hey! Glad you set me straight and I can buy Bounty again.

[valerief]

22. Bamboo! I discovered Kora's bamboo toilet paper.

http://www.amazon.com/Tissue-Sheets-Bamboo-Non-recycled-Materials/dp/B00G5V6VYW

Why are we using trees to wipe our butts, when bamboo grows so fast in comparison to trees?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

34. That's funny considering the OP's user name.

[valerief]

35. Ha! Yeah, you're right!

[OneGrassRoot]

39. lol....true! :) n/t

[raouldukelives]

23. I like that. Every investment you make is a vote for the world you want. nt

[Gormy Cuss]

25. Now if they'd only widen the rolls to the old standard size...

It's great that they've figured out how to keep 'rolls' without the cardboard tube but I'm really tired of the shrinkage. At this rate I'll soon be able to load two rolls at a time because they're so narrow.

[Sophiegirl]

28. Fire starter

I recycle them. I stuff newspaper in toilet and paper towel rolls and use them as kindling for my fireplace.

[VA_Jill]

31. My daughter

stuffs hers with dryer lint for fire starters. Paper towel tubes too. And you thought THAT had no uses!

[OneGrassRoot]

33. Oh, wow, that's a great idea!!!

Thanks to you both for these ideas. Excellent.

[tblue37]

58. Paper towel tubes were among our favorite toys when we were kids.

They were "too-doo-too-doos." We ran around with them as horns, going, "Too-doo-too-doo!"

[Sophiegirl]

67. Hmmmm...

Never occurred to me to use dryer lint. But good idea! Thanks!

[Skidmore]

37. We've been buying this from our local store.

http://greenhygienics.com/products/sensational-bamboo/

The cost is pretty reasonable and you get the additional benefit of using a product that saves trees. I've found that most of the supermarkets on our area will order a product if asked to do so.

[OneGrassRoot]

40. Interesting. Valerief mentioned bamboo paper upthread...

This does make the most sense to me! I'm going to check this out.

[valerief]

41. I'm a bamboo convert, too! nt

[marked50]

42. We use the tubes

We heat our house with a woodstove and use the tubes as a "firestarter". We fill the insides with paper shreds and bingo- firestarters.

[OneGrassRoot]

43. Yeah, someone else just mentioned that. That is a GREAT idea!

I'm SO gonna use that idea, putting lint inside the tubes I have here, saved for some clever craft or something.

[hifiguy]

47. i used non-roll tube TP when I was in China.

It is very strange and not so convenient.

Real TP - the kind on rolls - is so valued there that it is immediately stolen when put out in public restrooms. I am surprised I didn't see some guy with a thousand rolls of US style TP bungeed to a scooter or selling it on the street.

[OneGrassRoot]

62. The things I've learned in this thread...

Very interesting. Thanks, hifiguy.

[Taitertots]

50. What? I'm the only one who just wipes his ass with the tub?

Waste not, want not

[RandiFan1290]

51. That is too funny

I was picturing a straddled position on the edge of the tub and dying laughing.

[Taitertots]

56. Tube. But the mistake is funnier

[OneGrassRoot]

61. omg...

Now I can't stop laughing!

[tblue37]

54. The bath tub? nt

[Taitertots]

55. Tube. Damn you iPhone auto correct

[tblue37]

53. There are whole subcultures built up around toilet paper tube crafts.

For example, some people make the most *elaborate* miniature albums for photos and keepsakes from TP tubes.

Once I saw a reference to "toilet paper albums" somewhere and was so surprised and confused that I googled to find out what that was.

I found innumerable YouTube videos showing how to use the tubes to create these little albums. Now, I am not one to spend time doing such things, but I was fascinated by the intense devotion the creators had to their craft, as well as the fact that many of those artsy-craftsy women (who showed a remarkable degree of creativity and aesthetic sense, not to mention their ability to turn the lowliest of household items into works of domestic art!) had acquired rather large and devoted fan clubs who left comments on their instructional videos.

I spent several fascinating hours one night just watching those videos and reading the comments on them. Now I am worried about those folks. If toilet paper rolls disappear, there will be no more elaborate TP roll mini albums. I am sure these clever women will find other materials to work their magic on, but I can't help but lament the possibility that the toilet paper tube mini album might become extinct.

Check it out:

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Oh, and there are other toilet paper tube crafts, as well. Mini albums are just the ones I found most astonishing and intriguing.

Here is a Pinterest page offering 101 things to do with TP tubes:

http://www.pinterest.com/cttdbreeves/101-things-to-do-with-a-toilet-paper-roll/

I am reminded of quilting--of how need + frugality + creativity and aesthetic sense led to the invention of that domestic art form.

[OneGrassRoot]

60. I'm not sure why, but I can't stop laughing...

I think it was your comment: "Now I am worried about those folks. If toilet paper rolls disappear, there will be no more elaborate TP roll mini albums."



But, seriously, like you I greatly admire the ingenuity of crafters and their innovative use of surprising materials.

I'm thinking perhaps the tube need to remain in the marketplace. Clearly, there are a million reasons -- with only a few proclaimed throughout this thread -- why the world (human and pets) would miss the cardboard tubes.

I am now more enlightened about this fact, thanks to DU.

Thanks, tblue37!

[pinboy3niner]

63. There is a movement to lobby the manufacturer to reconsider

They've sent a tubal legation.

[tblue37]

64. pinboy, you are inccorigiblw! nt

[OneGrassRoot]

66. You're killin' me!

[tblue37]

65. I have to admit that I chuckled a bit at the very *idea* that people were making miniature photo

albums and scrapbooks out of toilet paper rolls. I guess some people have a kind of search template when they view almost anything in the world, automatically spotting possibilities for craft items.