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pampango

(24,692 posts)
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 12:37 PM Sep 2014

Amnesty International: Ukraine: Mounting evidence of war crimes and Russian involvement

Ukrainian militia and separatist forces are responsible for war crimes, Amnesty International said today. The organisation accused Russia of fuelling separatist crimes as it revealed satellite images indicating a build-up of Russian armour and artillery in eastern Ukraine.

Despite a fragile cease-fire, the situation on the ground remains fraught with danger and Amnesty International calls on all parties, including Russia, to stop violations of the laws of war. “All sides in this conflict have shown disregard for civilian lives and are blatantly violating their international obligations,” said Salil Shetty, Amnesty International’s Secretary General, who travels to Kyiv and Moscow in the coming days.

“Our evidence shows that Russia is fuelling the conflict, both through direct interference and by supporting the separatists in the East. Russia must stop the steady flow of weapons and other support to an insurgent force heavily implicated in gross human rights violations.”

The Kremlin has repeatedly denied any involvement in the fighting in Ukraine, but satellite imagery and testimony gathered by the Amnesty International provide compelling evidence that the fighting has burgeoned into what Amnesty International now considers an international armed conflict.

http://amnesty.org./en/news/ukraine-mounting-evidence-war-crimes-and-russian-involvement-2014-09-05

Finally something more than the "he (Russia) said, she (Ukraine) said", along with the "No we are not doing that and you can't prove that we are" denials from both sides, that we usually get.

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Amnesty International: Ukraine: Mounting evidence of war crimes and Russian involvement (Original Post) pampango Sep 2014 OP
Prepare for Amnesty International to be thrown under the bus Peacetrain Sep 2014 #1
I've tried, but it always goes back to those rainbow cookies: freshwest Sep 2014 #9
Those Amnesty PNACers! NuclearDem Sep 2014 #2
Amnesty International are well-known Codeine Sep 2014 #3
NULAND !!!!11!one! MrNJ Sep 2014 #4
The only ones who deny Russia's misbehavior geek tragedy Sep 2014 #5
...but they were damn good cookies. (nt) jeff47 Sep 2014 #17
AI reports the obvious. Both sides have committed war crimes. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2014 #6
Some deny that Russia is a participant on geek tragedy Sep 2014 #7
Except the Catherina Crowd here insists that it's only the Ukrainian side to blame. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #8
With an emphasis on... LanternWaste Sep 2014 #11
I blame Victoria Nuland's cookies Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #10
Hang on. Gotta wait for RT to tell me what to think. jeff47 Sep 2014 #12
I'm waiting on the six degrees of Bush family. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #13
Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll link it back to someone jeff47 Sep 2014 #15
This doesn't change the fact that NATO has been surrounding Russia since the end of the cold war AZ Progressive Sep 2014 #14
You have an odd definition of "Surround". jeff47 Sep 2014 #16
And what Reagan did was acceptable? Not geek tragedy Sep 2014 #18
You mean when Reagan funded rape and murder terror squads in Central America? NuclearDem Sep 2014 #20
Or that small countries, for some odd reason, have sought some protection from Russia. pampango Sep 2014 #21
. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #19

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
1. Prepare for Amnesty International to be thrown under the bus
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 12:55 PM
Sep 2014

by the Russia did no wrong crew, and America cannot criticize them because we are so bad bad bad.. take it to the bank..

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
9. I've tried, but it always goes back to those rainbow cookies:
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 02:12 PM
Sep 2014

Last edited Mon Sep 8, 2014, 05:38 PM - Edit history (1)



Even after rebuttals:

President Barack Obama spent "$5 billion paying Ukrainians to riot and dismantle their democratically elected government."




http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/mar/19/facebook-posts/united-states-spent-5-billion-ukraine-anti-governm/

Found to be:





I posted on several items on this with many videos and pictures and links, but DU search refuses to show the post no matter how hard I try.

It appears that anything that is added to a Journal deletes it from regular search results.
Then going the Journal results in it going to a page that has NOTHING to do with the post and it's not there.

Going through My Posts likewise does not show. It was not a hidden post or anything. And it had replies, as well.

So all of that research gone to waste here. But I brought you some delicious cookies...

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
3. Amnesty International are well-known
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 01:01 PM
Sep 2014

fascist sympathizers in the pocket of the MIC and Zionists.

, for the impaired.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. The only ones who deny Russia's misbehavior
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 01:25 PM
Sep 2014

are those who support it, or in the case of MH17, are incapable of being disturbed by it.

One power handed out cookies, the other started a war by invading its neighbors.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
8. Except the Catherina Crowd here insists that it's only the Ukrainian side to blame.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 01:35 PM
Sep 2014

And that the separatists are innocent "anti-fascists" fighting against the junta.

It's the same thing they did with the Odessa riots.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
11. With an emphasis on...
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 02:17 PM
Sep 2014

With AI's emphasis on...

"Russia is fueling the conflict, both through direct interference and by supporting the separatists in the East. Russia must stop the steady flow of weapons and other support to an insurgent force heavily implicated in gross human rights violations.”

A statement heavily contested and rationalized by the somewhat more... dimwitted and dogmatic.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
10. I blame Victoria Nuland's cookies
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 02:17 PM
Sep 2014

She knew exactly what she was doing when she handed out those cookies to the Ukrainian protesters.

Her goal was to bring the universe directly under her control and she has succeeded beyond her wildest dreams.

She must be stopped.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
12. Hang on. Gotta wait for RT to tell me what to think.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 04:24 PM
Sep 2014

Maybe Robert Parry will quote some unnamed sources about how Amnesty International is under Dick Cheney's control.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
15. Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll link it back to someone
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 05:04 PM
Sep 2014

named Буш. Which Google translate claims is the word "Bush" in Russian.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
14. This doesn't change the fact that NATO has been surrounding Russia since the end of the cold war
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 05:04 PM
Sep 2014
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlargement_of_NATO#mediaviewer/File:History_of_NATO_enlargement.svg

You think the U.S. would act any differently? Remember Central America during the 80's?

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
16. You have an odd definition of "Surround".
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 05:08 PM
Sep 2014

Your definition of "surround" apparently covers only one direction.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
21. Or that small countries, for some odd reason, have sought some protection from Russia.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 09:32 PM
Sep 2014

Their experience of occupation and repression by the USSR for 45 years must have left them with an otherwise inexplicable desire to join an alliance that might help to keep history from repeating itself.

You think the U.S. would act any differently? Remember Central America during the 80's?

Reagan was right then and so is Russia now? Or Reagan was wrong then and so is Russia now? It is no wonder that so many fundamentalist and far-right republicans idolize Putin. He's bringing Reagan back to life in a different part of the world.
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