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Heads up: Johnson to speak "in minutes": (Original Post) joshcryer Aug 2014 OP
What the heck is on that table? nt Live and Learn Aug 2014 #1
My guess is weapons confiscated. joshcryer Aug 2014 #3
Called it, guns. joshcryer Aug 2014 #6
Moltov in the middle, couldn't make it out at first. joshcryer Aug 2014 #7
They found that molotov in the bed of a pickup that they stopped. countryjake Aug 2014 #19
A prayer at a press briefing? nt Live and Learn Aug 2014 #2
I think someone died or got injured tonight. joshcryer Aug 2014 #5
They've been saying that two were shot, but the pics I saw weren't bad. countryjake Aug 2014 #9
Two people shot and injured. joshcryer Aug 2014 #10
thats gotta be pure PR Joe Shlabotnik Aug 2014 #8
Yeah - what the fuckity- fuck? how utterly inappropriate. kath Aug 2014 #18
Praying countryjake Aug 2014 #4
Fascinating, Johnson calling for people to protest tomorrow, in daylight. joshcryer Aug 2014 #11
Yep. nt Live and Learn Aug 2014 #12
"media had to be repeatedly asked to" go back to sidewalk and get out of road... steve2470 Aug 2014 #13
Was with him until that point. joshcryer Aug 2014 #15
Now I think he's talking about the woman who reported on that truck... countryjake Aug 2014 #35
Johnson bashing the media for being in streets. joshcryer Aug 2014 #14
correct, media was always on the sidewalk and out of the roads nt steve2470 Aug 2014 #16
There is one moment when they stepped forward, and took pics. joshcryer Aug 2014 #20
True and they were using that noise machine long before anything happened. nt Live and Learn Aug 2014 #17
That machine, LADAR or whatever it's called, needs to be banned. joshcryer Aug 2014 #21
Well, it's a great thing to use at a police riot. kath Aug 2014 #22
Can't be good for your hearing either and it affects everyone Live and Learn Aug 2014 #24
I mean, even if I was there peacefully, I might become agitated. joshcryer Aug 2014 #30
I agree, joshcryer. n/t Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #36
I think that's what he doesn't want "glamorized". countryjake Aug 2014 #40
I think that part is absolutely true. joshcryer Aug 2014 #41
I will, too. I was in the bathroom when they started with the sonic blasts... countryjake Aug 2014 #42
Some guy found earplugs on the ground. joshcryer Aug 2014 #43
PLUS ONE, a whole bunch! Enthusiast Aug 2014 #44
Not bashing, elleng Aug 2014 #29
If it's untrue, I consider it bashing. joshcryer Aug 2014 #32
his comments about glamorizing by the media annoyed me a tad steve2470 Aug 2014 #23
I actually agree with it, *however*, we have constitutional rights. joshcryer Aug 2014 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Aug 2014 #25
I lost all respect for this guy. NutmegYankee Aug 2014 #26
I think his heart is in the right place but he's not in control. joshcryer Aug 2014 #28
Yes. No one is in control. elleng Aug 2014 #33
Didn't, said they can't tell, sometimes, who is a journalist. elleng Aug 2014 #31
They changed the narrative throughout the night. joshcryer Aug 2014 #34
thank you, josh Cha Aug 2014 #37
What's next? Embedding reporters with the St. Louis County PD and octoberlib Aug 2014 #38
They need to. joshcryer Aug 2014 #39

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
19. They found that molotov in the bed of a pickup that they stopped.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 03:30 AM
Aug 2014

I read that on twitter, too. And two of the people who were in the cab of that truck were packing pistols.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
9. They've been saying that two were shot, but the pics I saw weren't bad.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 03:26 AM
Aug 2014

I read on twitter that two people were arrested who were packing pistols.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
15. Was with him until that point.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 03:29 AM
Aug 2014

I've really not been impressed with how the media has been treated here.

I think his heart is in the right place, but I think that's the wrong thing to do, don't mess with the media.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
35. Now I think he's talking about the woman who reported on that truck...
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 03:44 AM
Aug 2014

Lawrence O'Donnell talked to her tonight on his show, she said that a pick-up had pulled up just as the cops were dispersing the crowd. The driver asked if anyone needed a ride out of the area and a bunch of young protesters jumped into the back. She said that so many got on, that it was almost scraping bottom as it pulled away. The cops pulled that truck over a little ways down the road and she ran down there and took pictures of them arresting everybody in it. Her name was Amanda. I was on her twitter page but closed it out and now I can't remember her hashtag. (deleted all my cookies about a half hour ago)

That truck is where the guns and molotov cocktail were found. The driver must have been trying to use the kids as cover, since Capt. Johnson said they'd been tracking him. But they arrested every one of the young protesters, minutes after they'd jumped in. And the cops were really not pleased that Amanda was trying to get a pic of it, according to what she told O'Donnell

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
14. Johnson bashing the media for being in streets.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 03:28 AM
Aug 2014

False. I watched it all night Johnson. Your higher ups are wrong.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
20. There is one moment when they stepped forward, and took pics.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 03:32 AM
Aug 2014

Got on their knees. But they got up right afterward and got back on the sidewalk. The reporters have been very compliant, the whole time, I have been posting about it all night. I want the reporters to be non-compliant, for crying out loud. It's their right to report.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
21. That machine, LADAR or whatever it's called, needs to be banned.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 03:33 AM
Aug 2014
I was getting my blood pressure and heart rate up just listening to it. It serves no purpose but to agitate.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
30. I mean, even if I was there peacefully, I might become agitated.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 03:40 AM
Aug 2014

And I might do something stupid, maybe throw a rock. That's bad. But I can see myself doing it. We didn't have those in Seattle 99 and we only threw teddy bears, but you probably know what I'm saying.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
40. I think that's what he doesn't want "glamorized".
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 04:04 AM
Aug 2014

When he said that the "media glamorizes the activities of a disruptive few" all I could think of was when they fired off all the smoke bombs, tear gas, and blasted everyone with LRADs.

That's obviously what he doesn't want the media to show.

If he says he's inspired by the people of Ferguson, why the hell did they arrest 31 of them tonight? He said himself that the protesters weren't aggressive.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
41. I think that part is absolutely true.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 04:08 AM
Aug 2014

I think about it from a completely different angle, though. Because police agitation is going to cause more protesters to come out and resist. He doesn't want that at all. I think there is an absolute right to report on excessive police actions. The machine in particular serves no positive purpose. It's literally a nightmare machine. I may have nightmares about it tonight.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
42. I will, too. I was in the bathroom when they started with the sonic blasts...
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 04:16 AM
Aug 2014

and probably damaged the speakers of our computer. I couldn't imagine how terrifying it was to be there.

That LRAD crap is something else!

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
43. Some guy found earplugs on the ground.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 04:21 AM
Aug 2014

He made a dumb tweet about them being bullets or something (claimed he was joking or whatever). I wished I had them on an iPhone recording streamed to YouTube through headphones! Stupid ass machine and whoever invented it needs help. It's not doing what it's intended to do. It might scare off irregulars (people who weren't protesting but were in the area and seeing what was going on), but protesters are going to be seriously annoyed by it.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
32. If it's untrue, I consider it bashing.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 03:41 AM
Aug 2014

I watched it the whole night, the reporters were extremely cooperative. Even when they were being led around the city to various checkpoints which sent them to random locations.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
27. I actually agree with it, *however*, we have constitutional rights.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 03:37 AM
Aug 2014

So the media being there and potentially making protesters more active, is a good thing, that's the whole point of the bill of rights. Free speech, free press. Simple. Free as in freedom, of course.

Basically I see it as victim blaming even if some of the media is glamorizing it or putting their heads out there and making the drama excessive.

Response to joshcryer (Original post)

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
28. I think his heart is in the right place but he's not in control.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 03:39 AM
Aug 2014

I don't think anyone is in control. I'm glad at least he called for daytime protest.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
34. They changed the narrative throughout the night.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 03:42 AM
Aug 2014

First it was "reporters" then it was "credentialed reporters" because a lot of individuals on the streets would just pull their phone out and claim they were journalists (which, in fact, in the information age, they become as soon as they start recording).

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
39. They need to.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 04:03 AM
Aug 2014

Stop playing the con game with reporters at this point, I'm dead serious. If reporters aren't allowed to report, what's the damn point?

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