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Number of persons killed on American soil so far this year by terrorists: 3.
Number of persons killed on American soil so far this year by toddlers: 5.
Note that three of the toddler killings occurred on the same day, April 9, six days before the Boston Marathon bombing.
The most recent took place last Tuesday, April 30, when a 5-year-old in Cumberland County, Kentucky, killed his 2-year-old sister Caroline with a child-size .22 caliber My First Rifle his parents had given him as a gift. These deadly toys are manufactured by Crickett Firearms, which reportedly has taken down its website since the shooting.
Strangely enough, it took me several hours to track down this list. If theres a national registry of this shocking type of shooting, I cant find it:
2/11/13: 4-year-old Joshua Johnson shoots, kills self, Shelby County, TN.
4/9/13: 4-year-old shoots, kills 6-year-old friend Brandon Holt, Toms River, NJ.
4/9/13: 3-year-old shoots, kills self, South Carolina (no further details).
4/9/13: Josephine Fanning, 48, shot & killed by her 4-year-old son, Wilson County, TN.
4/30/13: 2-year-old Caroline Sparks killed by her 5-year-old brother with his kid-size first gun, Cumberland County, KY.
Read more: http://blogs.forward.com/jj-goldberg/176043/more-killed-by-toddlers-than-terrorists-in-us/#ixzz3CckiSn3R
KG
(28,751 posts)Chemisse
(30,813 posts)Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)Last edited Sun Sep 7, 2014, 09:49 AM - Edit history (1)
You can't negotiate with them
They don't recognize borders
They are impossible to identify in a crowd. Toddlers and terrorists wear no uniform and work to no timetable.
Give in to terrorists or toddlers demands and life as you know it or want it to be, will be over
Next up ... the war on Terror
After Pearl Harbor the US declares war on naval aviation....................(a tactic for those that don't get it)
Chemisse
(30,813 posts)pipi_k
(21,020 posts)They are deceptively cute.
They lure you in with their innocent looks.
Then they kill you dead.
sort of like kitties without all the fur.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)Associated with it.
ybbor
(1,554 posts)I'm pretty sure that only the toddler amount has grown. If we only raise the age to 10 it has probably raised by a factor or 5. But we can't be keeping those types of records, or so says the NRA?
krispos42
(49,445 posts)I didn't think the CDC was allowed to keep these records. Regardless, it's higher than I thought.
ileus
(15,396 posts)If it's not on your side it should be locked up.
Terrorist on the other hand, well the best you can do is be aware.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)this gun toting country is "no place to be somebody".
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)If your not with us you're with the toddlers!
livingonearth
(728 posts)That picture of the little kid holding the assault rifle is one of the sickest things I've ever seen. His parents are obviously idiots.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)As well as the Final Assault on the Bill of Rights.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)opt for a gun "accident" over leaving them in a hot car as a way to get rid of their kid. There's got to be a percentage that are staged to look like an accident. I mean, who really is this dumb with their kid?
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)Response to Downwinder (Reply #14)
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alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)You know that, and so does the CDC. Below age 15 those killed are sixty-something-a-year?
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)an Uzi and a free experience at our
shooting range for you and your any child under 12
Offer good at many of our nationwide stores
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)But you do have your oh-so-productive culture war.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)I don't do that anymore and use to hunt a lot.
but whatever YANKS your chain and makes you feel alive and gets you off go for it.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)However, I do take the native mourning and white wing species, and occasionally the invasive Eurasian collared dove. But even the latter one is not your "dove for peace."
As per your comments, you trying to sound sexy?
treestar
(82,383 posts)They hide behind being adorable. Yet they are plotting every day - maybe even in league with cats.
WhiteAndNerdy
(365 posts)I'm terrified of the little *******s.
Blue Owl
(50,443 posts)n/t
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)but we need more FEAR
otohara
(24,135 posts)and the parents who give them guns.
I swear to God - we are one stupid fucking country. Trillions spent on Iraq and Afghanistan and absolutely nothing is done to curb or eliminate gun violence.
Murika - stupid - the world looks on in horror and shakes their heads.
Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)themselves.
russ1943
(618 posts)For the rest of the story I would like to bring to the readers attention that even for those under 15 the fact is that for each young person killed accidentally theres approximately another 10 who are unintentionally shot, that dont die. For the last 10 years that we (WISQARS) have statistics for both killed and injured 2002 2011 there were 7,219 or 92% of the 7,838 shot that were injured, not killed. Those children below age 15 killed by "accidental discharge" are an extraordinarily miniscule example of the problem. What are the odds that an unintentional discharge of a firearm will hit anyone, much less inflict such severe damage to an individual that theyre actually killed? Unintentional firearm discharges most often will hit nothing, at least nothing consequential. Some smaller number will hit something, a smaller percentage yet, will hit someone under 15 and only about 8% of those hit, die (from the gunshot). Statistics demonstrate that 92% of those under 15 shot accidently arent killed, so they arent included in the oft repeated accidentally killed statistic.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Thanks to you, I can sleep tonight. I mean, not that many kids are getting killed--they're getting SHOT. That's great!!
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)and getting shot by someone in your family is no big deal in Murka...
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)A 5-year-old boy in Texas is in critical condition after he reportedly shot himself in the face with a shotgun while hunting with his 11-year-old brother.
(snip)
The 5-year-old was taken by life flight helicopter to Memorial Herman Hospital, where he was listed in critical condition.
Harris County Sheriff's deputies were investigating why the boys had access to guns and a car while their father was at work.
Yes, why DID those kids have unsupervised access to guns, indeed?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025502639
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1262421#post38
russ1943
(618 posts)City of Richmond News, Shooting death of Richmond 4-year-old a tragic accident.ed: Saturday, September 6, 2014 11:30 am BY JIM NOLAN Richmond Times-Dispatch Richmond police said the death of a 4-year-old girl fatally wounded Friday evening in her home by a pellet gun fired by another youngster was an accident and no charges will be filed.
http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/local/city-of-richmond/shooting-death-of-richmond--year-old-a-tragic-accident/article_267892f4-3569-11e4-8002-0017a43b2370.html#.VAxDjTrnn80.facebook
Dont know if shooter qualifies as toddler.
russ1943
(618 posts)6-Year-Old Fatally Shoots Grandfather With Uncles Rifle. May 27, 2014 6:11 PM HOMESTEAD (CBSMiami) A man is dead after his 6-year-old grandson accidentally pulled the trigger of his uncles unattended rifle during a barbecue at the familys home. http://miami.cbslocal.com/2014/05/27/6-year-old-fatally-shoots-grandfather-with-uncles-rifle/
russ1943
(618 posts)May 17, 2014 4:27 pm Lauri Harvey Keagle lauri.keagle@nwi.com, (219) 852-4311. MERRILLVILLE | A 4-year-old Merrillville, Indiana boy died Saturday morning after accidentally shooting himself with a gun he found in his home, officials said Saturday. http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/lake/merrillville/year-old-boy-shot-killed-in-merrillville/article_511a6e55-ed63-5d20-87b8-5216d80f60f1.html
russ1943
(618 posts)Police: 4-year-old pulled trigger of gun, killing little brother.By Stan Finger 04/30/2014 12:24 PM | Updated: 08/06/2014 12:47 PM
The innocent play of three young children took a tragic turn, police officials said, when one of them reached into the drawer of a nightstand and pulled the trigger of a handgun stored there, fatally wounding his little brother. It was a terrible, terrible tragedy, Lt. Todd Ojile said Wednesday in describing how the 19-month-old boy died at Wesley Medical Center, less than an hour after he was shot in the chest shortly before 2 p.m. Tuesday. The toddler was in a bedroom of the small house at 1312 N. Pennsylvania with his 4-year-old brother and 3-year-old half-sister............. http://www.kansas.com/news/article1141678.html
You got to know there's more, but I'm tired of this, it's depressing.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Look at our priorities when it comes to policy shown w/ this post really shows they're screwed up but wish it was shocking.
I'd hate to bring up breed specific legislation but it really is a good example when it comes to news always hyping and reporting a pit bull attack leading to bad laws. "Pit Bull" has been used to describe several dogs but the only breed that features it "American Pit Bull Terrier" have many dogs that are smaller (sometimes much smaller) than other dogs from the molosser family which features similar bodies. Even getting into which specific breed committed what attack when compared to the odds of a child being killed by someone from their own family isn't even close. The numbers (which 1 is too many) aren't even close to injuries caused by horses and the number of dogs from the several lumped molosser breeds that exist compared to the number of reported injuries would easily show 1% of all.