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Stellar

(5,644 posts)
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 11:43 AM Aug 2014

White-on-white murder in America is out of control

White-on-white murder in America is out of control

http://www.vox.com/2014/8/21/6053811/white-on-white-murder


"Blacks represent 13% of the population but commit 50% of the murders; 90% of black victims are murdered by other blacks," writes Time's Joe Klein, calling for "provocative" thinking on race in America. "The facts suggest that history is not enough to explain this social disaster."

Yet the disturbing truth, according to the FBI's most recent homicide statistics, is that the United States is in the wake of an epidemic of white-on-white crime. Back in 2011, the most recent year for which data is available, a staggering 83 percent of white murder victims were killed by fellow Caucasians.

This is not to say that white people are inherently prone to violence. Most whites, obviously, manage to get through life without murdering anyone. And there are many countries full of white people — Norway, Iceland, France, Denmark, New Zealand, and the United Kingdom — where white people murder each other at a much lower rate than you see here in the United States.

On the other hand, although people often see criminal behavior as a symptom of poverty, the quantity of murder committed by white people specifically in the United States casts some doubt on this. Per capita GDP is considerably higher here than in France — and the white population in America is considerably richer than the national average — and yet we have more white murderers.


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Stellar

(5,644 posts)
2. Black on Black crime in Chicago was what
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 06:44 PM
Aug 2014

FOX news wanted to talk about after Michael Brown was murdered by Darren Wilson. As if to say, don't worry about the police killing black people until they get their crimes against one another straightened out. This is probably the first article that I've read about white-on-white crime. It's not just blacks killing blacks...white are doing the same to one another.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
5. Please don't attack the "Poverty is the root of crime" meme.
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 07:59 PM
Aug 2014

Even if it is not true, it is still a useful tool to attack the power structure.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
6. Most murder victims are killed by someone personally known to them
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 08:03 PM
Aug 2014

given the fact that the USA is still very much socially segregated in a lot of ways this isn't at all surprising.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
7. As a white man, I am less scared of going to Detroit than some blacks I know
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 09:13 PM
Aug 2014

Granted, I am not going to hang out at 7 Mile and Gratiot at 1 am and yell "Hey I have a pocket full of money!" (nor would I do that at Maple and Old Woodward in Bham), but the reality is, most murders are people who know each other, or feuding with another gang over turf and respect.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
9. I lived for about 3 years (2009-2012) in a pretty bad part of West Oakland, CA.
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 09:36 PM
Aug 2014

And although there were frequent shootings within a few blocks of me, I never ran into too many problems myself.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
8. "Poverty=crime" has always been an oversimplification anyway.
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 09:30 PM
Aug 2014

Especially when it comes to crimes like spousal abuse and murder.

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