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kpete

(71,997 posts)
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 09:38 PM Sep 2014

"No government admits anymore that it keeps an army to satisfy occasionally the desire for conquest"

The means to real peace.—

No government admits any more that it keeps an army to satisfy occasionally the desire for conquest. Rather the army is supposed to serve for defense, and one invokes the morality that approves of self-defense. But this implies one's own morality and the neighbor's immorality; for the neighbor must be thought of as eager to attack and conquer if our state must think of means of self-defense.

Moreover, the reasons we give for requiring an army imply that our neighbor, who denies the desire for conquest just as much as does our own state, and who, for his part, also keeps an army only for reasons of self-defense, is a hypocrite and a cunning criminal who would like nothing better than to overpower a harmless and awkward victim without any fight.

Thus all states are now ranged against each other: they presuppose their neighbor's bad disposition and their own good disposition. This presupposition, however, is inhumane, as bad as war and worse. At bottom, indeed, it is itself the challenge and the cause of wars, because, as I have said, it attributes immorality to the neighbor and thus provokes a hostile disposition and act.

We must abjure the doctrine of the army as a means of self-defense just as completely as the desire for conquests. And perhaps the great day will come when people, distinguished by wars and victories and by the highest development of a military order and intelligence, and accustomed to make the heaviest sacrifices for these things, will exclaim of its own free will, "We break the sword," and will smash its entire military establishment down to its lowest foundations.

Rendering oneself unarmed when one had been the best-armed, out of a height of feeling—that is the means to real peace, which must always rest on a peace of mind; whereas the so-called armed peace, as it now exists in all countries, is the absence of peace of mind. One trusts neither oneself nor one's neighbor and, half from hatred, half from fear, does not lay down arms.

Rather perish than hate and fear, and twice rather perish than make oneself hated and feared—this must someday become the highest maxim for every single commonwealth. Our liberal representatives, as is well known, lack the time for reflecting on the nature of man: else they would know that they work in vain when they work for a "gradual decrease of the military burden."

Rather, only when this kind of need has become greatest will the kind of god be nearest who alone can help here.

The tree of war-glory can only be destroyed all at once, by a stroke of lightning: but lightning, as indeed you know, comes from a cloud—and from up high.

Friedrich W Nietzsche, The Wanderer and His Shadow


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"No government admits anymore that it keeps an army to satisfy occasionally the desire for conquest" (Original Post) kpete Sep 2014 OP
Bookmarking, interesting... AuntPatsy Sep 2014 #1
not just interesting, kpete Sep 2014 #2
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #3
Uncle Joe kpete Sep 2014 #4
It's good to see you as well, kpete. Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #5
We can't trust them; they can't trust us RobertEarl Sep 2014 #6

Uncle Joe

(58,372 posts)
5. It's good to see you as well, kpete.
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 09:50 PM
Sep 2014

I hope you and your family are doing well and that California gets some much needed rain soon.

Peace to you.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
6. We can't trust them; they can't trust us
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 03:09 AM
Sep 2014

The US has enough nuclear weapons to blow the world to smithereens ten times over.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Nietzsche. This is a brave new world, Fred, full of scared people.

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