Let's get to brass tacks

[sarisataka]

Should we eliminate local police departments?

9 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
	no just fix the bad in what we have
	5 (56%)
	no but loose the military stuff, go back to revolvers
	3 (33%)
	no but take away all lethal weapons
	0 (0%)
	no but take away all weapons
	0 (0%)
	keep detectives and have neighborhood watches report crime
	0 (0%)
	yes, let communities call state police to handle crime
	0 (0%)
	yes and get rid of state police too sheriffs can handle it and answer through elections
	1 (11%)
	get rid of all non federal police, they are all the same
	0 (0%)
	get rid of all cops. the people will figure out how to have peaceful communities
	0 (0%)
	where is the funny/sarcastic option?
	0 (0%)
	1 DU member did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[NaturalHigh]

1. I didn't see a WTF option...

so I just hit "Pass."

[Lex]

2. "eliminate local police departments?"

Asked no one ever. Well, except you.

[cwydro]

3. and does "loose the military stuff" mean

let loose the dogs essentially??? or did he mean "lose?"

Sigh

[sarisataka]

4. Fat thumbs

Although the dogs are a valid question

edit- funny you can't edit poll options. My loose is there for eternity

[leftstreet]

5. Cry Havoc!

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

11. There were etsy photos floating around of battle armour for cats

that somebody was handcrafting out of hard leather. I think a set ran around $500 though.

[Aerows]

18. My cat is dangerous enough

Please don't give her ideas.

[sarisataka]

6. According to some

Or maybe many all cops are bad. The blue vs everyone else that I have seen here today.
I am asking (maybe this first to do so)- is the LE system so broke that radical change is needed and if so what might that change look like?

[AngryAmish]

7. How would federalizing all police solve this?

Unless you think the ruthless efficiency, efficacy and concern for civil libererties enbodied by the TSA would be a good idea.

[sarisataka]

9. I am presenting options

But not advocating any. Later tonight I will vote the option I think is best

[Rex]

8. Why all the need to chop off the head? Can we just not review local PDs

that have huge violations...like the FPD having issued more warrants, than the town has people? Certainly there are red flags that can be found somewhat easily imo.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

12. And make it far easier for voters to choose what their police are or are not allowed

to have in terms of weaponry and military gear.

[Rex]

13. Good ideas, the state and feds still get to have all the military hardware they want.

Police have SWAT...but what is going on in Ferguson is para-military maneuvering. Far beyond what the need calls for. The real need is an investigation followed by litigation.

[gollygee]

10. Fix the bad in what we have AND lose the military stuff

Also police forces have to do a better job recruiting people of color. You're asking for trouble if you have an almost all white police force in a community with a large population of people of color. The police should look something like the people in the community they're protecting - because they are supposed to be protecting the community, not fighting a war against them.

[Cal Carpenter]

14. That's not brass tacks, LOL.

That's a theoretical, even philosophical discussion question given the state of things.

Get down to brass tacks
Meaning: Engage with the basic facts or realities.


We are about a thousand steps away from even being able to contemplate that in terms of actual policy at this time. Even as a social concept. It surely doesn't apply to engaging with reality, certainly not in the context of the poll.

Not to say it isn't worth discussing, but it isn't brass tacks.

Not what I thought I'd see when I clicked on this thread title....

[sarisataka]

15. Made you look

It is an interesting discussion IMO. I am surprised given the opposition to the militarization that a clear majority support working with the current framework over dome reduction in armament.

[JEB]

16. How about cut their bloated budgets in half.

So many better ways to spend the money.

[Aerows]

17. Lose not "loose"

Otherwise, I'm with that option.