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ClarkJonathanKent

(91 posts)
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 07:33 PM Aug 2014

The nominee in 2016....putting my cards on the table

First off, I love seeing all the threads that pop up that point out valid criticisms of Hillary and threads that wonder WHY she is seems to be the de facto candidate. That being said, while I am not intending to speak for anyone else here, who else agrees with me that:


1. You would prefer another candidate, or at least prefer that there be challenges to her nomination so that issues can be debated.

2. If she is chosen to be the candidate, she is not the best candidate our party could produce in regards to actual stances on issues and fighting for democratic ideals.

3. If she is nominated, you hope in your heart that a REALISTIC 3rd option will arise that will be truly progressive, but if it doesn't....

4. You will certainly vote for her because the alternative is even worse.

I only point these things out because some people around seem to want the critics of Hillary to shut up, and I find that pretty offensive. We can criticize someone and still end up voting for them because they are the lesser of two evils. That's what most of us do. So why try to silence others?

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The nominee in 2016....putting my cards on the table (Original Post) ClarkJonathanKent Aug 2014 OP
You lost me at #3. Agschmid Aug 2014 #1
And, with that, I think you pretty much locked up the Daily Strawman Award BeyondGeography Aug 2014 #2
Not only the point you made but... wyldwolf Aug 2014 #3
LOL, too funny and right on point. XRubicon Aug 2014 #7
Too Meta./NT DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #4
I think the underlying issue is that many have lost faith in the process. Maedhros Aug 2014 #5
Let the candidates show up and declare at the proper time. Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #6
Im sorry but I'm past voting for "the lesser of two evils" thing. But I wll say this ... PFunk Aug 2014 #8

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
1. You lost me at #3.
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 07:35 PM
Aug 2014

If that progressive person arrives if they aren't a nominee of a major party I don't see them winning.

That's the issue with 2 major parties.

BeyondGeography

(39,376 posts)
2. And, with that, I think you pretty much locked up the Daily Strawman Award
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 07:38 PM
Aug 2014

for Wed., Aug. 27.

Most any Hillary thread runs about 90 percent opposed and I don't detect a lot of self-censorship therein.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
5. I think the underlying issue is that many have lost faith in the process.
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 08:08 PM
Aug 2014

and believe that the selection of Hillary will happen regardless of what the rank-and-file want.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
6. Let the candidates show up and declare at the proper time.
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 08:10 PM
Aug 2014

Also, know the majority may not feel as much love for the candidate you think may be the best. Let them stand the test, bring their record to the table and defend it, we have not had the midterm elections, we don't need three years of running a campaign similar to the GOP.

PFunk

(876 posts)
8. Im sorry but I'm past voting for "the lesser of two evils" thing. But I wll say this ...
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 09:13 PM
Aug 2014

I will prefer and will work for another candidate and/or challenger to replace her. But if my all counts Hillary is nominated then I will vote 3rd party (probably Green) instead while still voting for deserving dems. Not be what some here want but hey this pragmatic FDR-type liberal dem don't do lock step-or vote for DINO's (which what Hillary is in my opinion). Especially those who are trying to force her on to us.

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