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IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:59 PM Aug 2014

Why isn't anyone talking about the CORRUPT police officer?

You know - the guy who LOST HIS JOB when the entire DEPARTMENT was shut down for CORRUPTION?

From Article: “Wilson previously worked in nearby Jennings, where the black population is 86.1 percent.”
Officer Darren Wilson Lives in Crestwood, Black Population 1.3%, http://colorlines.com/archives/2014/08/officer_darren_wilson_lives_in_crestwood_black_population_13.html

Article Dated: March 12, 2011 “The council said corruption inside the department led to this.
Jennings police department dissolves, http://www.kmov.com/news/local/Jennings-police-department-dissolves-117864314.html

Was this guy the ONLY "good cop" or is it more likely he was just one of the gang who was FIRED FOR CORRUPTION before joining another police department where frankly, financing the city seems to be the primary motivation for police officers?

Monday, Aug 18, 2014 “Despite Ferguson’s relative poverty, fines and court fees comprise the second largest source of revenue for the city, a total of 2,635,400,” according to the ArchCity Defenders report. And in 2013, the Ferguson Municipal Court issued 24,532 arrest warrants and 12,018 cases, “or about 3 warrants and 1.5 cases per household.” (snip) "The paper points out that in Ferguson, 86 percent of vehicle stops “involved a black motorist, although blacks make up just 67 percent of the population.” In addition, blacks stopped in Ferguson “are almost twice as likely as whites to be searched (12.1 percent versus 6.9 percent) and twice as likely to be arrested (10.4 percent versus 5.2 percent)”. Searches of blacks only results in discovery of contraband 21.7 percent of the time, whereas contraband is recovered from their less frequently stopped white counterparts 34.0 percent of the time."
Driving While Black in Ferguson, http://www.newsweek.com/ferguson-profiling-police-courts-shooting-264744

This is NOT brain surgery - this is corruption. With this level of attitude toward the citizenry ("f*ck*ng animals!" - a police officer was recorded shouting this at TAX PAYING CITIZENS and is apparently STILL EMPLOYED!), the killing of an unarmed teenager is simply to be expected.

The house wasn't cleaned when the police brutally beat a man they arrested by mistake and then charged with bleeding on their uniforms http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/15/the-day-ferguson-cops-were-caught-in-a-bloody-lie.html so, I have one question for the authorities:

Why aren't these CORRUPT CITY LEADERS and the CORRUPT POLICE FORCE in jail? Why isn't the question "how did a corrupt cop end up on the police force in Ferguson and get an AWARD" instead of "can we find something to smear the character of a murdered teenager?"

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Why isn't anyone talking about the CORRUPT police officer? (Original Post) IdaBriggs Aug 2014 OP
It may be the culture within the police department and court system in Ferguson rustydog Aug 2014 #1
Let this be a reminder to the con who constantly want less government Stargazer99 Aug 2014 #20
Interesting that his first police job was in a PD so corrupt that it was disbanded. kath Aug 2014 #2
That is really interesting starroute Aug 2014 #3
Jennings PD coverup of police brutality in 2009-10 starroute Aug 2014 #5
the body language and his eyes onethatcares Aug 2014 #9
That's why I included the video starroute Aug 2014 #10
Agree... ReRe Aug 2014 #26
Thank you for posting this. I've updated a related thread I began VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #4
The PD is too busy running PR for him and the prosecutor is too busy working his defense. eom MohRokTah Aug 2014 #6
Got a link to support pintobean Aug 2014 #8
I notice some people never ask for links to support the claims of the police. bravenak Aug 2014 #27
heh Quayblue Aug 2014 #39
++++++ n/t BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2014 #7
You're doing okay smearing the character of the officer Leontius Aug 2014 #11
Well, bless your heart! The PSYCHIC police officer (assuming the BS theft story happened) IdaBriggs Aug 2014 #12
Questions need to be asked and answered, just making shit up doesn't cut it. Leontius Aug 2014 #15
Fact: Cop fired from Previous Job due to CORRUPTION. IdaBriggs Aug 2014 #18
You're doing a good job of ignoring the public records and past history of the PD. TeamPooka Aug 2014 #23
No I am not but I also don't believe in guilt by association just to smear this guy. Leontius Aug 2014 #25
The character of the officer is questionable just because of the fact that he has fled the city. nt TeamPooka Aug 2014 #29
There you go "fled the city" or left for his familys safety from the mob who have already convicted Leontius Aug 2014 #32
Preferable to smearing his brains on the street, wouldn't you say? DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2014 #31
Well you just made an entire bunch of authoritarian heads explode! Rex Aug 2014 #13
If only...seriously, I don't understand why the town leaders aren't in jail. IdaBriggs Aug 2014 #14
My hope is that the FBI will come down with the big hammer on Ferguson PD. Rex Aug 2014 #17
The chief builds the atmosphere around the dept. Phlem Aug 2014 #16
K&R me b zola Aug 2014 #19
K&R n/t proReality Aug 2014 #21
K & R Tommymac Aug 2014 #22
butbutbut a friend of the cop said that the cop said he was totally justified. redqueen Aug 2014 #24
Stop smearing the cops with your FACTS!!! bravenak Aug 2014 #28
Talking in class, yes: Guilty. IdaBriggs Aug 2014 #33
IdaBriggs, I'm goint to have to insist that you and any people or dogs with you stand down right now NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #30
It just says "to protect and serve" but not exactly to whom? Rex Aug 2014 #34
It becomes clearer every damned day! NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #36
I cannot believe we have so many reading comprehension problems. IdaBriggs Aug 2014 #40
I was happy to see two of them shown the door yesterday... NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #41
You too, sir! Oh, and my "potential" troll is now officially gone. IdaBriggs Aug 2014 #42
Don't you go letting any facts get in the way of your wild assumptions. WillowTree Aug 2014 #35
You are incorrect, but please don't let that get in the way of your rant. IdaBriggs Aug 2014 #37
Too damn much money in the cop business. JEB Aug 2014 #38
Why isn't this all over those talky gossipy so called cable news shows??? Seems lunasun Aug 2014 #43
My question exactly! IdaBriggs Aug 2014 #44

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
1. It may be the culture within the police department and court system in Ferguson
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 01:03 PM
Aug 2014

To change that culture you need the Federal Gov't to step in, investigate and insist on changes.
They did that in Seattle after a series of hi-profile shootings and assaults by SPD.

US against them doesn't cut it. The "them" they are referring to are you and me...

Stargazer99

(2,585 posts)
20. Let this be a reminder to the con who constantly want less government
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 03:48 PM
Aug 2014

Without government authority to investigate matters like this only the privileged will be able to live without consquences for what ever they do wrong.

kath

(10,565 posts)
2. Interesting that his first police job was in a PD so corrupt that it was disbanded.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 01:30 PM
Aug 2014

Thanks for posting this.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
3. That is really interesting
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 01:38 PM
Aug 2014

The Jennings scandal was in 2010 -- and Wilson has been with the Ferguson PD for four years. It sounds like he wasn't among the handful who were rehired.

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/2011/11/jeffrey_fuesting_jennings_poli.php

Nov. 11 2011

Last fall a joint federal-state investigation revealed that a Jennings police lieutenant had accepted federal money earmarked to pay for DWI checkpoint shifts that never happened. The chief at the time, who never got linked to the scandal, resigned. In November, Fuesting and his boss, Cpt. Troy Doyle of the North County Precinct, took over temporarily, and in March, the Jennings City Council voted 6 to 1 to disband the local police department and enter into a $2.8 million contract with St. Louis County.

The move required a full housecleaning; each existing officer got laid off by the city, and the county brought in a team of 26 new officers. (A small handful of former Jennings cops were rehired.)

starroute

(12,977 posts)
5. Jennings PD coverup of police brutality in 2009-10
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 01:45 PM
Aug 2014
http://www.lawreport.org/ViewStory.aspx?StoryID=4144

10/07/2010

JENNINGS, MO (KTVI - FOX2now.com) - Jennings Police dash camera video reveals a reported case of excessive force. However, citizen complaints appear to have led to a cover-up. The woman in the video tried to get the Jennings Police Department to investigate. She said officers repeatedly responded "what video?" Then a DVD copy mysteriously appeared on a City Councilman's door step..

On October 4, the City fired Corporal Paul Bachman after an internal affairs investigation sustained conduct violations. We asked Chief Robert Orr about the attempted cover up.



onethatcares

(16,172 posts)
9. the body language and his eyes
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 02:54 PM
Aug 2014

give him away.

along with his speech pattern.

sheesh, I think the chief has a secret he's trying to hide.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
10. That's why I included the video
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 03:09 PM
Aug 2014

It also struck me as odd that they only cited a couple of people as involved in the DUI fund ripoff, but they dismantled the entire department. Seems like a lot of dirty secrets were being swept under the rug.

 

VanGoghRocks

(621 posts)
4. Thank you for posting this. I've updated a related thread I began
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 01:43 PM
Aug 2014

back on Friday and cross-referenced yours.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025390934

Although my thread has fallen inactive, please feel free to comment on it if you are so moved.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
8. Got a link to support
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 02:52 PM
Aug 2014

"the prosecutor is too busy working his defense"?

It's at least the second time you've made that claim without supporting it.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
27. I notice some people never ask for links to support the claims of the police.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 04:28 PM
Aug 2014

They just believe everything the popo says.

 

Leontius

(2,270 posts)
11. You're doing okay smearing the character of the officer
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 03:19 PM
Aug 2014

without even a grainy store surveillance video. Good job.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
12. Well, bless your heart! The PSYCHIC police officer (assuming the BS theft story happened)
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 03:28 PM
Aug 2014

who was let go from a CORRUPT police department (facts in evidence) shot and killed an unarmed teenager.

Why on earth should anyone question HIS moral character?



Ah, but the statement from the store owner and the clerk that they never called 911 because the young man PAID FOR HIS PURCHASE should be ignored, because Psychic Police Officer wasn't really harrassing black teenagers who were walking across the street toward their destination - he was being A Good Cop.

Heaven help me, I can't even type it with a straight face!

Maybe it should be a new television series: "Psychic Cops: Magically able to identify unarmed future felons and fix the problem with a BANG! BANG! BANG!"

Problem Solved.

But really, pointing out the absurdity of asking why A CORRUPT COP FROM A DEPARTMENT DISBANDED DUE TO CORRUPTION ended up an AWARD WINNING COP in Fergusan --

 

Leontius

(2,270 posts)
15. Questions need to be asked and answered, just making shit up doesn't cut it.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 03:36 PM
Aug 2014

Ask the questions, find the answers and then post the facts.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
18. Fact: Cop fired from Previous Job due to CORRUPTION.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 03:43 PM
Aug 2014

See the link where the council is quoted. There are others.

Fact: Corrupt Cop hired to Fergusan. (See news coverage)

Fact: Store owner and clerk did NOT report theft or robbery. (See statement by the store owner)

Inferred Fact: Corrupt Cop did not know about theft or robberty (supported by Chief of Police statement)

Fact: Victim has no record of criminal history prior to death. (marijuana in body at death does not a convicted criminal make)

Fact: Victim was unarmed.

Fact: Victim is Dead.

Fact: Victim is Dead by cause of gunshots by Cop previously fired due to Corruption.

Figure it out, dude. Unlike the Corrupt Police in Fergusan, I am not making shit up.

 

Leontius

(2,270 posts)
25. No I am not but I also don't believe in guilt by association just to smear this guy.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 04:15 PM
Aug 2014

For all I know he woke up that morning and said I'm gonna kill some one today, but I 'm not going to state that as a fact .

TeamPooka

(24,229 posts)
29. The character of the officer is questionable just because of the fact that he has fled the city. nt
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 04:35 PM
Aug 2014

I have made no statements about his intent but in examining the public records and history of this PD, there are big problems in this department that need addressing.

 

Leontius

(2,270 posts)
32. There you go "fled the city" or left for his familys safety from the mob who have already convicted
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 05:32 PM
Aug 2014

him and seek his death in revenge. See how easy it is to twist things to fit an agenda. " big problems in this department" still don't equal Wilson was part of them, he may be or he may not, you don't know and neither do I .

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
13. Well you just made an entire bunch of authoritarian heads explode!
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 03:30 PM
Aug 2014

Watch now as the flop all over themselves with excuses as to why your post is invalid etc..or they will do like they've done for the past week...totally ignore these threads and pretend it never happened.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
14. If only...seriously, I don't understand why the town leaders aren't in jail.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 03:35 PM
Aug 2014

Corruption at this level seems to be a pretty serious charge to me -- it is almost like these people have been living under Mafia rule!

The courage they are using to stand up against the CORRUPTION is Very Impressive!

Damned shame Michael Brown had to die to get some attention paid to the situation.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
17. My hope is that the FBI will come down with the big hammer on Ferguson PD.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 03:39 PM
Aug 2014

I wonder when they will turn over the fugitive to the FBI? Seems like the coward is still in hiding somewhere...thanks to the Ferguson PD.

Yeah...this seems out and out criminal, yet not to everyone...is THIS how the BFEE got away with so much crime? People honestly are that uninformed and believe the best out of authority figures? Just take it on faith?

If true...yikes!

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
24. butbutbut a friend of the cop said that the cop said he was totally justified.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 04:06 PM
Aug 2014

And now some other cops even said other witnesses who back up the cop's version of the incident have suddenly come forward to do so!

What more do you need to know?

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
28. Stop smearing the cops with your FACTS!!!
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 04:33 PM
Aug 2014

You're damn close to grabbing for their weapons from inside your home miles away!!! With your computer!! I bet you stole a pencil at school once!!! And i'm sure you had your name written on the board for talking in class!

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
33. Talking in class, yes: Guilty.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 08:58 PM
Aug 2014

My criminal past is pretty much non-existent.

Oh, but I am an Opinionated Woman, so totally guilty in the minds off those who would prefer I sit down and shut up.

(Not very good at that, and not interested in getting good at it either.)

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
30. IdaBriggs, I'm goint to have to insist that you and any people or dogs with you stand down right now
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 04:37 PM
Aug 2014

You have forces us to to this, you're under indefinite detention for yet-to-be determined possible charges.

If you resist, you'll be shot, and if you don't resist you MIGHT be shot.

Best advised, don't resist.

We're here to protect and to serve....

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
36. It becomes clearer every damned day!
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 09:52 PM
Aug 2014

Airspace closed even to the media, no curfew and you may protest quietly, as long as you don't stay in one place.

Now keep moving!

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
40. I cannot believe we have so many reading comprehension problems.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 06:42 AM
Aug 2014

Just played with a possible troll in another thread on the topic of "shot AT" versus "shot IN" the back.

So annoying.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
41. I was happy to see two of them shown the door yesterday...
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 08:27 AM
Aug 2014

I don't mind taking a wait and see attitude with police in some instances.

But in this case, there's not the tiniest bit of evidence that works in the officer's favor.

Every element, including the initiation of the confrontation through the officer's being sequestered away in some safe place in another city, stinks to high heaven.

Have a good day, IdaBriggs...

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
35. Don't you go letting any facts get in the way of your wild assumptions.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 09:28 PM
Aug 2014

Exactly where did you get your information that Wilson was fired from the Jennings police department or was part of the mass firing? I didn't see anything in any of the articles that you linked to that made any reference whatsoever that he was fired or was ever even accused of corruption in Jefferson or anywhere else.

What I did see in second linked article was that the Jefferson city council voted to dissolve their police department in March, 2011. If you do even a modicum of research you'll find that Wilson was gone from there long before that, has been with the Ferguson PD for six years, and I couldn't find any information as to why he left. Maybe he was fired, and if you have any valid information to that effect, I'd like to see it. But I don't think you do.

It's incredible to me how the host of actual facts being piled up against this man isn't sufficient. Why the need to make assumptions with no basis in fact and then post them as facts. Do you think the prosecutors ought to use what you posted as evidence of his evil ways in court? I'm not sure that would be very helpful.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
37. You are incorrect, but please don't let that get in the way of your rant.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 09:58 PM
Aug 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025406416

So, let us find out HOW you became misinformed.

Ah, a link:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/darren-wilson-ferguson-police-officer-who-fatally-shot-michael-brown-identified/

Police Chief Thomas Jackson said the officer who fired the fatal shots, Darren Wilson, did not know Michael Brown was a robbery suspect when he initially stopped the teen and a companion "because they were walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic." Jackson told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that Wilson knew there had been a robbery in the area but did not know that Brown was a suspect.

Wilson, 28, has been an officer in suburban St. Louis for six years and had no complaints filed against him, Jackson said. Police previously refused to identify Wilson, citing concerns over the officer's safety.

(snip)

Jackson described Wilson as "a gentle, quiet man" who had been "an excellent officer." He's been on the Ferguson force for four years. Prior to that, he patrolled in the neighboring community of Jennings, Jackson said.


You see, you got screwed up because you were confused about SIX YEARS in suburban St. Louis which you MISTAKENLY thought were all in Ferguson, but (per the police chief, quoted in national media) only four of those years in Ferguson, and the prior two being in Jennings. (2014 - 4 years = 2010)

Jennings, as you saw from the link, was disbanded due to corruption - from my link in the original post -

Posted on March 12, 2011 at 7:43 PM
Updated Sunday, Mar 13 at 12:22 AM
(KMOV.com) -- The Jennings, Missouri city council decided to dissovle the police department and hand over operations to the St. Louis county police department.
The council said corruption inside the department led to this. Some cases involve missing money and a slew of internal investigations.
St. Louis county has been leading and staffing the Jennings police department since November, 2010, when Jennings' police chief retired.


Note: The police chief's retirement was forced. You can read more here http://www.kmov.com/news/local/Corruption-Investigation-into-Jenning-Police-Department-is-wrapping-up-104182614.html or here http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/2011/11/jeffrey_fuesting_jennings_poli.php "The move required a full housecleaning; each existing officer got laid off by the city, and the county brought in a team of 26 new officers. (A small handful of former Jennings cops were rehired.) Fuesting assumed command on March 12."

Our Corrupt Hero joined Ferguson in 2011 and was NOT rehired when he was let go at Jennings.

Do the math - four years in Ferguson and two years at the police station disbanded by a six-one vote for corruption, which ending coincided with when they cleaned house.

Coincidence? No. CORRUPTION. And those are VERIFIABLE FACTS that should have his character being questioned in the national media with more scrutiny than a "robbery" that per the "guy who was robbed" did NOT happen.
 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
38. Too damn much money in the cop business.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 10:05 PM
Aug 2014

Way past time to cull the herd of cops feeding on the carcass of the rotting empire.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
43. Why isn't this all over those talky gossipy so called cable news shows??? Seems
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 09:51 AM
Aug 2014

Like the kind of stuff they always throw in... Oh wait! Wrong slant, better show Brown again doing something that requires a death sentence in the mind of the couch sitters

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
44. My question exactly!
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 10:22 AM
Aug 2014

If DU could find it (and do the math), what the heck is going on with the people who are PAID to "investigate" this stuff?

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