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"On Friday, someone claiming to be a friend of Officer Darren Wilson, the policeman involved in the shooting death of Michael Brown, gave an account that was very different from other stories we had heard.
In Josies version of events, Wilson asked Brown and Dorian Johnson, 22, to move out of the street, before they became confrontational. When Wilson heard about the strong-arm robbery on the radio, he tried to get out of the car, and Brown slammed his door shut. And, then he opened the car again. He tried to get out. He stands up. And then Michael just bum-rushes him and shoves him back into the car. Punches him in the face and then Darren grabs for his gun.
Michael grabbed for the gun. At one point he got the gun entirely turned against his hip. And he shoves it away. And the gun goes off.
That account was confirmed by several sources in Ferguson speaking with CNNs Don Lemon, who told him that it matched Officer Wilsons account.
And Monday night, St. Louis Dispatch reporter Christine Byers tweeted that that recounting of events has been backed up by even more people on the ground in Ferguson."
http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/169302-police-sources-tell-reporter-witnesses-coming-forward-corroborate-officers-account/
The fix is in.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)is a nice touch.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)They're superpeople from Krypton with X-Ray vision!
gollygee
(22,336 posts)who immediately had the same statement about what happening. Anonymous people days later don't impress me.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Damned straight the fix is in.
Can't wait to see the dozen white faces who were "eyewitnesses".
UtahEther
(1 post)And if they were black eyewitnesses with the same account it would somehow be more credible?
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Go watch a video of the aftermath of Wilson executing Brown in the street in broad daylight. The only white faces you'll see are cops.
And Wilson is pacing up and down like a caged tiger wihout a mark on him regardless of what bullshit about injuries is being spread. He was there for hours.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)new witnesses are Black and I doubt any of them are eye witnesses. The eye witnesses have been named and seen on TV. They have not spoken to the police. These new witnesses have not been seen on TV or named. I doubt they are eye witnesses with an original story to tell. Who are they? Where were they when the shooting took place. Where is the police report? Where is the shooter? All missing!
pintobean
(18,101 posts)villager
(26,001 posts)...right.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)stranger81
(2,345 posts)she was simply parroting it. I heard her statement, and she never claimed to have been a percipient witness to the incident.
Duer 157099
(17,742 posts)In fact, she mentioned Facebook, and it sort of sounded like she might have just been retelling what she read on the Facebook page of Wilson's significant other.
IDemo
(16,926 posts)City Lights
(25,171 posts)making the rounds on cable teevee.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)long to come forward?
FLyellowdog
(4,276 posts)say there was no gun residue on Brown? Methinks me smells a rat.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)redqueen
(115,103 posts)Response to redqueen (Reply #46)
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BklnDem75
(2,918 posts)It's probably at the firing range right now.
Sanity Claws
(21,849 posts)Fabrication needs time. Truth doesn't.
Rex
(65,616 posts)0rganism
(23,957 posts)"When Wilson heard about the strong-arm robbery on the radio"
This detail alone throws the story into doubt. Are we to believe that the "witness" could know what Darren Wilson heard on his radio?
I'm going to bet this is simply parroting of FPD talking points. The more this gets into the echo chamber, the more it's supported in the zeitgeist, the easier it will be to stack the jury and get Ofcr. Wilson the acquittal the FPD thinks he deserves.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)that it's been acknowledged Wilson could not have known
about the robbery nor suspect's description at that point.
That officially it the robbery is not connected to the shooting.
GitRDun
(1,846 posts)Quayblue
(1,045 posts)This story is playing these questions against each other and I call bullshit.
Baitball Blogger
(46,733 posts)The Circle of Friends and Associates can always be counted on to pass on lies to support the desired stories. I hope these people are put on lie detector tests and their whereabouts confirmed at the time of the critical events.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)The Ferguson PD and St. Louis PD orchestrate a smear campaign on a murder victim, while hiding any actual evidence of their investigation from the public.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)Not just to "field media requests" as stated. I'm guessing they're behind this... I wonder if any of the chipper white girls on the PR site is named Josie.
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)Hearing a second hand account does not make a person a witness.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Last edited Tue Aug 19, 2014, 07:10 PM - Edit history (1)
cop. I take that to mean she doesn't even believe it herself.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)especially after so many actual eyewitness accounts.
I don't know how much is registered on social media, ie
people posting as they saw what was happening, or
immediately after, people actually on the scene, but
it would be important time-stamped evidence, I would
think.
blm
(113,064 posts).
joeglow3
(6,228 posts)The point is that a fix in. Thus, that fits the narrative.
blm
(113,064 posts)You think Poppy Bush, Rev Moon, Rupert Murdoch, and their NWO cronies didn't expect their RW propaganda media machine would be used like this when they were developing this 'machine' in the 80s and 90s?
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)something tells me they are preparing the public for a decision not to indict Darren Wilson. I don't know how it works in Missouri but in most jurisdictions the grand jurors remain anonymous and this case could very well be heard by an all-white group. The DA usually has the option of presenting the case to the Grand Jury where the public is excluded or going directly to the Courts for a preliminary hearing for probable cause. I'd choose the latter in this case like they did in the OJ case to avoid any appearance of back door shenanigans, because of racial sensitivities, and because of excessive media attention.
rgbecker
(4,831 posts)Has it been released and does anybody have a link to it so we all can read it?
Azathoth
(4,610 posts)No one knows exactly what Wilson's story is and the police deliberately have kept it that way. Any witness accounts that corroborate his story thus become more credible because there is no way for potentially sympathetic witnesses to fit their stories to his.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)on radio and CNN.
Azathoth
(4,610 posts)And no one knew whether it was real or bullshit until yesterday when CNN apparently got someone with knowledge of the investigation to confirm it. By now it doesn't matter because the police/FBI have gotten statements from all the important witnesses.
logosoco
(3,208 posts)This "Josie", who I have heard is a friend of Wilson's girlfriend, calls a radio show, and so many people take what she says as the truth.
SHE WAS NOT THERE!
The Ferguson chief said in a press conference (I saw the clip) and he said the officer did NOT know about the "robbery". He was confronting the two men because they were "jaywalking".
If this story is true, (and I do not really think it is, no matter how many times they tell it), physical evidence will show. Mike Brown's finger prints will be all over the vehicle, and, if the story is correct, on the officer's holster or weapon. Why not just release the official account that shows this evidence instead of relying on this "Jodie" person?
If there was a physical altercation before the shooting, I don't see it happening like this. The cop just sat there and let this person "bum rush" them, then get shoved down , have their gun almost taken away, and then punched? And at some point the gun went off in the car? But then they were able to come to their senses and, while this person was getting away, they pulled the gun and shot them to death?
I don't know. So much happening in the past few weeks. I am trying to use my intelligence, but it does not seem to match up with what so many are saying.
Something is missing in that narrative. If it is true, that person should never have been a cop and needs a new job in another field altogether.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)And start recognizing it as PR for the killer - at best - and aiding and abetting at worst.
There is nothing neutral or official about the Ferguson or St. Louis County PD at this point.
We need a special prosecutor immediately.
underpants
(182,826 posts)This is like a bad mystery novel.
underpants
(182,826 posts)and I heard it on Fox & Friends this morning - that people are now coming out backing the official story BUT THERE IS NO OFFICIAL STORY - sorry this is complete bullshit.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)'Josie', who has been spreading Wilson's account of events, wasn't there and is a friend of his girlfriend (supposedly). And so far, if there are eye witnesses who agree with the story we've heard from Josie (who again, didn't see anything with her own eyes), we don't know who they are. The police may indeed have a dozen eyewitnesses in support of Wilson, or they could be making it all up.
We know nothing.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)and the effort to influence the potential jury pool continues. The convenience store tape, the alleged marijuana in Brown's system, and now the multitude of witnesses who will back Darren Wilson's account.
The prospective prosecutor in this case had a father who was a police officer who was killed in the line of duty by a black man. This is starting to really trouble me.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)The leaking from completely biased "police sources" is unconscionable.
This a fucking murder investigation! Are they all fucking crazy down there?
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)and described her application for a job in the DA's office down there after she graduated from law school. She said one of the questions she was asked during the job interview for Deputy D.A. was whether she thought she could work in an office where the "N" word was used all the time. No office in modern America, especially in a DA's office, would permit the use of that expression unless it was being tolerated or even encouraged directly from the top.
PoutrageFatigue
(416 posts)...I bet there are...
wandy
(3,539 posts)stories such as........
Dr. Ben Carsons Voice of Reason on Ferguson: Weve Got To Start Being Objective
http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/169320-dr-ben-carson-ferguson-weve-got-start-objective/
Then HOW Can You Say Theres No Evidence of Criminal Wrongdoing?! Trey Gowdy Grills IRS Commissioner Koskinen
http://www.ijreview.com/2014/06/150203-can-say-theres-evidence-criminal-wrongdoing-trey-gowdy-grills-irs-commissioner-koskinen/
Meet the Progressive DA Texas Governor Rick Perry Wanted Removed from the Public Integrity Unit
http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/168537-meet-progressive-da-texas-governor-rick-perry-wanted-removed-public-integrity-unit/
Read them for a good laugh. Believe them at your own risk.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)All of the eyewitness accounts that have been made are very consistent and do not support the cop narrative.
Fail.
onethatcares
(16,172 posts)is publish a transcript and time line of the police radio traffic.
It's really quite simple in this day and age.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)I question their credibility and want them to prove that they were there.
1 - Dorian Johnson - Friend of Victim and was with him during the incident.
2 - Tiffany Mitchell - Employee at a near apartment complex. Corroborates Mr. Johnson's account.
3 - Piaget Crenshaw - Woman in an apartment balcony who saw the incident. Corroborates Mr. Johnson's account.
4 - Emmanuel Freeman - Tweeted about the event immediately after it happened. Saw the shots after initial contact with the officer.
5 - Anonymous Man from Convenience Store - Mentioned that the cop kept shooting even when the Victim raised his hands to give up.
Hopefully they would name themselves, otherwise I feel like these are just guys who say this to muddy the waters.
Important issue is not Michael Brown's character or any of that sort, it is the shooting itself and the use of excessive force.
kwolf68
(7,365 posts)Just as the fascists have always done, you do NOT need to PROVE your side, simply muddy the waters. they did it with DDT, lead paint, smoking, global warming and racist shit-mongering cops.
Just 'create doubt' and you then create a divide. If even HALF of Conservatives would stand up against this brutality from police officers, then we could really change this nation, but we CAN'T do it with JUST progressives, considered an ideological faction. Now some Conservatives are racists shitheads who are happy Mike Brown is dead, but there are OTHERS who could be friends in such a cut-and-dried case, but the propaganda won't allow them to critically think about the issues, because they see the "big black Liberal boogeyman" hiding in the corner.
So the mis-information campaign works. The PR company is a full-blown propaganda assault on reality and facts with the hopes to make this all go away so these police state can get back to business as usual.
Unvanguard
(4,588 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)hmmm... interesting. And she's taking a beating on her twitter account.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)It's still not worth getting killed over when you're surrendering.
6000eliot
(5,643 posts)Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)hopefully the feds will weed out the liars from the actual witnesses.
Lex
(34,108 posts)their story concocted.
seveneyes
(4,631 posts)It's all a battle of words while the facts are getting their pants on.
LordGlenconner
(1,348 posts)This is a coordinated effort to smear this kid to make sure a very bad cop escapes justice. I wouldn't be surprised if the department has some Republican consultant involved, probably working pro bono out of a sense of dedication to preserving 'Murica the way it "supposed to be".
Fuck them. Fuck them all to hell.
MFM008
(19,814 posts)to muddy the waters and set this racist killer up for getting off on this charge. Confuse, convolute, divert.