First polling I've seen with Elizabeth Warren vs. Republican Opponents.

[wyldwolf]

Zogby - yes, I know. I've never put much stock in John Zogby. Yet, this poll is inline with other recent polling of Hillary Clinton vs. GOP candidates. Does that make the Marist poll an outlier? We'll see when the next mainstream polling results hit (I believe) next week.

Still, I think the Zogby polling is note-worthy because a major pollster has included Warren.

Ms. Warren runs about even with all of the GOP candidates: 34% to 36% against Bush; 34% to 35% against Paul; 34% to 37% vs. Christie; 36% to 38% against Romney: 35% to 33% vs. Huckabee; and 35% to 31% against Rubio.

While about a third of the voters are undecided, it is important that none of the GOP contenders is able to pick up ground against the lesser known and more ideological Warren.

That last line, I believe, says plenty about the Democratic brand in general and Warren in particular. Good news on both counts. On the Hillary front, though:

She beats former Florida Governor Jeb Bush 49% to 36%; Kentucky Senator Rand Paul 50% to 34%; New Jersey Governor Chris Christie 47% to 35%; former Massachusetts Governor and 2012 GOP standard-bearer Mitt Romney 50% to 35%; former Arkansas Governor and Fox News host Mike Huckabee 49% to 33%; and Florida Senator Marco Rubio 51% to 29%. As we can see, she hovers around the 50% mark against each challenger while none of her putative opponents receives 40%.

Aside from holding solidly on to the Democratic base of young voters, Hispanics, African Americans, and Creative Class voters, what is most striking is how much better she does among Democrats than her opponents do among Republicans. In every test case, Mrs. Clinton polls anywhere from 81% to 88% of her fellow Democrats, while no GOP candidate (including Romney or Paul) achieves more than 77% of Republican support.

Of even greater significance is that Mrs. Clinton receives at least 80% of liberal support while no Republican gets higher than 69% of conservative support. At the same time, Mrs. Clinton is within two points in either direction among white voters, a formula for GOP disaster if that continues among this shrinking demographic within the electorate. And, for icing on the cake, she outpolls even Mr. Rubio 61% to 24% among Hispanics.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnzogby/2014/08/22/hillary-wallops-all-republicans-elizabeth-warren-doesnt/

[DonViejo]

1. Very interesting...

Of even greater significance is that Mrs. Clinton receives at least 80% of liberal support while no Republican gets higher than 69% of conservative support. At the same time, Mrs. Clinton is within two points in either direction among white voters, a formula for GOP disaster if that continues among this shrinking demographic within the electorate. And, for icing on the cake, she outpolls even Mr. Rubio 61% to 24% among Hispanics.

[vadermike]

3. interesting

I beleive this a interseting article.. i still think there should be challengers in the primary , it will help the party.. I am a strong President Obama supporter and I will be supporting Mrs. Clinton in '16 (assuming she runs, whihc looks increasingly likely) Mrs. Warren , we will need her in the Senate.. Mrs. Clinton is not perfect and neither is the President.. the GOP have a huge demographic probelm that will not solve by '16 .. unless they moderate with the Hispanic population etc.. they will lose again in '16 IMO.. it seems whatever they can throw at Hillary it is not working.. i am sure she can make mistakes like anyone else... but geez.. The only way for them to win against Hillary in '16 i think would be to gerrymander the electoral college and even then , i don't think they could swing it.. she is a unique candidate and it seems people are willing to give her alot of slack... i am sure she will learn from this book tour etc.. the Clintons are very good at this sort of thing.. and agressive.. which is hat we will need against the GOP... also i beleive we will get back the Senate if we lose it this cycle, or increase our majority with Mrs. Clinton at the Top of the ticket and regain the House in '16 imo.....Expect the GOP to get really desperate and say really crazy stuff , if she runs...!!

[stevenleser]

2. Interesting stuff. K&R nt

[Tarheel_Dem]

4. If Hillary wants the nomination, she's sure to get it this time. There are no Barack Obama(s)......

waiting in the wings. Do any of these polls ever include Sanders? He makes noise, from time to time, about running on a label he's never embraced before.

[wyldwolf]

5. none of I've seen have included Sanders. This is the first I've seen with Warren.

I'm not sure he'd poll well. The word 'socialist' still carries a stigma - even among those who have embraced socialism.

[Tarheel_Dem]

6. I'm not sure why, other than money, that Bernie would want to embrace a party label he's avoided....

all these years.

[4now]

7. I sure hope we get a choice in the primaries

[BrotherIvan]

8. At least 30% of this country are fucking loons

Looks at that list: Bush, Paul, Christie, Romney???????? And people said they would vote for these losers? Estamos jodidos.

[Laelth]

9. k&r for Elizabeth Warren. n/t

-Laelth

[Eleanors38]

10. Indicates significant name recognition for Warren...

if the polling sample is half-way decent. Not as high as Hillary, but surprisingly strong.

[SheilaT]

11. Zogby for a while was the single most reliable poll out there.

In 2004 John Zogby said that John Kerry would win. He didn't qualify his statement, and he said it on one of the late night talk shows, possibly Jay Leno. After election, Mr Zogby more or less disappeared and never clarified, refuted, or backed up his statement. I suspect he was at that point sufficiently beholden to various interests that he simply wasn't going to stand by what he'd said. Too bad. Since then the Zogby polling seems to have drifted right, but I honestly no longer pay any attention to him.

FWIW, he and I went to kindergarten and first grade together, although I barely recall him, except for having a strange last name.