FOIA the ACLU of Missouri filed to obtain "missing" Incident Report? They finally received it...

[kpete]

The FOIA the ACLU of Missouri filed to obtain that "missing" Incident Report?

They finally received the report, read carefully.



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https://twitter.com/aclu_mo/statuses/502201858098614272
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/22/1323712/-The-missing-Ferguson-PD-Incident-Report-on-the-death-of-Michael-Brown-omg

[Lee-Lee]

1. Not sure what you are seeing here

If you are getting all worked up because the word homicide is used, cool your jets.

Homicide is used any time one person kills another. It doesn't equal murder, but is a specific legal term that means one persons actions resulted in the death of another. That isn't in dispute here.

If a rapist kills a woman after he gets what he wants, that is homicide. If the rape victim kills him in self defense, still homicide.

[VanGoghRocks]

14. Since the OP is not responding, please allow me to tell you:

What day was Michael Brown killed: August 9, 2014
What day was this County report entered\created: August 19, 2014

WTF? 10 days during which the country and world were convulsed by the story and the County's report isn't even created until August 19??????

Time for a Special Prosecutor. McCulloch MUST recuse himself.

[HooptieWagon]

2. Thats StLC, missing report is FPD.

And apparently Wilson never wrote a report at all.

Wilson was the only cop on scene at time of shooting. He clammed up. The eye witnesses weren't interviewed by police at the time (which was why they went on TV to get heard). So, where exactly did investigating officers get their "official" story from?

[SweetieD]

11. Someone wrote a report from Ferguson.Because there was a Ferguson Police Report #2014-12391

that was referenced in the Store Robbery police report documents released last week.

[HooptieWagon]

13. Yes, and FPD is not producing it.

[JimDandy]

15. That appears to be what is happening.

Report #14-12391 hasn't necessarily been scrubbed...

[SwankyXomb]

16. Can't scrub what doesn't exist

[SweetieD]

17. Scrubbed or Redacted?

The ACLU - MO organization updated their website and the Ferguson PD report was received by them last night.

BUT it basically has no information. It has been redacted so heavily you don't even know what the report is about.

http://www.aclu-mo.org/files/4314/0871/7727/Ferguson_Police_incident_report.pdf

[bklyncowgirl]

18. WTF: Call Dispatched as: 4230 Disturbance / in progress

I do not understand this at all. This was a shooting.

If you believe the police version (and I don't) it was an assault on a police officer that ended in the officer taking the life of the person who assaulted him.

[Rex]

3. OMG!

[riqster]

4. Muddies the water to an even greater extent.

[Ms. Toad]

5. The call to dispatch was made 41 minutes after the shooting.

Time of incident 12:02 PM
Time of call to dispatch 12:43 PM

[Lee-Lee]

6. Call to St Louis County

Not to Feruson Dispatch.

Remember this is the St Louis County report, not the Ferguson report.

[MohRokTah]

7. FPD had 41 minutes to effect the cover up.

FPD had 41 minutes of uninterrupted access to ALL evidence prior to St. Louis County being called.

[HooptieWagon]

8. yes, and StLC arrived at 13:30.

My guess is when FPD showed up, Wilson had already clammed up. That was a problem. So FPD called in StLC to investigate as an outside agency. Its also possible FPD didn't have a homicide div personel available at that time, so asked help from StLC.

What is unusual, is that the StLC report wasn't written until 8/19, ten days later. It was approved by supervisor that day, and placed in file next day. Usually reports are required to be written before officer goes home, while memory is still fresh. All that time media and ACLU was asking for the report? It didn't exist.

[Lee-Lee]

9. Its normal in every officer involved shooting to call an outside agency to investigate

Unless it is some big agency like NYPD.

An agency like Ferguson, or any of like size, should never do investigations for officer involved shootings in-house.

[HooptieWagon]

12. To handle the investigation.

However, officers from the involved agency still required to write reports... its where the investigation begins.

If we assume for argument the shooting was justified, Wilson would have told responding FPD and investigating StLC what happened. Responding FPD would have taken notes of the incident scene, presence of witnesses and their names, and Wilson's demeanor... anything relevent, and secured the scene. Investigating StLC would conduct forensics, identify and mark evidence, and interview witnesses. All would have been required to write reports, unless they were uninvolved in investigation, like diverting traffic. Even then, they'd record that they spent 1.5 hrs diverting traffic around a homicide scene in their personal notes.

[kath]

19. is there any evidence that detailed forensics were EVER even done?? By SLCo.or anyone else???

Did the medical examiner ever show up?
Was Mr. Brown's body really just tossed in the back of a PD SUV, rather than the normal procedure of being taken away by the ME's office?

Pretty much everything here seems to have been done outisde of any sort or normal procedure...

[SweetieD]

10. The missing report is Ferguson Police Report Made #2014-12391 which haven't been released