Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Isn't A "Scandal." It's A Sex Crime.

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Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Isn't A "Scandal." It's A Sex Crime.

As most of you probably know, someone somewhere dumped a deluge of purported nude photographs of a number of female celebrities online yesterday. The victims include the likes of Kate Upton, Victoria Justice, Ariana Grande, Kirsten Dunst, Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Krysten Ritter, Yvonne Strahovski, and Teresa Palmer. But the focal point for this story has been Hunger Games/American Hustle actress Jennifer Lawrence, since the Oscar winning actress is perhaps the most famous actress on the planet right now. Without going into sordid details ( Justice and Grande have claimed their respective photos are fake, others have confirmed they are real), I’d like to make two very specific points. Ms. Lawrence and the other victims have absolutely nothing to apologize for in terms of the contents of the photos or the nature in which they were leaked. The story itself should not be addressed as if it were a scandal, but rather what it is: A sex crime involving theft of personal property and the exploitation of the female body.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2014/09/01/jennifer-lawrence-nude-photo-leak-isnt-a-scandal-its-a-sex-crime/

[roguevalley]

1. I agree with her. I also think in this age its politic to keep your

pictures off your phone and locked down. It may not be right but its smart.

[tazkcmo]

10. Exactly

I also agree with her. I also agree with you.

[Cleita]

51. I get criticized a lot for this, but protecting yourself in the real world

is a necessity. Sure it would be right to have the protections of society, but until laws are passed protecting women's rights we have to do the best to protect ourselves from any kind of exploitation.
I learned a long time ago that even though I may have the right of way, it's not going to stop someone determined to run me over so caution should always be first.

Now watch all the critics arrive.

[roguevalley]

54. I agree with you, Cleita. If she had understood the vile nature of too many people

in her business and the bottom feeders that hang around and leech off them, she would have taken precautions. I love this girl. I LOVE her. But honestly ... if I were her granny I would be wagging my finger. It doesn't matter what a perfect world is like. It doesn't matter if its unfair, etc. It is what it is. PROTECT yourself because once its on the internet it is there forever. I wish her luck in getting judgment for this but sometimes the best lessons are the hardest. I speak from experience.

[jimlup]

2. Yes

not unlike "up skirt" snooping and the like of 10 years ago.

[JTFrog]

3. A-fucking-men.

So fucking sick of what is going on right now.

[rocktivity]

24. A-fucking-men?

That can be taken two ways.


rocktivity

[NuclearDem]

4. So sick of the pathetic "if you didn't want them stolen why take them"

It's just as abhorrent as "what was she wearing?"

[Kalidurga]

6. Apparently that is an extremist position

On another thread there are several people who take exception to the sentiment that this is sexual abuse and a crime.

[roguevalley]

49. I love Jennifer Lawrence but she lives and works in a sewer. She needs to think

harder about the slime around her. I hope she gets the perps good. Don't put pix on your phone. They are worth millions to others when you are as cool and famous as her.

[zappaman]

58. "lives and works in a sewer"?

"She needs to think harder about the slime around her."
Not sure what you mean by these statements...

[roguevalley]

66. my fault. what i am saying is sharks hang out waiting to strike in her business. in the

Midst of her life slime exists. Go to TMZ dot com and see. Put them in jail and slam apple. But know your terrain. Be more careful. I can't imagine this awfulness but I am not surprised given the slime out there waiting for a payday.

[zappaman]

67. Ok, but...

I don't see what that has to do with her being hacked by someone she doesn't know and could live a world away.
Being hacked can happen to anyone.

[roguevalley]

71. yes it can but someone like her, famous and beautiful is a target. Her position

and fame make her a target in a town that is full of paparazzi and leaches. She will be a bigger and more lucrative target of opportunity than most people.

[PeaceNikki]

5. I've been quoting and linking to this all afternoon

Thanks for starting an op.

[Kalidurga]

7. Hey Peace Nikki

I really appreciate your posts in that other thread.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

8. a lot of the excuses people are offering are along the lines of

'you shouldn't have nice things in your house because someone might steal them'. wtf kind of response is that.

this is a crime when someone steals something from you

[JustAnotherGen]

13. You nailed it!

[ReRe]

27. That's right...

Theft = theft. Period.

[Fred Drum]

35. stealing is a crime

and copyright infringement is a crime as well.

don't forget the copyright is with the photog

[gollygee]

37. +1

Great way of putting it.

[FiveGoodMen]

59. People DO lock their doors, though.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

60. yes, and these people use internet security. doors can be broken. nt

[FiveGoodMen]

61. Right, but you'd still advise someone to lock their doors anyway

No sense making it easier for the thief.

In the same way, we should be able to simultaneously hold the views that...

1) people should not HAVE to protect themselves from this sort of thing, and

2) people should try to protect themselves from this sort of thing.

In other words, "arming" a potential victim is not the same as blaming them.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

62. why do you assume they didn't use security? when these billionaire techguru's give us a platform

and say its safe, we believe them. much like we believe the locksmith and the alarm system etc.

[FiveGoodMen]

63. Nothing works all the time.

What I'm saying is that we don't lambaste the locksmith for "blaming the victim".

But often on DU, anyone says anything about protecting yourself, they get jumped on as if they'd said the victim "had it coming".

[La Lioness Priyanka]

64. but locksmiths dont blame their clients. i dont get your analogy at all.

what you guys are subtly saying is very much in the vein that they had it coming, either by implying that they should have known or they should have used more security (as though you personally know how much or how little they had used) or that they should not have naked pictures in the first place.

[kcr]

68. But it's such a scary world nowadays

You really should live in a yurt out in the woods with minimal possessions where know one knows the location. Really, I don't know what people are thinking, having things. So risky.

[LadyHawkAZ]

9. k&r

[4b5f940728b232b034e4]

11. And the person that released them should be a registered sex offender

Should we also go that far with the people that knowingly looked at them?

[Codeine]

26. Considering the fact that many people saw them

randomly while scrolling through Tumblr or Instagram I think that would be a difficult proposition.

[cwydro]

12. Celebrity privilege anyone?

The FBI is "looking into it."

Does anyone think for a minute that the FBI would care if a naked pic of anyone of us was suddenly "leaked?" I'm sure the FBI would get right on any complaint I made about this sort of thing. Riiggghhht.

Seriously?

And, I don't equate a celebrity selfie being leaked with a sex crime. Sorry. Hate all you want. Many of these are leaked on purpose.

Pics of Anthony Weiner's, um, weiner, were all over DU. Were those DUers that posted them guilty of sex crimes???

Come on, this is getting ridiculous.

[conservaphobe]

14. America is turning into one, big perpetual contest of who can outcrazy the crazy.

Patricia Arquette is accusing people who view them of 'group molestation'

She and the author of this article are certainly in the running this week.

[sendero]

16. You know it is really pretty simple...

... if these photos were in fact stolen from a server as purported, IT IS A CRIME. Period, end of story.

And I hope the perps are punished in accordance with the law which is pretty serious on such a matter.

If data on any computer is open season to be stolen and disseminated I'm sure you won't mind if some hacker posts all your credit card info.

[cwydro]

30. Of course I would mind.

My point was that the FBI could give a flip if it was me.

But someone who is a celebrity...hey clear the decks...hell with terrorism...someone got hold of {insert celebrity name here} nude pic! Red alert!

DU is hilarious.

Did anyone care when Weiner's pics were out there? No, we blasted them all over DU in glee>

I'm not arguing the crime part of it. Of course it is. But, only those with money or status can get this even "looked at."

And I would imagine even then, that nothing will come of it.

[sendero]

32. You are one..

.... this is many many people. See the difference?

[cwydro]

42. There are many,many ordinary citizens

that this happens to fairly frequently.

If you really think that celebrities and wealthy folks don't have more rights than is...well...you're living in cloud cuckoo land .

[sendero]

45. I totally agree..

... but that is not what is in action here. Any time there is a data breach involving a lot of data the FBI gets involved.

[840high]

21. With you 100%.

[BeyondGeography]

15. It's also a crashing bore

[mimi85]

46. Exactly. Why do we even need a thread (or two) about this non-story on here?

Save it for thediscussionist. I agree with the A. Weiner deal too. Nobody stole shit from anybody. If you put it out there without copyright, tough shit. I feel no sympathy with any of these celebrities. I wouldn't know the vast majority if they knocked on my door. Don't we have more important things to do? Like GOTV 2014?

[jehop61]

17. Funny

no one has been paying attention to her lately. This will get her name in the press, won't it?

[starroute]

34. The next Hunger Games movie is due out in Novemer

I don't think she really has to worry about getting attention -- and your comment is awfully mean-spirited.

[xmas74]

69. She's starts the press junket in a month or so

and has a few movies coming out.

With as many celebrities as were hacked all at once I don't think she had anything to do with it.

I'm sure you didn't mean to blame the victim in this piece but it comes off as such.

[MisterP]

18. stare rape 2.0?

[ColesCountyDem]

19. It's definitely a crime, but a sex crime?

How so?

[still_one]

23. I think it is a sex crime if the pictures were taken without her knowledge or permission. As you

said regardless it is a crime

[ColesCountyDem]

28. Broadeneing the definition of what constitutes a sex crime that far is troubling.

The theft is, admittedly, taking without permission. The argument that because the photos were nudes starts down a slippery slope that I'm not sure is in society's best interest. What would be next? theft of underwear pics is a misdemeanor sex crime?

[mimi85]

47. Anyone remember the infamous Sear's catalog

picture in the men's underwear section? Ha, that was good for a laugh or two. BFD.

[still_one]

48. I said if the pictures were taken without her knowledge or permission that is a type

Of voyerism

[AngryAmish]

40. If I look through a window at the same stuff, I get a sex offender jacket.

[ColesCountyDem]

50. No.

If you looked through a window at her naked photos, you would not get a sex offender jacket. You'd only get one of those if you were looking at her, in the flesh.

[pfitz59]

20. So when the NSA intercepts and steals

EVERYBODY's photos and texts its not a crime? Lets apply a universal standard here. make hacking a crime, have it apply to the PATRIOTS jacking-off in DC!

[Dr. Strange]

22. That's totally different!

Because security! Snowdenghazi!

[phil89]

25. Huh? What does "sex" have to do with this crime?

Makes no sense.

[alp227]

52. The photos are of a sexual nature and were meant to be private.

However, the pictures were stolen, and the subjects lost their personality rights.

[HoosierCowboy]

29. Millions in Free Publicity

...makes me feel it's just more Hollywood. Some publicity agent got some chump to hack for him. We would never know who half these ladies are otherwise.
...if the NSA sees all our naked asses, what the hell.
Hoe-Hum

Another thing, what part of "You should have no expectation of privacy on the internet" didn't they understand?

[Lithos]

31. Don't think it's a sex crime

It's a theft of privacy. No different if an individual does it, or an agency like the NSA.

Convict this person, convict the NSA.

L-

[X_Digger]

36. Yeah, calling this a sex crime demeans actual sex crimes. n/t

[cwydro]

43. Yup nt

[harun]

55. +1

[hifiguy]

65. Yep, it's a crime of theft.

Not a sex crime.

[Shadowsmith]

33. Crime - yes. Sex crime - no.

Crime? Yes, indeed. Theft of any property is a crime. Distributing IP without permission is also a crime.

Sex crime? Unless one or more of the victims are underage, no. If the photos were taken without the subject's knowledge and consent, that's a sex crime. If any of the victims are underage, or were underage when the photo was taken, then the FBI will seriously get involved and track down the pedophile.

[alp227]

53. The subjects probably consented to those photos, as long as they remain PRIVATE. nt

[PoutrageFatigue]

38. Sex-crime? No. Massive violation of privacy? Fucking-A...

... they were some private nude picture of adults.... let's keep a little perspective...

[Roland99]

39. Awkward Family Photos' response >>>>

http://awkwardfamilyphotos.com/2014/09/01/10-topless-celebs/


heh

[FSogol]

57. Pretty good. n/t

[YOHABLO]

41. Mmmm if you're a ''celebrity'' and getting nude in front of a camera .. there's always a possiblity

these photos will get out one way or another. Either rejoice in having a beautiful body, unashamedly, or suffer the consequences. I really don't think it's a big deal. We're all human and anatomically alike .. well pretty much, give or take a few muscles or some fat.

[randome]

44. So a nude body is equivalent to sex, eh?

[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

[rocktivity]

56. It's a hacking. Hacking is a crime. Hackers are criminals who should be caught and punished.

But always keep in mind that regardless of the best intentions and efforts of the online storage keepers, ANYTHING you upload is capable of being hacked -- and always will be.


rocktivity

[TransitJohn]

70. No it's not.

It's a property crime.