Ferguson Cop Who Killed Mike Brown Shot More Bullets Than The Entire British Police Force In A YEAR

[Fred Sanders]

The militarization of the public has led to the militarization of the police force that has to deal with all those 300,000,000 guns...obviously they are afraid of the locked and loaded public, who would not be? All those guns have to be somewhere and they could be anywhere, anytime.

Want to end militarization of the police, end the militarization of the public.

Ever watch that Alaska Troopers show? Those guys are terrified of all the guns and are not shy about saying so...reality of gun loving America and those tasked to control the insanity.

Fewer lethal weapons, fewer shootings using said lethal weapons....duh.

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Ferguson Cop Who Killed Mike Brown Shot More Bullets Than The Entire British Police Force Did Last Year


http://crooksandliars.com/2014/08/ferguson-cop-who-killed-mike-brown-shot

"Last year, in total, British police officers actually fired their weapons three times. The number of people fatally shot was zero. In 2012 the figure was just one. Even after adjusting for the smaller size of Britain's population, British citizens are around 100 times less likely to be shot by a police officer than Americans. Between 2010 and 2014 the police force of one small American city, Albuquerque in New Mexico, shot and killed 23 civilians; seven times more than the number of Brits killed by all of England and Wales's 43 forces during the same period.

The explanation for this gap is simple. In Britain, guns are rare. Only specialist firearms officers carry them; and criminals rarely have access to them. The last time a British police officer was killed by a firearm on duty was in 2012, in a brutal case in Manchester. The annual number of murders by shooting is typically less than 50."
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The homicide rate in the U.S. reached 10.1 per 100,000 in 1974, peaked in 1980 at 10.7 and reached a lower peak in 1991 (10.5). The average murder rate between 1970 and 1976 was 9.4, between 1977 and 1983 it was 9.6, between 1984 and 1990 it was 9, between 1991 and 1997 it was 9.2 and between 1998 and 2004 it was 6.3. In 2004, the murder rate in the U.S. dipped below 6 per 100,000, for the first time since 1966, and as of 2010 stood at 4.8 per 100,000 [33]

Approximately 70 percent of the total murders in the U.S. are committed with firearms, versus about 30 percent in Canada.

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America does not have just a policing problem it has a pervasive and cancerous gun fetish problem, the fetish is as epidemic in the police forces as it is in the public and now everyone is afraid of everyone else.

300,000,000 guns floating around can do that.

A black man is killed every 28 hours by police or vigilantes.

[w4rma]

1. Mike Brown was unarmed. America does have a policing problem. (nt)

[Fred Sanders]

4. I will have to add "just" to my comments, point taken.

[chrisstopher]

2. absolutely amazing

Lots of crazy SOB's out there.
On both sides of the law.

[Rex]

3. White cop with 6 bullets vs. unarmed black teenager with his hands up.

And the M$M is WORKING HARD to discredit the young black man, doing everything in their POWER to make Brown look like a horrible person.

We could learn a lot from the UK Bobbies.

[Fred Sanders]

5. Community policing is possible because the community is not armed to the teeth.

[Rex]

6. Our guys are all para-military commandos now

their police are beat cops, one changed and one never changed.

[rhett o rick]

7. We have a authoritarian (bully) problem. People are raised to believe in the biggest bully.

The police are a big bully and the public so far accepts them killing indiscriminately.

[littlemissmartypants]

13. ^ eom

[alcibiades_mystery]

8. Impossible: I heard Britain was filled with knife-wielding crazies, and you know the only possible

way a police officer can ever deal with a knife wielding crazy is by blasting him with 9 - 12 shots within 25 seconds of encountering him.

[Lenomsky]

25. Sparked my interest :)

Britain does have a knife problem so I looked up the stats and was pleasantly surprised.

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/crime-stats/crime-statistics/period-ending-march-2013/stb-crime--period-ending-march-2013.html#tab-Offences-involving-knives-and-sharp-instruments

Firearm offences have dropped from ~10,000 in 2003 to ~5,000 in 2013 but should be noted firearms offences does not mean only actual Guns as includes Tasers and similar drive stun devices, a device used as a blunt instrument or a device used as a threat e.g. a replica gun.

There are guns in the UK but we don't have a gang culture as such (yet) so they are seldom used in anger and as said only specialist police units have access to Guns.

[Cha]

9. Darren Wilson is a murderer with a badge.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

27. And a coward in uniform.

[WillyT]

10. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!

[Jefferson23]

11. Sickening. K&R

[world wide wally]

12. As police behavior shows...it seems to be that shooting is the first resort. Not the last

And the OP is absolutely right about the gun fetsh culture permeating every aspect of our once great country.

[wisteria]

14. The British police don't carry weapons, so what is your point.

Britain is not the US, our way of life and laws and government are different. We will never disarm our law enforcement here. It is a sure road to chaos and danger.

[Logical]

16. So you think it is working fine here? nt

[wisteria]

32. I didn't say that, I just said that this suggestion would not work here.

[mwooldri]

19. As sure as heck they do!

Most are not armed with guns, but specialist sqads exist for when armed force is called for.

Also I like to think we (my UK side) have decent community policing. When a new station officer started at our local police station (sadly now closed) we were informed through the mail. Would that happen here in the USA?

[wisteria]

31. Yeah, as you said special forces. I don't think the original post was about these forces.

[bowens43]

26. ROFLMA!!!! This is satire, right?

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

28. Not even good satire. Shallow thought process. Good satire requires more insight.

[wisteria]

34. Insult me all you want, I was stating facts.

Facts are important things. even when you want to believe otherwise. Now, you know what is funny, thinking our law enforcement could simple not carry guns, and everything would be ok- that is shallow thinking.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

35. Um, yeah. You stated some facts.

Britain is not the US.

No shit, Sherlock. What else ya got?

Our way of life and laws and government are different.

Well, actually, our ways of life and governments are in many ways similar. One big difference one might notice, however, is that there are loads of shooting deaths here in our way of life and government as opposed to in their way of life and government. I wonder if you think it might ever be advisable to tweak a nation's way of life in an effort to make some improvements. Or do you believe that what is must never be changed?

Then you said:

We will never disarm our law enforcement here. It is a sure road to chaos and danger.

Followed by:

Now, you know what is funny, thinking our law enforcement could simple not carry guns, and everything would be ok- that is shallow thinking.

Further proof of the shallow thinking and lack of insight I mentioned earlier. I doubt most DUers would seriously suggest we "simple" disarm law enforcement. However, some deeper thought could lead to insight as to how the facts presented in the OP might indicate that the possibility of an improvement exists in the matter of the large number of shootings occurring in the USA. Give that a try and see what you can come up with.

[wisteria]

33. I fail to see what was funny. I was expressing my opinion.

I lived in England for a while. The original poster was actually stating the obvious, knowing that regular law enforcement do not carry guns. Maybe you think it is funny, because there are people who don't agree with you.

[LanternWaste]

29. As chaotic and as dangerous as Great Britain...

" It is a sure road to chaos and danger..."

As chaotic and as dangerous as Great Britain...

[ncjustice80]

38. The only danger would be to the police...

Who wouldnt be free to bully and murder black men indiscimately anymore. I say disarm the police NOW. NO GUNS NO VESTS.

[christx30]

15. And there are those that say

that the militiarization of the police is why non-police arm themselves. A show of force has been shown to cause law enforcement to back down. Unarmed people are beaten, tear gassed, and murdered by the cops.

[BrotherIvan]

17. Exactly right

The small towns with tanks and armored vehicles use them primarily to serve warrants. Why? Because they never know what kind of arsenal they're going to encounter. It is the excuse to keep ramping up the weapons and violence. DISARM.

[HereSince1628]

18. Yes, security concerns of PD's is a factor, but it isn't really protection from US citizens

that drove the police got so militarized. Yes, being ready to confront domestic events involving guns with more guns is part of it.

But I suggest that FEAR of confronting well armed opponents wasn't limited to a fear of armed Americans.

I grew up in Chicagoland, where there is a long history of well armed gangs...who had military grade weapons. In the 1970's, special weapons and tactics (SWAT) teams emerged across the nation as a response to well armed criminal element. Because cities were convinced that they needed them by people who marketed FEAR.

After 911 attitudes changed about the risks that police might be involved in facing. The FEAR became police forces might be forced to provide first response to acts of terror of by well armed jihadists. That wasn't so much based on a history of facing such risk. It was based on FEAR, and the decision to make police departments more capable were put in place based on that FEAR

The department of Homeland Security was created.

It pays people to consider risks, which is to say it bolsters security, by considering things that can be FEARED. HSD developed training programs that militarized the approaches taken by police department and it created a conduit, and funding, for moving military weapons to police departments. Arms manufacturers profited, municipal government felt it had done it's patriotic duty, and police prepared for first response service domestic war-fighting.

To my knowledge few American police vehicles have ever been ambushed by an improvised explosive device. But cities have them.

Sheriff Arpaio has a howitzer, so that his force can launch munitions at targets miles away. To my knowledge no police force in America has ever needed to bombard criminals with HE, anti-personnel canisters or chemical munitions by cannonade, but Sheriff Joe is ready should he need to do just that.

But, even so, it isn't really the presence of these military weapons that -causes- police forces to dress with Ninja style face masks and break into the wrong residences without warning under the cover of flash-bangs forcing elderly milk toters to their stomachs.

That's ATTITUDE that is promoted as preparedness to deal in an intimidating manner that suppresses the civilian population. Intimidation is about FEAR.

FEAR is the common thread in this. FEAR justifies a wide variety of violent behaviors in the name of self-defense. FEAR turns out to be important to the violent behavior of the diagnosed mentally ill, criminals, private citizens seeking home-security, police forces, state militias/national guards, and the national military.

OUr problems no doubt include the presence of guns... But it also undeniably involves our governments' perceptions of FEAR, perceptions that in our jingoistic time have grown all out of proportion to risk. A perception that security must be provided in a manner that subjugates Liberty in order to deal with irrational perceptions of fear. A perception that a camoflaged man with an assault rifle seated in the turret of a humvee or mrap is iconic of a protective hero, a perception that we must live under the watchful eyes of such a hero.

[Fred Sanders]

20. Well said. FEAR was used by Bush and co. for war, and then it was used to militarize the police.

[Fred Sanders]

22. And I have a feeling you are a cop who does not like the truth of my post.

A badge is not a license to kill, cops are trained like for 6 months then think themselves James Bond.

If you do not accept the dangers of the job, then do not do it. Same with soldiers.

By the way there are many jobs far more dangerous than cop, and they have no weapons.

Fishermen for one.

Look forward to your second post....I will get back to you later......going golfing.....

[PatrynXX]

23. hence when Blacks do a Riot....

they don't seem to have guns.

but if so called Tea Party Gun Wimps bothered to. they'd be an armed forced. Nobody would bring in the swat heck no. Swat would be scared to death..

[PatrynXX]

24. do find it ironic

the stores don't TRUST the cops to protect their stores but blacks are protecting the stores.. oh well that musta irritated the KKK so of course they claimed they were going there to protect the white stores. um you know Blacks are there protecting the stores. oops.. Cops wouldn't care..

[Spitfire of ATJ]

30. So much for our tourism industry.

[RunAwayGranny]

36. Second Amendment Rights Means the Guns are Staying

I agree with you, but you'll never end the militarization of the public due to the Second Amendment rights. The Americans are keeping their guns and the senseless killings will continue.

[TNNurse]

37. Just saw a sign

On Huffington Post. "Darren Wilson is 100% innocent until proven guilty". He is, so was Michael Brown, but Darren Wilson took that right away from him. Are they too racist to understand that? Racist is becoming my new synonym for stupid.