Eye socket fracture not true....

[alsame]

being reported now on CNN by Don Lemon. Shooter had a swollen face, that's the extent of his injuries.

Referring to Darren Wilson.

Video at link, for some reason I can't embed it

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2014/08/21/nr-lemon-grace-officers-broken-eye-socket-claim-false.cnn.html

[uponit7771]

1. Yeah, the pathologist that examined Brown said no sign of struggle... Browns fist would've been

... messed up if he punched the guy hard enough to break his eye socket...

[BaggersRDumb]

2. And the swollen face could have come at the station afterwards, LOOK, nothing these

teaparty cops say is true, nothing.

Nothing the county prosecutor says will be true, etc.

[merrily]

11. If I killed an unarmed kid about to start college, I would

have been very messed up before I got to the station house.

No matter how hard I had to hit myself.

[unblock]

57. that's what a cop's partner is for.

[JaydenD]

18. My first thought too, someone other than Brown swelled the fucker's face up.

or he did it himself (which probably can be determined by an expect, angles and stuff)

Some may think guffaw at this 'conspiracy theory', but I guffaw back - what makes anyone think these people have any honesty or integrity after all we have heard?

[tblue37]

32. I bet he smacked his face into the car door or the frame of the car as

he jumped out to attack Michael Brown.

The autopsies--2 so far, a third to come--found no sign of swelling, abrasion, blood, or skin cells on Brown's hands. It seems pretty evident that Brown did not hit Wilson.

[BaggersRDumb]

37. I am laughing at the thought if this was AA cop killing a white rich kid in Bel Air

there would be ZERO discussion about all these types of things, think about how differently that would go down in the media and with the idiot moron bagger assholes.

[YarnAddict]

48. Like this?

Same situation, very little media attention.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/58313255-78/burbank-police-taylor-officer.html.csp

[Travis_0004]

60. Kind of a glaring difference

People are letting the investigation run its course before passing judgement.

[YarnAddict]

64. Yup. n/t

[BronxBoy]

71. There's also a body cam....

That recorded the whole event. Big difference from this case

[LiberalArkie]

65. Because the AA cop would have be killed before he ever made it back to HQ

[arcane1]

3. This dumb-ass hit himself in the face with his own car door, I bet.

[uponit7771]

51. +1

[Bobbie Jo]

54. Yep, and that probably

pissed him off even more.

[ReRe]

78. Exactly. n/t

[VanillaRhapsody]

4. He frikken hit his head on the way out of the car....

or he had his buddies rough him up...

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

5. I just saw that

Nancy Grace was also on CNN at the same time, nose flaps flaring. Thought she was going to levitate and nose flap around the room via her nose wings. Of course she sung the praises of prosecutor McCullough because he lost a loved one to violence, like her.

[randome]

20. 'Nose wings.'

[hr][font color="blue"][center]TECT in the name of the Representative approves of this post.[/center][/font][hr]

[BlueCaliDem]

30. "Thought she was going to levitate and nose flap around the room via her nose wings"

[tblue37]

33. DUzy! nt

[nolabear]

66. Abso-DUzy-lutely!

I will never see her without seeing her nose flapping around the room again.

[malaise]

99. Bwaaaaaaaaah hahahahaha

Too good

[Killeroctopus]

6. Jesus Christ this is really fucking amazing.

The Washington Post is reporting that a friend of the family sad Wilson thought Brown was on drugs.


WHAT?

WHAT?

He was acting like he was on drugs, which explains why you shot him and he kept charging. Good lord that is beyond fucking bat shit and racist. This police department is fucking CORRUPT AS HELL!!! They are fucking lying. Lying their asses off.

[frylock]

82. i'm going to withhold judgement till i hear from the friend of the girl that saw that one guy..

talking to someone at the convenience mart in 2005 who played Little League with Wilson's nephew.

[bench scientist]

100. it's the only responsible thing to do!

[toddwv]

92. Well, in the officer's defense,

People were watching so he couldn't plant a weapon or sprinkle crack on the man he just shot.

[arcane1]

7. Remember "slammed my head on the pavement 20 or 30 times"?

Same shit, different asshole.

[tblue37]

35. And just as in the Zimmerman outrage, the liars are claiming

that Brown was observed "throwing MMA style punches" at Wilson.

[frylock]

86. through the window of the patrol car?

yeah, that seems believable.

[yardwork]

46. Exactly. /nt

[redqueen]

59. +1

[treestar]

95. Yes.

Same old thing.

[Louisiana1976]

8. Wilson apparently wants to falsely accuse Brown of slugging him and causing him to shoot in

self-defense.

[Killeroctopus]

17. Mike Brown was also on drugs too.

That horrible marijuana got in to his negro blood,and officer Wilson had to shoot him in order to save the hundreds of 14 year old white girls that he was probably going to rape and enslave and sell to Arabs in Syria that belong to Isis, while he bought guns for the Black Panthers so that they could ride along with that angry monkey Eric Holder and that chimp Obama and "liberate" fucking Boulder Colorado by turning it in to gay communist atheist Muslim Caliphate bent on murdering all white people.

[world wide wally]

21. You figured that out too, huh?

[Killeroctopus]

25. Well it easily explains why he shot the man who was running away.

God.

Thank you for turning the entire US in to a potential war zone when you save your murderous officer Ferguson police department.

[world wide wally]

29. So many lies coming from these people… It reminds me of the saying…

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance… baffle them with bullshit"

[Killeroctopus]

36. And they got a bunch of racists and the New York Times to go along with them.

I was worried there for a bit that this was going to end up with those racists gleefully rejoicing as officer fucknut was actually telling the truth and the Ferguson PD was just filled with people who were exposed to massive amounts of lead as children.

[spinbaby]

24. I think I'm going to like you

Welcome to the zoo.

[frylock]

89. yeah, this guy is good..

I like him already.

[Xipe Totec]

26. LOL!

Do put the sarcasm thingie on your posts until we get to know you better.

Some people might be quick to judge and think you're being serious.

And welcome to DU!

[csziggy]

31. Great post! Welcome to DU!

And since someone suggested the sarcasm thingie - you can either find it by clicking the {...} button at the end of the first smilies window or type the word sarcasm and put a : on either side of it.

It adds a certain flair to brilliant posts such as yours! And I don't mean by that.

[yardwork]

47. ....and confiscate everybody's guns and ban the bible.

You might could work in something aBout FEMA camps too!

Great rant. Welcome to DU.

[JaneyVee]

79. That was good. Welcome.

[heaven05]

87. I would not be surprised

if some of those fux news junkies believed something like this. good one.

[frylock]

90. ah yes. that would be Agenda 22

[alcibiades_mystery]

9. Who's the big winner that posted that bullshit here...and the flunkies who puffed it up?

Are they ever embarrassed, one wonders?

[HooptieWagon]

15. I think his posting status is under review.

[Warren Stupidity]

16. no. They will be back to regurgitate the next bit of disinformation as it arrives at their desks.

[BuelahWitch]

73. They are awaiting with eager anticipation "Josie's" next bullshit revelation n/t

[HooptieWagon]

101. posting priviledges revoked.

[HooptieWagon]

10. Their story is evolving.

I guess the fractured eye socket fairy tale didn't test well in the focus group. This is why they haven't released their official report. Once they do, its a story they're married to.

[alsame]

13. Once the video of him

walking around the body hit the Internet they had to change their story because it was obvious he wasn't badly hurt.

[Iggo]

85. Gonna be hard to explain all that damage his buddies put on him at the station, though.

I believe he's gonna hafta pull a Tiger Woods for a month.

[merrily]

14. A fracture would show up on an X-Ray.

[AngryAmish]

75. Maybe

Depends on the xray, power of the machine etc. Maybe a ct. The definitive imaging is an mri. And that should only be done about now.

An orbital blowout fracture is kinda unique. It is equally claimed by evolution supporters and creationists as proof of their side. But put that to a side right now. A blowout fracture happens when there is a direct blow on an eye, and a finger poke can do it. The eye is "designed" to have the floor give way so the eyeball can quish - all technical terms- without the eyeball exploding and losing the eye. It is darn easy to diagnose, one eye sits a third of an inch below the other eye, assuming a complete fracture .

Oh, a blowout fracture can be comparatively pain free.

The repair surgery is kinda cool. They just slide a bit of plastic under the eyeball. Let me see if I can find one on youtube.

I found one: NOT FOR THE SQUIMISH!!!! EYE GORE!#!

DO NOT LOOK AT THIS IF YOUR STOMACH IS WEAK!!!!

SERIOUSLY, THIS IS GROSS AND IF AN ADMIN OR ANYONE ELSE WANTS A DELETE, JUST ASK.

BUT IT IS COOL.
Repair of Orbital Floor Fracture:

[merrily]

103. Interesting info. Thanks.

Whatever diagnostic tool they use, my point was that a claim of a bone fracture can be proven or disproven. And maybe that is why the claim has disappeared, if the officer ever made it. Maybe it was only made up by the likes of Fox. Sadly, though, many people believe what they hear.

Despite video, they are claiming Powell was trying to kill a cop when killed.

So sickening.

[tblue37]

38. Yep, they keep floating these trial balloons and then

tweaking the story for the next balloon they send up.

[Warren Stupidity]

12. The pattern of disinformation smells of hired professionals.

This is SOP. Put the bullshit out there first, before the actual reports are released. The news runs with it, the internets run with it, the lie gets stenographed everywhere. Then when the report actually gets released and it doesn't contain the disinformation it doesn't matter. The meme that Brown, shot dead in a fusillade of bullets at a distance, was the aggressor, has already gone viral.

[tridim]

19. They're all liars...

[Politicalboi]

42. LOL!

The B girl.

[Boom Sound 416]

22. Well if it's on CNN, then...

[Bonx]

53. I looked and haven't seen this anywhere yet.

[alsame]

56. I just added the video link to my OP nt

[Bonx]

62. Cool, Thanks !

[world wide wally]

23. It's almost too bad that those people that recorded it have shared their videos already.

They would have surely hung themselves with their fabricated stories if they didn't know what was out there.
Maybe there's still a few more... hopefully.

[CakeGrrl]

68. The DOJ has conducted over 200 interviews.

The killer apologists can keep spinning. I'm betting the DOJ has more than what keeps getting looped on the usual outlets.

[csziggy]

27. I only have one thing to say about that

But Gomer said it better:

[MohRokTah]

28. Let's wait for all the evidence before speculating

For the humor impaired.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

34. Yeah, let's wait for scientists to invent a time machine

so we can go back in time to video tape the incident before we take the word of six percipient witnesses and accept the forensic evidence.

[Kali]

39. he probably injured himself trying to point his gun at Brown while he was hanging on to his shirt

or is the story of the gun going off in the car out of circulation now?

[LittleBlue]

40. If he's got facial injuries and a witness backs him up

then nothing will happen.

I'm sorry, but you can't hit a cop in the face. Still waiting for all the info to be released.

[Politicalboi]

43. Still no excuse to shoot

An unarmed surrendering kid. Call for back up, use a taser if needed. Point your gun on him till back up arrives. So many other options when your "suspect" is surrendering. The cop himself wasn't a small man. He has to be at least 6 feet tall and 200 pounds.

[LittleBlue]

49. Someone isn't telling the truth here

It's hard for me to imagine a scenario where a huge man charges a police officer, beats him up, then halfway through decides to sprint away.

I'm just glad there are apparently witnesses. If the cop is lying about injuries, then those lies will be found out. Brown's autopsy will either corroborate the fight story, or it won't. There's no way Brown beat the officer swollen without having some marks on his hand.

The truth will come out.

[Iggo]

88. The dead guy ain't lying.

Must be the other guy.

[BuelahWitch]

104. Mike Brown at no time "charged" Wilson!

Wilson was the aggressor. He backed up the truck, almost hit the two young guys and then grabbed Mike through his open vehicle window.

Stop the BS about Mike charging the police, it didn't happen!

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

44. That's because Mike Brown had elastic body parts like Mr. Fantastic of the Fantastic Four

The Officer was justified in firing at an unarmed fleeing man because at any time, even from 35 feet away, he could have turned and extended his fist 35 feet and deliver another punch.

[uponit7771]

50. I'm glad there are some who give the KKK supported LEO the benefit of the doubt, I don't

[LittleBlue]

52. Presumption of innocence

It's the way I roll.

[BklnDem75]

69. Wouldn't that be the presumption of Michael's guilt?

It can't be both.

[enki23]

70. Bullshit you do. You're presuming guilt.

The only way the cop could possibly be "innocent" is if Michael Brown was guilty. We know the cop shot the kid multiple times and killed him. That isn't in question. He is arguing self defense based on the alleged "guilt" of the deceased. I'm among those presuming innocence of the only alleged crime about which there is any question at all. That means I have (with good reason) to assume the cop is fucking guilty (as we know *for certain* he is) and that his actions were not justified by the alleged guilt in question until and unless Michael Brown is proven guilty.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

63. Except, as stated, the evidence from the autopsy doesn't back it up.

Absolutely no sign on Brown's hands that he made contact with Wilson.

Nice try, though.

[SylviaD]

72. I fear you are correct. n/t

[frylock]

91. shit. it seems you can't even LOOK a cop in the face anymore.

[underpants]

41. This was debunked days ago in DU - we used our brains

But I am glad CNN is making it public

[spanone]

45. a lie travels around the world while the truth is putting it's pants on...or something like that

[Gothmog]

55. The conservatives on discussionist are convinced that the officer was beaten

These idiots really believe the eye socket fracture claim

[Kalidurga]

61. And after having a fractured eye socket

can lay down a straight line shooting pattern on a charging black teenager who did not have his hands up. Seriously the crap they will believe.

[Killeroctopus]

58. Is the Department of Justice leaking shit that contradicts what the police sources are saying?

Maybe they confirmed to Lawrence that the sources were lying about the dozens of witnesses that corroborated the officer's story.

[HooptieWagon]

102. Good point. I was wondering about that also.

DOJ very well could have put pressure on police chief to stop spreading false stories. First they withdrew the "dozens of witnesses backing up officer's story" lie, and now the eyesocket fracture lie.

[WinkyDink]

67. Of course it was a lie. Wilson was just standing around MB's body afterwards, and not in pain.

[BronxBoy]

76. Maybe Wilson was on something...

Made him all fucking "eye of the tiger" after getting his eyeball busted

What's good for the goose......

[Enthusiast]

74. I wouldn't put it past the police to fake the injury.

I think it might go something like this, "Man, I shot a kid, he's history. Can you help me out? This thing has got to appear to be justified. Just hit me in the left side of my face—real hard."

Ferguson police are not trustworthy.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

80. Maybe Darren Wilson is a fan of the movie Dirty Harry

and remembered the scene where Scorpio paid a guy to bust up his face and blame it on Harry.

[Enthusiast]

93. There ya go.

[Anansi1171]

77. Hannity and Rush pushed this lie aggressively today!-nt

[kpete]

81. Here:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-contradict-fox-sources-claiming-darren-wilson-had-fractured-eye-socket/

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

83. Nancy Grace says we won't know the truth until it comes out in court

What? Nancy Grace wants to wait until all the evidence is in before sending the perp to the electric chair? What's this world coming to? Miss "Hang 'Em High" doesn't want someone's head on a platter asap? She's become mellow in her old age, I guess.

[frylock]

84. i am shocked. shocked and appalled. :|

[L0oniX]

94. I'm glad we waited for all the evidence to come to light before judging ...by the 2 head shots.

[Cha]

96. thanks alsame

[smakson]

97. witness accounts

Witness accounts before the autopsy was released are way more reliable than anything that comes out now.

The autopsy matches their accounts, not vice versa.

The ones I've seen are 100% consistent with the autopsy.

[Rex]

98. Sure, thanks Dave for the punch to the eye. A life saver.

Yeah I knew it was total bullshit, why would he wait around for hours with a broken eye socket? He wouldn't - EMS would have showed up and rendered aid and it would be on that video footage. EMS didn't show up for Brown that is certain.

Nobody is that tough and EMS not showing up and treating him proved him wrong on camera. Fleeing the scene just kinda cemented it.

Doesn't look good to an impartial jury.