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niyad

(113,336 posts)
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 10:45 PM Aug 2014

Suicidal Rape Victim Denied Abortion in Ireland

(let us remember that ireland is the location of the horrors of the magdalen laundries)

Suicidal Rape Victim Denied Abortion in Ireland

A suicidal young woman who became pregnant as a result of rape was refused an abortion in Ireland.

The woman, now 18, was raped as a minor. When she discovered she was pregnant at eight weeks, she became suicidal and immediately tried to obtain an abortion under a clause in the new Protection of Life During Pregnancy Act. She could not bypass the law by going to England or another European country to obtain an abortion - like thousands of Irish women do each year - because she is not an Irish citizen.

In this case, two psychiatrists determined the young woman was suicidal and should have access to the procedure, but the obstetrician on the panel declared that the fetus was viable and should be delivered. After the panel's examination, the woman had to wait 17 full weeks to hear back about the outcome. She believes the government purposely delayed her case until the fetus was viable. When her request for an abortion was ultimately rejected, she started a hunger and water strike in protest but stopped when authorities threatened to put her on forced hydration. She then agreed to have a premature caesarean section at 25 weeks. The baby is expected to go into state care.

This case "illustrates quite clearly that women are treated as little more than incubators under Irish law," Sarah McCarthy, a spokesperson for Galway Pro-Choice, told The Guardian.

The Protection of Life During Pregnancy Act legalized abortions in cases only where there is a risk to the life of the mother, including thoughts of suicide. It was approved in July 2013 by Parliament after the 2012 death of Savita Halappanavar, a woman who died from an infection because she was not allowed to have an abortion, and the ensuing uproar over her death. It recently went into effect in January. Under the law, a panel of three doctors must examine each case and agree unanimously to allow a woman to have the procedure. While the Act is thought to be a step forward, Ireland's laws around abortion are still severely restrictive. Abortions are not allowed in any cases besides life endangerment, including cases of rape, incest, fetal abnormality, or if the fetus is not expected to survive outside of the womb.


http://www.msmagazine.com/news/uswirestory.asp?ID=15149

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theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
3. Yep -- and they will never give up on it
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 11:27 PM
Aug 2014

Look at the vicious and continual battles being waged right now over contraception, much less abortion rights.

Ireland is particularly oppressive when it comes to reproductive choice:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/11384532

alp227

(32,032 posts)
5. Speaking of which, I read in Conwebwatch today about a new anti-abortion book,
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 01:44 AM
Aug 2014

whose marketing pitch - get your barf bag ready - is "make America abortion free."

Pffffft. I see stories like this and see a trade-off between abortions or suicide & all sorts of worse stuff.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
10. Imagine if womem forced to give birth took a pledge to
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 09:54 PM
Aug 2014

only let a non-Chrisitian family or gay couple, or any other decent person adopt their baby. That would make Christian Conservative's heads explode.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
11. I agree with the basic point you are trying to make, but I believe there is something wrong with
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 10:39 PM
Aug 2014

your original premise.

You seem to be assuming that a woman denied an abortion (and unable to get one illegally) will then choose adoption as a second choice. That is not supported by the evidence. Most women in these situations will choose to parent. It is very difficult on a woman to give a baby up for adoption, and most birth mothers grieve the loss of that child for the rest of their days. Even a reunion or an open adoption cannot alleviate that pain.

~snip~

Of the turnaways in Foster’s study who gave birth, 9 percent eventually put their children up for adoption.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/16/magazine/study-women-denied-abortions.html?pagewanted=all

I agree that most right wing conservatives would go nuts if they heard about a pledge to let non-Christians or gays adopt a child.

niyad

(113,336 posts)
8. personally, I think hell is too good for them, and for all those who hate women (it's like they
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 09:14 PM
Aug 2014

never forgive us for giving birth to them)

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