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gordianot

(15,238 posts)
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 05:07 PM Aug 2014

Officer Wilson "Extraordinary Service in the Line of Duty" finally explained and more troubling.

Video of the presentation shown on Yahoo: http://news.yahoo.com/photos-ferguson-officer-darren-wilson-received-police-award-earlier-this-year-021255893.html

After stopping a "suspicious vehicle" he reached inside and took the keys. I asked my son who is a Police Officer who does that? His answer "Someone who does not care if they get hurt". That runs contrary to any Police training my son ever received.

Out of control Police.

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Officer Wilson "Extraordinary Service in the Line of Duty" finally explained and more troubling. (Original Post) gordianot Aug 2014 OP
It is contrary to most training Lee-Lee Aug 2014 #1
At least he did not have to shoot him/her in the drivers seat they only wrestled. gordianot Aug 2014 #3
Yeah, he also could have just shot out the tires. R B Garr Aug 2014 #19
Extraordinary service?! JaneyVee Aug 2014 #2
All the police are above average alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #5
I shit you not... Chan790 Aug 2014 #8
actually that is possible to happen dsc Aug 2014 #18
Dude apparently likes reaching in and out of car windows alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #4
My son's next line that is how you get your arm removed. gordianot Aug 2014 #6
He's going to have to explain why he decided to make a felony stop through a car window alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #7
DUzy! csziggy Aug 2014 #9
Further: gordianot Aug 2014 #10
His great stupendous triumph involved preventing a sale of marijuana aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #11
Weed figures huge bust definitely worth sticking your arm in a car window. gordianot Aug 2014 #12
Our hero! TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #13
Supposedly, one of the principal ways police departments are paying for military arsenals aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #15
Of course. Vicious cycle. TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #16
Maybe he was going to steal the car. The F'edPD clearly shake down the citizens for their salaries underpants Aug 2014 #14
Such a brave asshole who shot down an armed kid in the street with Cha Aug 2014 #17
 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
1. It is contrary to most training
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 05:13 PM
Aug 2014

But as with anything its all situational and a judgement call.

If it did stop a person from leaving, he may have judged it worth the risk,

I see nothing "troubling" here, except people looking to make every single little detail out to be "troubling"

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
3. At least he did not have to shoot him/her in the drivers seat they only wrestled.
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 05:23 PM
Aug 2014

The kid he wrestled two weeks ago got shot when they wrestled did not work so well.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
8. I shit you not...
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 05:37 PM
Aug 2014

I once sat in an education-related meeting when I was a literacy activist where someone proposed firing any teacher whose class was not better than 60% above-average for grade-level compared to peers. Not compared to national average...peers. If that's not clear enough: He proposed firing any teacher 60% of whose students were not above-average proficiency where average is "the average reading-proficiency of the class."

I may have been a literacy educator...but I surely know a person who needs math tutoring when I see one.

That or I was, unbeknownst, in Lake Wobegon where all the students are above-average.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
18. actually that is possible to happen
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 10:01 PM
Aug 2014

if average is defined as mean but I doubt that would make one a good teacher. It would require having one or more very low scoring kids to lower the average far enough below the median to gain the 10 percent of the kids you would need to have 60 percent be above the mean. Or if it were to be rewritten slightly to at or above then it could require a class all of whose students scored the same score on the test. Again, not such a great teacher.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
7. He's going to have to explain why he decided to make a felony stop through a car window
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 05:35 PM
Aug 2014


Wilson: Then I realized that these may be the suspects from a Robbery 2, so I pulled up next to them and rolled down my window to apprehend the 6'4" 290 pound suspect.

Prosecutor: And you have acted heroically through an open car window before, haven't you?

Wilson: Yes.

Prosecutor: And you even received a commendation for your heroic trans-car-window actions against dangerous criminals, haven't you?

Wilson: Yes.

Defense Attorney: Your honor, permission to treat prosecutor as a friendly witness?

Judge: Granted.

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
10. Further:
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 05:44 PM
Aug 2014

Prosecutor: Which arm did you use when you reached in the car?

Wilson: My dominant right/left arm sir.

Prosecutor: Damn, how would you have shot him if you had to?

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
11. His great stupendous triumph involved preventing a sale of marijuana
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 05:52 PM
Aug 2014

According to ABC news, that's what this Texas born officer's great victory and commendation involved. As Archie Bunker would say: 'whooptie doo!"

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/picture-emerges-officer-ferguson-shooting-25057305

"...During a Ferguson City Council meeting in February, Wilson got special recognition from Jackson for what the chief said then was his role in responding to a report of a suspicious vehicle, then struggling with the driver and detaining him for arrest until help arrived. Jackson said the suspect was preparing a large quantity of marijuana for sale. His proclamation in hand, according a video of the meeting obtained Tuesday by the AP, Wilson returned to his seat with a broad grin. ..."

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
13. Our hero!
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 06:14 PM
Aug 2014

Q: What would our intrepid "security forces" do without the DRUG WAR?

A: jack shit to justify their budgets or numbers, pissing off their fan club writing a billion tickets a month to demonstrate any purpose in line with their present costs.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
15. Supposedly, one of the principal ways police departments are paying for military arsenals
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 06:30 PM
Aug 2014

is through drug war asset forfeitures, where according to a dubious informant, the SWAT team goes in and the home owner finds himself having his house, car, and the clothes off his back taken and sold, whether he had drugs or not. Under the forfeiture laws, the police can take your property and the burden is on you to take them to court to prove your innocence, which becomes hard when you lose everything of value and can no longer afford an attorney. It's an obscene, mafia-like racket.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/14/11-ways-the-militarization-of-police-is-wreaking-havoc-on-innocent-americans/

11 ways the militarization of police is wreaking havoc on innocent Americans

"...8. Asset forfeitures are funding police militarization. In June, AlterNet’s Aaron Cantu outlined how civil asset forfeiture laws work.

“It’s a legal fiction spun up hundreds of years ago to give the state the power to convict a person’s property of a crime, or at least, implicate its involvement in the committing of a crime. When that happened, the property was to be legally seized by the state,” wrote Cantu. He went on to explain that law enforcement justifies the seizing of property and cash as a way to break up narcotics rings’ infrastructure. But it can also be used in cases where a person is not convicted, or even charged with, a crime.

Asset forfeitures bring in millions of dollars for police agencies, who then spend the money for their own uses. And for some police departments, it goes to militarizing their police force.

New Yorker reporter Sarah Stillman, who penned a deeply reported piece on asset forfeitures,wrote in August 2013 that “thousands of police departments nationwide have recently acquired stun grenades, armored tanks, counterattack vehicles, and other paramilitary equipment, much of it purchased with asset-forfeiture funds.” So SWAT teams have an incentive to conduct raids where they seize property and cash. That money can then go into their budgets for more weapons. ..."


I wonder if the vehicle stopped by Darren Wilson carrying marijuana for sale wasn't forfeited by the owner to buy a few grenade launchers for the Ferguson P.D.

underpants

(182,826 posts)
14. Maybe he was going to steal the car. The F'edPD clearly shake down the citizens for their salaries
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 06:16 PM
Aug 2014

24,000 arrest warrants for 12,000 individuals in 2013. The town has 23,000 people in it. The 2nd largest revenue source for that F'ed up town.

Cha

(297,286 posts)
17. Such a brave asshole who shot down an armed kid in the street with
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 09:47 PM
Aug 2014

the coup de grâce a couple of kill shots to his head.

Michael Brown

thank you, gordianot

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