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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy do women (mostly) NOT pay for sex?
I think it's because in an industrialized society, prolonged battery shortages are rare.
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)You got me.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)and more prone to wanting to screw around.
There are exceptions to the rule, but they just that, exception.
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LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)msongs
(67,441 posts)R B Garr
(16,976 posts)Warpy
(111,339 posts)and you always know where he's been--and where he is.
moriah
(8,311 posts)And never leaves the toilet seat up.
Warpy
(111,339 posts)instead of what he wants.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)...I kid, i kid.
Whatever torques your chassis, your bizniz and not none o mine.
Wounded Bear
(58,708 posts)just not with money.
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)Iggo
(47,565 posts)jmowreader
(50,562 posts)grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)johnlucas
(1,250 posts)And women are in control of the sales.
Demand exceeds supply so the suppliers can set their prices comfortably.
Women have the supply by the way.
Biological bias. It's what it is.
John Lucas
moriah
(8,311 posts).... than they do BOGs for men.
LloydS of New London
(355 posts)And we won't argue!
99Forever
(14,524 posts)... they don't have to.
TheKentuckian
(25,029 posts)I know a few things - women aren't going to overpay for something so available, that there is no way to make change for a penny, that there are very few guys will not let the 8/10 of a penny slide anyway, and probably almost every time a woman has mentioned money the guy reached for his wallet, unable to even comprehend that it was an offer.
malaise
(269,157 posts)The lil boy pulled out his penis and told her that she doesn't have one of those so she was inferior.
She ran home to her mother all upset. Her mother told her go and tell Johnny that with what she had she could have as many of those as she wanted.
Lex
(34,108 posts)Econ 101.
treestar
(82,383 posts)And when we are too old/ugly/fat we accept that we won't get it and don't feel entitled.
Men can find better ways to make money.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)davidn3600
(6,342 posts)A man that wants sex has to go through all the dating rituals and prove to the woman he is a worthy suitor worth the woman's time and attention. Men might pay a prostitute for sex in order to bypass having to jump through all those hoops and just get right down to the sex.
In comparison, a woman that just wants sex usually just has to ask.
intaglio
(8,170 posts)... don't you? That same nonsense is used by MGTOW and incel misogynists; it also shows up on 4chan and redpill reddit.
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davidn3600
(6,342 posts)Im describing stereotypical dating habits which is very common in the western world for generations. It's not true for everyone in every situation. But in general, this is the typical dating habit.
A man asks out a woman for a date. They go out to dinner or a movie or a walk in the park or whatever. And then it advances on more dates if they like each other. They become a couple and start having sex. They move in together. Then they get married.
This is how it works...where am I wrong in this process?
intaglio
(8,170 posts)No
Both sexes have people who are older or younger, physically attractive and ugly, both have people with character flaws, both have members with personal hygiene problems but in your world, somehow, the women in these categories "only have to ask for it".
Utter and complete bunk based on fantastic lies and a sense that men deserve to have sexual intercourse.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)In your world, you seem to think men only want stick-thin Victoria's Secret models. If that's what you believe, you don't know men at all.
intaglio
(8,170 posts)and, of course, a lie as my sigoth would inform you if she could be bothered to interact with fools like yourself
You just cannot see men as human, in your mind all men are sexually driven and incapable of making choices. Sorry to disillusion you but men are not all automata rutting with whoever offers themselves. Similarly women are not the mindless sex machines your worldview makes them out to be.
Liberal MRA
(6 posts)...women do have an advantage when it comes to dating and seeking casual sex. On any dating or adult personals site, there are far more men than women, and women are far more likely to be contacted by a member of the opposite sex than men are.
It's the same in any social setting, such as a bar or a party. Women are far less likely to initiate contact than men, so the risk of rejection is usually always on the man. This isn't based on "fantastic lies and a sense that men deserve to have sexual intercourse", it's based on reality and a sense that the dating and mating game is rigged in women's favor.
intaglio
(8,170 posts)"women do have an advantage ..."; when it comes to being sexually assaulted and subjected to social pressure to "perform"
"On any adult dating or personals site ..."; if what you say is true that just means there are fewer women using such sites, maybe because they are constantly being propositioned by creeps
"women far more likely to be contacted ..."; if what you say is true then that is to be expected,
"Women are far less likely to initiate contact than men ..."; maybe that's because they don't want to initiate contact with creeps
All you are saying displays your utter contempt for women and your inability to treat them as any more than sex toys. Go and visit AVfM and Paul Elam's conceited little crowd of numptys, you'll find yourself at home.
Squinch
(51,007 posts)eridani
(51,907 posts)--getting the shit beaten out of you and possibly killed, right?
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)...and only *maybe* and only for *some women*, that could be true if she doesn't care who she has sex with.
Trust me, women hear "no" too. And it is just as disappointing and just as frustrating.
But what I said when it has happened to me, which is what many women say is, "OK, hey, that particular guy isn't that into me. Bummer." We don't do what many men do, which is take that evidence and spin it into a systemic problem, and castigate the entire population of the "opposite" sex for being stingy assholes who won't "put out".
This fantasy that women can just get sex with someone they want anytime the want it would be positively hilarious if it weren't so damaging.
If the men who engage in this kind of complaining lowered their standards and treated women like people and not like fucktoys, they might get laid once in a while.
BainsBane
(53,066 posts)can't be bought. If you just want to get off, the vibrator does the trick. The rest is about something else that money can't buy.
I also think women are less gullible. Men will watch porn or have sex with a prostitute and actually believe the woman/girl is into it, turned on by him. Women just aren't that stupid. They know if a guy is into them, they don't have to pay him.
to the "men will watch porn or have sex with a prostitute and actually believe the woman/girl is into it." Really, so gullible. What a lofty opinion they have of themselves. I almost envy it. The last time I had a racy dream, I had a harem of men and commanded them to do this and that and they refused with a "Yuck, ewwww, that's gross, I'm not doing that!" Sigh...
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)I think development differences and how culture handles them are most likely to blame. Boys hit puberty, they enter this really hyper sexualized environment, while girls who hit puberty are shamed. Segregating women over periods has literally been the way human society has dealt with women for much of its existence. This is changing with a more sex-positive culture and women are being allowed to appreciate more sexualized media as time goes on. I don't know if that would be a positive trend or if it'd be better to adopt a more puritian type of sexual approach like in The Dispossessed.
RandySF
(59,225 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)And to all the men on this thread who said women can just whistle for it? Men reject women for sex all of the time-they probably call it something else. But ask any woman, pretty much all of us will have a story.