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Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia, has once again blocked all computers from the U.S. House of Representatives in order to stop malicious edits to popular pages on the site.
According to The Hill, Wikipedia instituted the ban on Wednesday night after users operating from the House IP address made a series of anti-trans edits to the page for Netflix series Orange is the New Black.
Anonymous users operating from the Republican-led House were persistently re-editing the page to slur trans actress Laverne Cox by mis-gendering her mentions on the shows page. For instance, they changed Coxs description from real transgender woman to real man pretending to be a woman.
One user in particular went on an anti-trans editing spree this week, changing entries on multiple pages related to transgenderism until Wikipedia administrators were forced to step in.
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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/21/anti-trans-trolling-spree-forces-wikipedia-to-ban-u-s-house-staffers-for-third-time/
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
n2doc
(47,953 posts)What a bunch of losers.
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stranger81
(2,345 posts)I want to know who this asshat is.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)using taxpayer money to fund their evil deeds.
bjobotts
(9,141 posts)If you know an A-hole just ask and I'll bet it's a republican. Just look at their reps. in office.
dsc
(52,162 posts)since it would be a group account and go through a single server, but the House likely can since everyone logs in with a unique name and password.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)So that Repukes and Dems both had their private files stored in a common directory which anyone on either side could access. Could SOMEONE figure out who sent it? Most likely, but I have little faith that the people who do this for congress could.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)there is a vocal group here that insist on selling the meme Dem=Rep.
Things like the item in the OP are lost in the noise of "It doesn't make any difference...everything will be the same regardless which way we all vote"
It's despicable what several vocal DU'ers are trying to portray with regards to impotent voting.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Last edited Sat Aug 23, 2014, 06:21 PM - Edit history (1)
only care about their favorite celebrities and disdain real people whom the Democratic Party platform represents. Which means they don't respect those ideals or us lesser mortals, either.Obviously, the status quo in the HoR isn't hurting them so they'll stay home. If the GOP takes the Senate and repeals the ACA, cuts off the COLA for SS, reduces payments for SS and Medicare and repeals the Medicaid expansion, they don't care. They don't need it to live.
The great organizing tool that an online place can be is destroyed by those who arrogantly mock anyone who doesn't agree with every word from their idols.
Who are invariably rich, white and privileged males who never had to live on the level many people live on. They feel free to discuss us like a herd of cattle they feel entitled to have culled, more and more. No empathy for us but cheers for them are the rule of the day.
No empathy for the lesser people is allowed, we are supposed to bow down to them as our 'betters' as they insult and degrade our very existance. The steadfast support for them and refusing to listen to us is getting old quick.
In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.
~ Martin Luther King, Jr.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)I've made something like $400 in income over the last 3 years, and only have health insurance thanks to Medicaid.. I suppose that makes me 'invariably a rich, white privileged male'.
The people who are pointing out the flaws in a lot of Dems want BETTER Dems, who will actually give a crap about the Dem Party Platform. Not the kind of Dems who 'invariably' water down actual Democratic legislation in ways that make it more difficult for people who aren't making 30k a year already to survive.
So thanks for casting me with that rather disgusting caricature in your post as a person who has 'no empathy', who 'expects you to 'bow down' to me, who 'arrogantly mocks you', and 'thinks of you as a herd of cattle to be culled', simply because I don't join in on the 'rah rah team blue' bandwagon, when I'm offered some Dems who simply put, suck at actually being Dems.
riqster
(13,986 posts)"The people who are pointing out the flaws in a lot of Dems want BETTER Dems, who will actually give a crap about the Dem Party Platform."
No argument there. Until such people take actions that result in the election of Republicans. You know, vote withholding, discouragement of voting, advocating disengagement, and so on. None of these activities has ever been shown effective at moving our party Left. But the people you refer to continue trying to cut down on Dem votes.
At that point, they become Repubs for all practical purposes. And one may be assured, I shan't "bow down before them".
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)I always vote. I may not always vote for the candidate the 'team blue' types want me to, but I always vote. If they can't be happy with allies who will vote for 90%+ of the candidates they prefer, they can continue to slander such people as 'non voters' who 'discourage voting' and 'advocate disengagement', making them EVER MORE LIKELY to vote for FEWER of the candidates they prefer.
You can work with allies, or you can insult them. You can't easily do both.
riqster
(13,986 posts)My thesis is at least based on logic and demonstrated results: those who help Repubs get elected are to some degree Repub supporters.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Those who vote for candidates who are closer to being Republicans get legislation that is closer to Republican legislation, and are thus also 'to some degree Repub supporters'.
And the lack of clear distance between the parties on the specific issues that affect the most Americans has driven voter participation to dismal lows.
When you inspire your base, they vote, and you gain new voters. When you look too similar to the other side, you discourage voting.
riqster
(13,986 posts)It is our job to get the party that we want. And we will never get that via selective engagement in the General election.
We will only get it by intense and total engagement in the Primaries.
Vote withholding in General elections helps nobody but the Repubs.
LongTomH
(8,636 posts)Not voting doesn't send any message, except that people don't care. In fact, one of the strategies of the attack ads allowed by Citizens' United is NOT to get people to vote GOP; it's to suppress voter turnout, which always, always favors Republicans!
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)to BE WORTH VOTING FOR.
Whether or not you as a candidate are worth voting for does not change simply because you're running in a general election versus a primary.
You're either worth voting for or not. You can change that by changing your views, your votes, your promises. (And sticking with them)
'Vote withholding' is a strawman. You, as a candidate, EARN the votes you get. If you don't get votes, it's not because people 'withheld' something you deserve simply for existing. It's because you didn't earn them. No candidate is ENTITLED to votes simply because they put a given letter after their name.
riqster
(13,986 posts)In Ohio, four withheld votes in a single district turned the state from purple to red.
Children starving. Strawman?
Women losing their rights. Strawman?
Voting rights under attack. Strawman?
All of these happened because Repubs are in complete control of Ohio's government.
They are in control because not enough Dem voters cast ballots in that one race.
Strawman? Not at all. This is real, it is crucial, it is the effect that followed a cause.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)in part because we put up crappy candidates who refuse to earn the votes they need. And then, like you, turn around and blame the voters for not being enthused about voting for crappy candidates. Good candidates draw votes and win. Look at Sherrod Brown. He tells you he's a Democrat, he tells you why he's a Democrat, and he WINS.
The cause for all of those bad things happening is Dems failing to put up more winning candidates like Brown, who aren't ashamed to actually BE Dems.
(I say in part because Ohio is also highly gerrymandered.)
riqster
(13,986 posts)By the way, big shout out to Sherrod Brown, who beat a weak Teapub candidate and has been a true progressive Dem since.
The gerrymandering is exactly why we get such weak-ass Dem candidates. That and an ineffective state party.
In order to move Left, we have to put up better candidates; have a better ground game; take any victory we can get; and then undo the gerrymandering so better candidates have a chance of winning.
The environment is too complex to adopt a simplistic approach like "give me a good enough candidate before I will cast a ballot for him/ her: we are starting from too far in the hole for that.
As witness where Ohio is now, and why it is where it is.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)There are really only a few blue concentrations, with most of the state red. Yes, they STILL gerrymandered to weaken and divide those blue areas, but the reality is that Dems actually are concentrated geographically. We're not a purple state, we're a red state with a few large pockets of blue folks.
But I agree 100% with you on the 'ineffective state party'. I was dismally disappointed when I attended a county level party meeting. Despite having mailed/emailed everyone in the county who had voted in Dem primaries multiple times in a row, I think I was the only county resident who showed up who wasn't already part of the machinery. And when I heard their ideas on how to 'excite' the base, it was all I could do not to literally drop my jaw in disbelief. Ohio is hurting. Kasich has raised regressive sales taxes while cutting upper end taxes, our job 'growth' has been abysmal, with most new jobs being at the minimum wage end of things, and the legislature spends all of its time trying to find new ways to take away reproductive choice. And we're supposedly a 'bellwether' state, yet we can't get national money in to offset thr anti-labour money that floods in to reinforce Kasich and cronies.
It's not a matter of 'give me a good enough candidate'. It's a matter of give all of the people who don't vote a good enough candidate that they're willing to become first time voters. Give all of the young people who BECAME first time voters for Obama a reason to feel they weren't simply wasting their time. I'll be voting. Even for that poorly-vetted former FBI guy they're running against Kasich. But it won't matter a hill of beans unless they actually run candidates who can draw in the never-voters, the rare-voters, and the never-before voters.
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freshwest
(53,661 posts)riqster
(13,986 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)riqster
(13,986 posts)Last edited Sun Aug 24, 2014, 07:26 PM - Edit history (1)
Secondly, I happen to have an example. Ohio, 2012: a high-turnout election in which certain districts failed to cast ballots for certain Democrats while not in other races.
My case is proven, and your insult was inaccurate and gratuitous.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)The state of Ohio and "certain districts" and "certain Democrats". Excellent proof. Thanks for clearing that up.
I will reserve withdrawing my inaccurate and gratuitous insult.
But if you are just pulling my leg, nice touch with the "innacurate".
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La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)xchrom
(108,903 posts)we pay their fucking wages!
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)not an elected official
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... what do you expect from Republican staffers? They don't have anything to do.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)~ snip~
After this most recent banning, the outlawed anti-trans user wrote, Blocked because I disagreed with the trans-lobby? These days, If I complain about a man using the womyns restroom then Im cosidered transphobic and get called a TERF. This has been happening a lot lately here in the halls of Congerss. If feeling uncomfortable about some creeper coming into the same bathroom as me is considered transphobic, then why is transphobia considered a bad thing? I wouldnt be surprised if the Admin who banned this IP is trans. If she is a real woman, then she should should be following real Feminists like Julie Bindel, not sellouts to the trans lobby like Anita Sarkeesian. People need to understand that transgenderism is being promoted by the Patriarchy to diminish the experiences of real womyn.
~ snip~
ReRe
(10,597 posts)FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)And I got chewed out for using the term they use for themselves, so I won't use it again, but there are committed feminists who believe that trans people are trying to steal the essence and experience of "womyn born womyn".
happyslug
(14,779 posts)Maybe that is why the GOP hates Iran so much:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transsexuality_in_Iran
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)TERF is a whole new expression to me.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5394284
world wide wally
(21,744 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)not the Senate. Wonder why that would be?
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)[font size=4]The Senate Gavel:[/font]
https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/art/artifact/Decorative_arts/Other/71_00001.htm
[font size=4]The House Gavel:[/font]
There's a box full of them because they break them so often.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Drew Richards
(1,558 posts)Incompetent.
Can't they simply file a complaint to the justice dept?
I believe misuse of federal computers is a felony...
Wireshark network boom computer identified..walk up and bust them...
I mean come on i'm sure the NSA already knows exact time and computer doing the abuse.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)They've been busy on a lot of Wiki entries, making snarks and deleting things they don't people to know ever happened. I'd looked up some anti-Vietnam war pages in the past and went to find one recently. It'd been deleted, with a note saying in so many words that it was bullshit and never happened. Since I was there, it had happened. I was forced to go to youtube to make searches to find proof of what I knew. Tossing our history down the memory hole is their technique. Another one is spamming subjects so that search engines run out of room for results contradicting their memes or push them so far back it takes forever to get to them. Shutting down our knowledge is a big thing with conservatives. They want all other POVs removed from the net and everywhere else.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)Last edited Sun Aug 24, 2014, 03:44 PM - Edit history (1)
I don't think most people, even Dems, realize how pervasive these efforts are.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)It could be a false flag. But with statements like:
"If she is a real woman, then she should should be following real Feminists like Julie Bindel, not sellouts to the trans lobby like Anita Sarkeesian."
How many mouth breathers are going to even know the names Julie Bindel and Anita Sarkeesian, much less be able to use them in a sentence?
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)Not too long ago, a few DUer responded to the idea of paid RW sock-puppets on DU as paranoia. "As if the RW would bother with a little site like DU." That's the kind of naivete (or paid sock-puppet generated doubt) I was talking about dispelling.
EEO
(1,620 posts)spanone
(135,841 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)Why can't people stop being jerk arses?
IronLionZion
(45,447 posts)Republicans always tell you government is slow and inefficient, then they get elected and prove it. "see, we told you!"
Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)about what would happen if marriage equality was allowed, all came true.
I mean, have you seen the number of (straight) Republicans caught lately for adultery, molestation, sin-of-self-abuse and yes, bestiality? I never realized how our marriages would drive them to do such acts...again, "See, we told you so!".
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)Idiots
Zorra
(27,670 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(17,180 posts)And when the elected nutbags go to their reward (be it a cushy lobbying job or a refreshing dirt nap), there'll be a whole new group of fresh, young nutbags to replace them.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)~snip ~
After this most recent banning, the outlawed anti-trans user wrote, Blocked because I disagreed with the trans-lobby? These days, If I complain about a man using the womyns restroom then Im cosidered transphobic and get called a TERF. This has been happening a lot lately here in the halls of Congerss. If feeling uncomfortable about some creeper coming into the same bathroom as me is considered transphobic, then why is transphobia considered a bad thing? I wouldnt be surprised if the Admin who banned this IP is trans. If she is a real woman, then she should should be following real Feminists like Julie Bindel, not sellouts to the trans lobby like Anita Sarkeesian. People need to understand that transgenderism is being promoted by the Patriarchy to diminish the experiences of real womyn.
~snip ~
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There is SO MUCH to slam the asshats with about intolerance - let's not look stupid and lie to ourselves and others just to pile on.
Cha
(297,275 posts)in the US House of Representatives. They disgrace themselves over and over again. Can't wait until they're on the junk pile of history.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)Would a puke who would do something like this have a clue who Julie Bindel and Anita Sarkeesian are, much less their roles in the debate about whether a transgendered person should be accepted in womyn's spaces?
lunatica
(53,410 posts)It's breathtaking just how low they've brought Congressional behavior in just a very few years.
Gone is the dignity and respectability of the elected officials of The House and the Senate. Replaced by ill-bred, vulgar, uncouth, willfully ignorant, pratfalling clowns and the ones who allow and enable them. This is a very sad time in our government.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)After this most recent banning, the outlawed anti-trans user wrote, Blocked because I disagreed with the trans-lobby? These days, If I complain about a man using the womyns restroom then Im cosidered transphobic and get called a TERF. This has been happening a lot lately here in the halls of Congerss. If feeling uncomfortable about some creeper coming into the same bathroom as me is considered transphobic, then why is transphobia considered a bad thing? I wouldnt be surprised if the Admin who banned this IP is trans. If she is a real woman, then she should should be following real Feminists like Julie Bindel, not sellouts to the trans lobby like Anita Sarkeesian. People need to understand that transgenderism is being promoted by the Patriarchy to diminish the experiences of real womyn.
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)It's shameful when you consider this comes from the very seat of our nation's government.