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Well, well, well, it seems that Ferguson PD's attempts to make Michael Brown into a thug are about to backfire on them.
From Addictinginfo:
When the Ferguson police department released the name of Darren Wilson, they also chose to release video footage which they claimed was of Michael Brown robbing a convenience store for some cigars.
The problem is, the video shows Michael Brown at the register, paying for the cigars.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/08/18/ferguson-pd-busted/
For those of you like me who are CONFUSED....
HELP?!?
Where is the truth?
kp
napi21
(45,806 posts)Why did the man who looked like Michael pushing someone they claimed was the store clerk appear in the police video? I really HOPE this new video can be released and put the deception of the Ferguson cops out in the open and expose them for what they are.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)but Michael seems to be grabbing something that is behind the counter. I don't see money exchanged at all. I am not sure if that does any good for Michael at all. No matter, he should still be alive.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)This clip doesn't show Brown anywhere near the register, as far as I can tell.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Even if he stole the cigs and roughed up the clerk, he could have shown regret and possibly just give the clerk an apology. Now, he is no longer with us and for this????? So frustrating!
WillowTree
(5,325 posts).......and he's putting the handful of cigars that Michael handed him a little earlier back on the counter.
TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)Last edited Tue Aug 19, 2014, 01:03 PM - Edit history (1)
...from the first time I saw that video. I'm glad the store clerk is speaking up.
TYY
Edited to add: I must have misunderstood. I thought the clerk had come forward with a statement. An attorney for Ferguson Market made a statement that neither the store owner nor its employees called the police on Mike Brown.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)...of the clerk saying anything but I thought I read something in the first days of the 'robbery' video being released where the clerk made a statement. I don't remember where I read it.
The attorney for Ferguson Market made a statement that it wasn't anyone from the store, neither the owner nor its employees, that called the police. If there had truly been a 'strong arm robbery' it would seem that the store would have reported it to the police.
I think I read somewhere that a customer may have made the call; probably days later.
In the video, it looks to me like the kids put money on the counter. Also, it appears that they hand some of the swishers back when they don't have enough money.
Hopefully, the truth will eventually come out, either way.
Regardless, that cop still murdered Mike Brown and he needs to be charged with the murder and made to stand trial.
TYY
gordianot
(15,240 posts)Proves the Chief is really expendable bet he retires soon.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)So I am not sure as to what you are talking about.
janlyn
(735 posts)But there is a third young man. Who is not Mike Browns friend. Take something from the counter and stuffs it in his pocket. Then you see the store clerk come out and come past Mike towards the young man off camera. I think it is very likely that Mike didn't see this and thought the clerk was falesly accusing the other young man. That might explain the shove on the video the police released. Was Mike the type of young man, who would have stood up to a percieved injustice? I think it is possible and the FPD saw a way to make Mike the bad guy.
janlyn
(735 posts)the clerk only glances at mike as he passes him and proceeds out of view.
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)The third man appears to be the one who paid for purchases. Assuming it's the register toward the back of the store.
Not Mike Brown.
janlyn
(735 posts)but every store I have ever been in the register is by the door. Only speculation on my part. That was why I posed it with a question mark?
mlk68
(1 post)Exactly what I thought when I watched the tape. There's a third young man wearing blue jeans. He's at the far end of the counter and it looks like he takes something from a shelf and puts it in his pocket. When Michael is leaving the store with his friend Dorian, you can see the third guy standing just outside the door of the store. Was this young man questioned? Did the store clerk accuse him of a theft? Was Michael annoyed that the clerk accused him? (Michael doesn't appear to see the third guy put something in his pocket). The tape is utterly unclear and proves NOTHING. Hardly a "strong-armed" robbery. Yes, Michael shoves the clerk--bad behavior. That much is true. But he then moves toward the clerk and almost makes a stereotypical gesture of threat, as if he's playing the role of "scary big black man" because he knows that's how the clerk perceives him. Clearly his actions weren't deemed serious enough for the clerk to call the police. Compare this to the video of the white college guys who stole $150 worth of food from a restaurant's walk in freezer several months ago. These white guys were caught on video laughing and preening in their underwear, apparently confident that their buff bodies and self-satisfied smiles would charm people into viewing their crime as "harmless"--just "boys being boys"-which I guess is okay unless you happen to be a black boy......It's gotta take its toll on you when every day of your life you're viewed with suspicion and fear simply because you're a large black man, or in this case, a large black boy........Put yourself in his shoes. I'm amazed at his restraint........
VScott
(774 posts)FERGUSON, Mo. (AP) - The friend who was with Michael Brown when he was shot and killed by a police officer near St. Louis over the weekend is reportedly confirming that he and Brown had taken part in the theft of cigars from a convenience store that day.
That word comes from the attorney for Dorian Johnson, speaking to MSNBC. Police in Ferguson had earlier announced that Brown was suspected of taking cigars from the convenience store in what was described as a "strong-arm robbery."
http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/08/15/attorney-dorian-johnson-michael-brown-robbery/14118769/
Duppers
(28,125 posts)got caught shoplifting the cigars(cigarillos). Otherwise, why would the shopkeeper have tired to stop him from leaving the store w/o paying for the other items?
(From observation of other video clips.)
I've worked as a cashier and have seen this sort of thing happen.
However, in NO way can this justify murdering a person! It's obvious that Ferguson's entire law enforcement were and are out of control.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)And the snips are self serving to the police.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Johnson told the PD that they stole the cigars, but it was a prank.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)From the article....
Whatever words were exchanged between the man in the video and the store owner, they were not considered very serious, as the store owner nor the employees did not report a theft at the store. According to the stores attorney, the owners were bewildered when the police approached them demanding the surveillance tapes.
The store owners are now afraid of themselves becoming a target, due to the Ferguson PDs attempt to tie their store to the fateful shooting. A gross abuse of police authority, one which now puts someone else at risk.
Even if Michael Brown were a petty thief, this does not excuse the cold-blooded shooting death of the 18-year-old. Of course the right-wing took the robbery claim at face value, and began labeling Michael Brown as a thug who did not deserve due process.
But instead it looked like he was a teenager who was enjoying a few cigars which he purchased at the local store. The store owners did not claim he stole from them. Video evidence shows him paying for the cigars found on him. The police attempt to paint Michael Brown as anything but a victim is a complete and total fraud.
markpkessinger
(8,401 posts). . . but that doesn't make much sense either.The police are claiming that another customer called the police. I mean, if that had been the case, surely that customer would have informed the shop owner that he or she had witnessed a shoplifting and had called the police, wouldn't they? And if indeed a call came from another customer, then surely the police have a recording they can produce, right?
The Ferguson PD needs to produce the audio of the alleged call reporting the shoplifting.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)My mom's physical therapist was at the house this morning to give her a session. I had the news on TV and of course they were covering the Ferguson matter. Her therapist mentioned the convenience store tape as proof positive that Brown was a criminal, that he charged officer Wilson and justified the shooting and was "on something" (based on the opinion of an unidentified lady who called into a talk show claiming she was told that by the officer), and that Michael Brown was a drug user based on the leak that he had thc in his system.
Just a few minutes ago on CNN, they were mentioning the unidentified radio talk show lady and her completely unverified second hand hearsay account of Darren Wilson's version of the facts as though we should take this person seriously as a legitimate alternative to the other witnesses who have come forward with their full names and locations on the day of the shooting. Incredible.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)swisher sweets are always kept behind the counter, that is what he is reaching through to grab-
Guy in white shirt to his left meanwhile is with the clerk paying for his soda-
clerk sees grabbing of swisher sweets while giving other dude his change-
At 33 seconds he checks out the cutie that just walked in the store-
When clerk is done with the other dude he comes from behind the counter to say
stop calling them cigarillos by the way, they are swisher sweets (we use them to roll blunts FYI)