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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLawyer...fears his client's horns and '666' tattoo could turn jurors against him
A Massachusetts lawyer is concerned that it will be difficult to find impartial jurors for an upcoming murder trial given his clients unique appearance, namely, implanted horns and a satanic tattoo.
Caius Veiovis, 33, is the third suspect to face trial in the August 2011 slayings of David Glasser, Edward Frampton and Robert Chadwell.
Veiovis' signature look includes two rows of bumps resembling horns protruding from his forehead, a 666 tattoo between them, and other facial and neck tattoos. He also had surgically altered the shape of his ears to make them elf-like.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2732107/Lawyer-suspect-triple-murder-fears-client-s-horns-666-tattoo-turn-jurors-against-him.html#ixzz3BA19rEFG
elleng
(130,974 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)If this isn't fake, it's child abuse.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)Glassunion
(10,201 posts)bluesbassman
(19,374 posts)Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)bluesbassman
(19,374 posts)PeteSelman
(1,508 posts)I can see why the lawyer would be concerned. Fair or not, no one is going to give this goof the benefit of the doubt.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)FYI
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)...however, that's some serious self-mutilation.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)...but, can we all completely look past our biases (and possibly revulsion)?
monmouth3
(3,871 posts)Strelnikov_
(7,772 posts)we are DEVO.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)petronius
(26,602 posts)2naSalit
(86,647 posts)Just wow.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)getting something like that done to yourself?
But then I don't even understand massive tattooing & piercing. I guess I'm just too fucking old.
Edited to add--Some people whom I deeply care for & respect are into piercings & whatnot. I don't judge people about it, I just don't understand it.
In the past, most of the people whom I saw with tats/piercings were folks who had had a whole lot of trauma in their lives, & seemed to have gotten the "decorations" at least partly because of the reward functions of the endorphins released die to the tissue injuries. That was certainly true of the many tattooed criminals I did psych evaluations on in past years, but this theory totally breaks down in the present context.
Initech
(100,080 posts)Just what I saw in my own dreams..... CANNOT BELIEVE! !!!
That what I saw that night was real and not just fantasy. .
Cause in my dreams he's always there.
The evil face that twists my mind and brings me to despair. ..
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)Initech
(100,080 posts)For it is a human number. It's number is six hundred and sixty six.
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)Barry Clayton, the Voice Behind Iron Maidens Number of the Beast Intro, Dies
http://loudwire.com/barry-clayton-voice-behind-iron-maiden-number-of-the-beast-intro-dies/?trackback=tsmclip
Aside from uttering words in the intro of a song that is beloved by metal fans, Clayton was long considered a pioneer of black television and radio programming, launching the Black Londoners radio program on the BBC. Clayton produced the show from its 1974 debut until he left in 1988 to join Capital Radio.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)RandiFan1290
(6,237 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)Saw them a few years ago and met Blixa thru a mutual friend.
Great guy, great band, great show!
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)with the Einsturzende Neubauten logo on the crust.
Mmm, that was a good pie.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)Apparently Sid Vicious, while awaiting trial for murder, tried to change his name to Sid Not Really Such A Bad Bloke At All Judge....
sendero
(28,552 posts).... 3 consecutive life terms plus.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)fizzgig
(24,146 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)hodor
Strelnikov_
(7,772 posts)Please tell me Hodor is OK!!
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Hodor
Strelnikov_
(7,772 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,366 posts)ten hours to kill, this song is for you.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)BainsBane
(53,035 posts)He hasn't got a snowball's chance in hell of being acquitted looking like that.
He could cover the tattoos with make up, but he would have to get that shit out of his forehead.
On the bright side, he will probably fare well in prison.
Oakenshield
(614 posts)I mean...what the hell? He injects crap into his forehead to make himself look like a demon, then tats himself up with nordic runes and 666? I don't even want to follow the warped logic this fella is using.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)I wonder if he would find it better to not be present in the courtroom. He could watch it on closed circuit tv and confir with his lawyer during breaks. At least give him the option.
I wonder what it would cost to remove them. Yes he put them in himself but I would be 100% ok with a judge allowing them to be removed at the states expense. It might cost a few grand but a mistrial can cost 50 times as much. If we are going to put somebody away for life thenI dont mind giving him a fair shot (even if one could make a case that he doesnt deserve it. Makeup can cover the tattoo.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)I'd be impartial. But sadly I'm not on the jury.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... of a defendant with a sack over his head? What's the judge going to say to the jury?
"Jury, even though this defendant has guilt written all over his face, I want you to refrain from rushing to that judgement. No, on the contrary, I want you to totally disregard what you see."
They would never be able to seat a jury, because NO ONE would be able to disregard that animal's mug.
OR, he could just ask the jurors to wear sacks on their heads.
Thanks, Siwsan. Now, how am I going to get that out of mind when I go to sleep tonight?
I wish I could unsee this!
Man's inhumanity, to himself. That looks painful. Ouch!
Siwsan
(26,268 posts)At least that's how I picture him.......
lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)Siwsan
(26,268 posts)Let's face it, some books just scream to be judged by their cover.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Okay, maybe he can't grow hair thick enough for a good set of bangs. So he can wear a wig with bangs.
Lots of good choices on e-bay.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Hairpieces-Toupees-/175626/i.html
Siwsan
(26,268 posts)The first photo doesn't do them justice - when he's cleaned up and slightly profile, yikes!
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)I see he's already plucked the pointy things.
valerief
(53,235 posts)VScott
(774 posts)only more mischievous looking.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)I like dogs better.
Strelnikov_
(7,772 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)phil89
(1,043 posts)be Preferable and indicative of character. Gotta love humanity.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)Long before associating with the Hells Angels, Caius Veiovis was already said to be a worshiper of Satan.
Veiovis, 31, along with Adam Hall, 34, both of Pittsfield, and David Chalue, 44, of Springfield, were arrested over the weekend and charged with the kidnapping and murder of three Pittsfield men: David Glasser, Edward Frampton and Robert Chadwell.
The three men had been missing for nearly two weeks, and their bodies were discovered in a trench at an undisclosed location Saturday, according to Berkshire District Attorney David F. Capeless.
Hall, Chalue and Veiovis were charged with three counts each of murder, kidnapping and intimidating a witness.
http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2011/09/caius_veiovis_suspect_in_reput.html
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)It might just work on the jury.
Hippo_Tron
(25,453 posts)His ridiculous choices of facial alterations don't make him a murderer. I'd consider the evidence just as I would for any other defendant.