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(60,010 posts)Taser would have worked....
Glad there was video evidence.
TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)They fired 9 shots...then moved the body and handcuffed him after he was dead.
This video is a good example of the so called respect Missouri cops show for their crime scenes.
TYY
GP6971
(31,164 posts)that had the knife? Doesn't look like it though.
...but they claimed he came at him with his hand raised with the knife in it. I didn't see that in the video and he wasn't that close to them until they started shooting him; then he started falling down that small hill from being hit by bullets.
Shameful.
TYY
GP6971
(31,164 posts)Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)An overhand grip is when you have the knife backwards (compared to how you would normally hold a knife)
An overhand grip does not require the knife to be in the air. Perhaps a bad choice of words. Reverse grip is more frequently used and perhaps a bit more clear.
Original story
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5694224
TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)The officers drew their weapons and ordered Powell to stop. He did stop, but then pulled out a knife and came at the officers, gripping and holding it high, Dotson said. They ordered him to stop and drop the knife. When he got within 2 or 3 feet of the officers, they fired, killing Powell.
This is a lethal range for a knife, Dotson said.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/st-louis-police-fatally-shoot-man-who-brandished-knife/article_85d27316-a17a-5e0a-b1d6-8a6753e2fcb2.html
TYY
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)Dude wasn't doing anything threatening, didn't have a knife - and definitely wasn't holding it high. That video should go viral.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Vile
Ms. Toad
(34,074 posts)His right hand was in his pocket, pushing outward against it & he pulled his hand out once the confrontation started. I can't tell if he has something in it or not - but it certainly isn't raised at any point in the confrontation.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)Kinda like the Buddhist monks immolate themselves. He tells people to back-up, says he's tired of this shit and people are going to know his name. It's definitely related to the Brown shooting in some way.
tblue37
(65,393 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)I found it over a decade ago and it really shows how things have changed.
https://archive.org/details/0012_Booked_for_Safekeeping_12_00_52_15
tblue37
(65,393 posts)cop gently talks him down to the point where it looks as though the man might drop the knife, but instead, he suddenly tightens his grip on it and lunges forward--but the cop has positioned himself with a chair between him and the man, and as the man lunges, the cop thrusts the chair into his legs, knocking him to the floor, and then he and the other two cops pile on to control him and get the knife from him.
However, they never but their knees on his back or neck, never rough him up. The just use their whole bodies to block any aggressive movement from the man in a way that does the minimum of harm to the man himself.
That sort of policing, though, takes time, energy, and training--as well as a desire to help rather than to harm. None of those things are very common in most police departments these days.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)...from 1960.
My, how things have changed. Interesting that it was created for the New Orleans police department.
Someone should send a copy to the St. Louis and Ferguson police chiefs.
TYY
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)And sometimes they can skip the names if they shoot your ass.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Both hands are out of pockets when he attempted to go around them. An easy taser shot, but I guess they don't do that...it is all kill kill kill.