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Little Star

(17,055 posts)
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 11:06 AM Aug 2014

Stop Night Protests in Ferguson and Start Recalling City Leaders

Energy spent squaring off against an incompetent police force is better directed at the city's power structure. Protest by day, collect signatures by night.

So long as nightly street protests continue in Ferguson, Missouri, where police and violent agitators alike use the cover of darkness to perpetrate unjustified aggression, the likelihood of additional casualties increases. The mayhem puts at risk peaceful protesters, whose frustration at local authorities is fully justified, as well as many good police officers who'd rather be anywhere else. Some have asked the majority of residents with peaceful intentions to call off protests and vigils after dark. The request is understandable—as is the refusal of outraged citizens who feel a moral and civic obligation to persist in their activism. Well-intentioned people on both sides feel they cannot in good conscience back down, yet they are unable to control the bad elements in their midst.

It is a perilous moment—and politics offers one way forward.

In The Guardian, Gary Younge, who sympathizes with the protesters in Ferguson, observes that the highly charged scene there attracts "opportunists, macho-men and thrill-seekers as well as the righteously indignant and politically militant." (The military atmosphere created by police helps attract the thrill-seekers.) He adds that Ferguson is "a mostly black town under curfew in which the entire political power structure is white," and that some riot because doing so is "the crudest tool for those who have few options. By definition, they are chaotic. Rich people don’t riot because they have other forms of influence. Riots are a class act."

One can imagine how some Ferguson residents would conclude that they have no form of influence except taking to the streets each night. Yet given the passionate mobilization that is taking place each day, it is realistic to imagine the protesters successfully ousting the whole leadership structure of the city. Even observers who are critical of the street activism following Michael Brown's killing agree that Ferguson's leaders have been egregiously incompetent in their response. They've clearly lost the confidence of the people they represent, and only in part because, as the New York Times puts it, "Although about two-thirds of Ferguson residents are black, its mayor and five of its six City Council members are white. Only three of the town’s 53 police officers are black."
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/08/in-ferguson-stop-the-nighttime-protestsand-start-the-recall-drive/378736/

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Stop Night Protests in Ferguson and Start Recalling City Leaders (Original Post) Little Star Aug 2014 OP
I heard that many of the protesters work and that upaloopa Aug 2014 #1
It certainly appears to be the core problem, TPTB in Ferguson ... that, and the RKP5637 Aug 2014 #2
The core problem is the plantation, not the number of black overseers. TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #4
It is rooted in that, isn't it! I was monitoring several video streams of Ferguson RKP5637 Aug 2014 #6
Yup, there has never been escape velocity from the gravity well of dehumanizing TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #10
+1 leftstreet Aug 2014 #9
If you can't vote your signature is meaningless. Lars39 Aug 2014 #3
Has anyone even seen the mayor? gldstwmn Aug 2014 #5
I've been wondering the same, in fact at one point I was wondering if there RKP5637 Aug 2014 #7
"Shut up and vote!" 951-Riverside Aug 2014 #8
no bigtree Aug 2014 #11

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
2. It certainly appears to be the core problem, TPTB in Ferguson ... that, and the
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 11:12 AM
Aug 2014

imbalance of black people not being in the power structure.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
6. It is rooted in that, isn't it! I was monitoring several video streams of Ferguson
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 11:49 AM
Aug 2014

last night and the racism by those making comments was horrific, absolutely horrific. There is so much racism and hatred in this country it's frightening. There are many cities and towns like Ferguson IMO in this country, the catalyst just hasn't occurred. I though after the sixties things would improve, but the past years have certainty brought out how much was under the rug.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
10. Yup, there has never been escape velocity from the gravity well of dehumanizing
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:35 PM
Aug 2014

black folk for hundreds of years, America is too quick to believe we really can move forward without understanding and addressing the past because the past doesn't go anywhere it is carried forward and cannot help but to be the foundation the future is built on.

We have never been really human, much less equal. Half tamed savages at best for even the more progressive leaning folks, quick to run with any semblance of an excuse to see any evidence of the savage so that seeing black people treated as such can be justified and excused.

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
3. If you can't vote your signature is meaningless.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 11:23 AM
Aug 2014

How many of the adult citizens of that town are allowed to vote or aren't afraid to even show up at the polls because of an outstanding warrant or being pulled aside to be questioned about a family member or friend's outstanding warrant?

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
7. I've been wondering the same, in fact at one point I was wondering if there
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 11:56 AM
Aug 2014

were a mayor and city council. I searched on Google and saw some statements by them ... but I would think the mayor and city council would be at the forefront of this ... instead they, seem to be in hiding ... letting the cops run the city. It is a deplorable display in Ferguson IMO, text book case IMO of doing everything wrong.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
8. "Shut up and vote!"
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:20 PM
Aug 2014

Sorry but people can protest when they damn well please and register to vote.

1st they tell people to protest in the daytime

2nd they'll tell people to keep moving and don't stop at any time

3rd they'll say no cameras or media because the videos could incite violence

4th they'll conduct door to door searches

5th they'll tell people that they can only voice their opinions in designated areas "for their own safety" and everyone will be kettled off to churches

With that said, the NYC, Oakland and Los Angeles are true blue areas but the police are EXTREMELY aggressive. When it comes to police abuse and violations of people's civil rights we need a lot more than just voting (although it is a start).

...IMO

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
11. no
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:38 PM
Aug 2014

. . . it will give the police the impetus to define all nighttime demonstrations as a criminal element and illegal action.

Their wanton arrest and release policy and practice is a deliberate stifling of these protests. Standing in the street in that town is something akin to a capital offense for those officers.

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