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kpete

(72,013 posts)
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 07:49 PM Aug 2014

"I CANNOT BELIEVE I STILL HAVE TO PROTEST THIS SHIT!!"

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https://twitter.com/callmedollar/statuses/500071682321551360

France Francois was concerned her sign may be perceived as "rage," but she held it up anyway because she had a right to feel angry. Ms. Francois held the sign at last week's National Moment Of Silence in DC.

"I'm glad it sparked some conversation because I think, throughout the nation, we're all asking ourselves this question," she said. 'How did we come here again? How did we find ourselves in this very same space?'"
Francois said the sentiment behind the sign is rooted to her days as a student at Florida State University when she protested the death of Martin Lee Anderson, a 14-year-old boy who died after being beaten by boot camp personnel. After months of silence from authorties over his death, Francois, along with other students from Tallahassee Community College, Florida A&M University and Florida State University staged a 34-hour sit-in at then- governor Jeb Bush's office, in Tallahassee, Fla.

http://www.alternet.org/woman-behind-powerful-mike-brown-protest-photo-defies-respectability-politics
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"I CANNOT BELIEVE I STILL HAVE TO PROTEST THIS SHIT!!" (Original Post) kpete Aug 2014 OP
Ain't that the truth n/t BronxBoy Aug 2014 #1
Amen to that. Punkingal Aug 2014 #2
Been Reported That Homeland Security billhicks76 Aug 2014 #21
No doubt they are there... Punkingal Aug 2014 #27
Yes, this and other things too. We've entered some sort of livetohike Aug 2014 #3
Seems like a lot of things that we fought for in the 60s are a battle ground again. It is depressing jwirr Aug 2014 #4
Yes, I fought for women's rights and now my granddaughter has to do the same. SharonAnn Aug 2014 #38
And poverty issues. We are going backwards in a era when we have new problems we should be jwirr Aug 2014 #39
And actually that's what's good about it johnlucas Aug 2014 #46
Hadn't thought about that. I am 73 years old and went through a few riots. Keep forgetting that jwirr Aug 2014 #49
I think this phenomenon starts when you hit about 30 or so johnlucas Aug 2014 #51
K&R jwirr Aug 2014 #52
Thanks to the corporatemedia and the republicons we do. I know redundant. Cha Aug 2014 #5
And guess what? While they're rolling back civil rights, they're picking our pockets n/t RufusTFirefly Aug 2014 #6
+ 1,000 cantbeserious Aug 2014 #8
I guess they figure if we are stupid enough to let them pick our pockets. zeemike Aug 2014 #14
I think that rolling back our civil rights is three things. F4lconF16 Aug 2014 #28
Damn right. So vote while you still can. riqster Aug 2014 #36
Truth rings from here TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #32
I'm sad that she was worried about appearing rageful tavalon Aug 2014 #7
Thank you, tavalon, for following through on this... truth2power Aug 2014 #16
I just watched John Oliver on his new show, tavalon Aug 2014 #20
Amen. n/t truth2power Aug 2014 #22
Hell, yes, it's our cause. roody Aug 2014 #25
+1 uponit7771 Aug 2014 #31
amen kpete Aug 2014 #33
tavalon, this IS your cause. You are WE. We are YOU. johnlucas Aug 2014 #48
John, that was so well written mimi85 Aug 2014 #55
Thank you tavalon Aug 2014 #56
depressing k and r niyad Aug 2014 #9
Make This Go Viral billhicks76 Aug 2014 #10
How did we come here again? BobbyBoring Aug 2014 #11
Perfect sign of the times, it really covers so many issues.. AuntPatsy Aug 2014 #12
It should be that all racists are made to feel unwelcome and unacceptable everywhere in the USA. L0oniX Aug 2014 #13
Great sign bigwillq Aug 2014 #15
Amen.... daleanime Aug 2014 #17
Yep, I know that one. nt Zorra Aug 2014 #18
But isn't this partly the fault of us being Buddha2B Aug 2014 #19
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2014 #23
"How did we come here again?" moondust Aug 2014 #24
moondust kpete Aug 2014 #34
Yes… MrMickeysMom Aug 2014 #26
I love her shirt. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #29
I love her shirt too kpete Aug 2014 #35
The forces of fear, hate and ignorance are powerful indeed. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #53
+1 uponit7771 Aug 2014 #30
Yes, absolutely! Blue_In_AK Aug 2014 #37
K/R Jack Rabbit Aug 2014 #40
I give this a K & R Lifelong Protester Aug 2014 #41
"I CANNOT BELIEVE I STILL HAVE TO PROTEST THIS SHIT!!" Jamaal510 Aug 2014 #42
Healthy rage, in my book! Helen Borg Aug 2014 #43
Voter participation in the last municipal election in Ferguson, MO was 12%. cheapdate Aug 2014 #44
that's what happens when we give 1200 coordinated radio stations a free speech free ride certainot Aug 2014 #45
Here is the Original from last year... Moral Monday in NC. littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #47
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Aug 2014 #50
Stand together or fall alone.... Johnny Noshoes Aug 2014 #54
 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
21. Been Reported That Homeland Security
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 10:49 PM
Aug 2014

Has been command and control since the beginning. This makes sense because every town I have seen that has a big protest had Homeland Security vehicles first on the scene. And they always are running things. Those Feds live close by and would take over instantly as they always do. This is being underreported by the naive media.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
4. Seems like a lot of things that we fought for in the 60s are a battle ground again. It is depressing
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 08:04 PM
Aug 2014

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
39. And poverty issues. We are going backwards in a era when we have new problems we should be
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 10:56 AM
Aug 2014

addressing like climate control and here we are once again back in the 60s.

 

johnlucas

(1,250 posts)
46. And actually that's what's good about it
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 02:22 PM
Aug 2014

The Confederates couldn't wait long enough to be themselves & that impatience presents an opportunity to root them out of this country's political consciousness once & for all.

Time makes people forget.
The struggles your ancestors faced get taken for granted.
Newer generations get spoiled & they start to forget what's at stake.

There are some in the newer generations like me who look back lovingly at those freedom fights captured in black & white.
And tragedies like this give the newer generations a chance to participate in their OWN freedom fight.

The Confederates just couldn't wait long enough to let the memories fade.
People's parents & grandparents who lived through this time can pass on the history & the lessons.
This is what happens when you see those long lines at the voting booth.

But a voting booth line is just a taste.
Now they get to participate in the real thing.

The Confederates in their predictable overreach have UNITED people.
AGAINST THEM.

The killings are extremely sad but the outcome will make you extremely happy.
The Confederates' time is up. History is being made as we speak.
CHANGE Is Coming.
John Lucas

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
49. Hadn't thought about that. I am 73 years old and went through a few riots. Keep forgetting that
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 02:49 PM
Aug 2014

there are so many who do not remember.

 

johnlucas

(1,250 posts)
51. I think this phenomenon starts when you hit about 30 or so
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 03:17 PM
Aug 2014

Like when you remember a TV show or a song & quote it.
Some of the ones younger than you don't know what the HELL you're talking about.
And you look at them crazy because OF COURSE they should remember!
Then you realize "Damn Diff'rent Strokes came out in 1978 & these kids were born in 1999. How WOULD they know?!"

I mean sure with reruns & oldies stations the younger ones can get familiar but most likely they just ain't gonna know offhand.

I was born in 1976, close enough to the 1950's/1960's Civil Rights Movement to know of somewhat, not TOO far out to forget.
Think about somebody born in 2004, 40 years after the Civil Rights Act passed.
How is that person gonna appreciate what those times mean really?

I know videogame history being born only 4 years after the videogame industry began in 1972.
I lived the whole thing & saw all the evolutions.
How do I convey this knowledge to kids born in 2010?
THEY won't even remember the Wii era much less the eras of the PlayStations not to mention the Sega vs. Nintendo wars not to mention the Atari era!
It's all abstract & ancient history because they live in a newer time.

Some will listen to your stories & be in awe at the past.
Others will be bored as you tell those old stories.

Luckily I was shown the music of the 1960s & always had appreciation for Booker T & the MGs.
They ain't gonna know if we don't show them.
And sometimes that ain't even enough.
Sometimes they gotta live it themselves.

The past carries a lot of burdens, that's for sure.
But the past hides some gems as well & some look back to rediscover them.
Sometimes what's old is new all over again.
Everything goes in cycles on Planet Earth.
John Lucas

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
14. I guess they figure if we are stupid enough to let them pick our pockets.
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 10:10 PM
Aug 2014

They might as well roll back civil rights too.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
28. I think that rolling back our civil rights is three things.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 03:18 AM
Aug 2014

One, a distraction for letting them pick our pockets.

Look, gay rights!--something that shouldn't be a big issue now, but still is because of the right's stirring up of their base. If it weren't for leadership attacking LGBT, then I think most people wouldn't care. Also, on the flip side: hey white people! Criminal thugs are taking your shit! It's them, not us!

Two, a side effect of letting them pick our pockets.

The farther rightward they go economically (which helps them), the more rightward they're forced to go socially. Hence, tea party hatred and idiocy furthering civil rights rollback.

Three, and most importantly, a way to pick our pockets.
If you can't vote, you can't remove their hands from our pockets. It's that simple.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
7. I'm sad that she was worried about appearing rageful
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 09:29 PM
Aug 2014

She has every right to feel rage, anger, disgust, sadness, frustration................ An unarmed teen was murdered by a police officer.

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
16. Thank you, tavalon, for following through on this...
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 10:17 PM
Aug 2014

Someone (I don't remember who it was) started a thread a day or two ago. The title of the thread was, "Why do we take the bait" and the poster encouraged everyone to say, over and over, when the smear artists start their bull shit....

An unarmed teen (or black teen) was murdered by a police officer. That is the ONLY relevant issue.

An unarmed teen was murdered by a police officer.

An unarmed teen was murdered by a police officer.

An unarmed teen was murdered by a police officer.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
20. I just watched John Oliver on his new show,
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 10:42 PM
Aug 2014

say those identical words as the opening line to a phenomenal 15 minute segment on Ferguson and the race issues they have there.

So, I'm not the only one staying on point and his staying on point is so helpful to our cause.

I feel vaguely weird as a white woman, calling this "our cause", but damn it, what happens to one of us happens to us all. Racism must be ostracized to the point where it gets forgotten. I don't want it back in the closet, I want it gone.

 

johnlucas

(1,250 posts)
48. tavalon, this IS your cause. You are WE. We are YOU.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 02:32 PM
Aug 2014

That's been the entire problem the whole time.
White folks not identifying with us as one of them.

You remember what that Niemöller guy said.

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."


This IS your cause.
And when White people join the Black people & every other non-White in this country, the evil of White Supremacy, of White Dominion will be defeated once & for all.
THEN and ONLY THEN will this country make good on that slogan E Pluribus Unum.
Out of Many, One.

Don't feel weird.
It only feels weird because it's not done nearly enough.
When these Confederate Gestapo see White folks protesting in the streets with the Black folks then they will know they are defeated for sure.
Who are they gonna fire on then?

Speak out! Get up, stand up! Stand up for your rights!

The Civil War was fought long before 1861 & it continues on long after 1865.
Racial subjugation & hatred go to the very origins of this country.
It will NEVER be what it is supposed to be until that sickness is excised.
When you see this battle as your own, you will speed up the day when the sickness is healed.

John Lucas

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
56. Thank you
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 09:11 PM
Aug 2014

That is how I feel. This is not a "black problem". This is our problem. All of us. And we need to fix it.

BobbyBoring

(1,965 posts)
11. How did we come here again?
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 09:52 PM
Aug 2014

Near as I can tell, the election of a 1/2 black President is "Partially to blame".
Wish I could offer more than that, but I'm empty,!

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
13. It should be that all racists are made to feel unwelcome and unacceptable everywhere in the USA.
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 10:05 PM
Aug 2014

IMO anyone connected to the KKK should be kicked out. They should have no part or home in what America is today. This country is a melting pot ...and that's real core USA. If you want everyone to be like you then move back to that fucked up country you think is your fatherland ...but don't try to make this one your racist home.

Buddha2B

(116 posts)
19. But isn't this partly the fault of us being
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 10:42 PM
Aug 2014

But isn't this partly the fault of us being lulled into a false sense of accomplishment, while the right wing reactionaries simply plot behind the scenes to tear down everything we built?

The class war has never stopped, it's just that a lot of people fooled themselves with a comfortable middle class lifestyle that everything was fairyland.

I've seen sexism, bigotry and racism is some right wingers to make me believe no progress ever occurred.

moondust

(20,002 posts)
24. "How did we come here again?"
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 11:13 PM
Aug 2014

Progressive moral decay of creeping corporatism. Too many people chasing profits at any cost and no longer committed to truth, justice, or equality. JMO



K/R

kpete

(72,013 posts)
34. moondust
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 09:15 AM
Aug 2014

what YOU said!

Too many people chasing profits at any cost and no longer committed to truth, justice, or equality


peace,
kp

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
26. Yes…
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 01:05 AM
Aug 2014

Why?

I think because this is their last ditch effort to control us… that couldn't be more clear.

kpete

(72,013 posts)
35. I love her shirt too
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 09:20 AM
Aug 2014

but we have fought this battle
for what seems FOREVER
- over a difference in melamine?



peace to us all,
kp

Uncle Joe

(58,405 posts)
53. The forces of fear, hate and ignorance are powerful indeed.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 03:24 PM
Aug 2014

It may take another hundred years or so to overcome them, even then they will be buried in the human psyche awaiting extreme circumstance; coupled with demagoguery to bring them to the surface.

Having said that I believe the forces of understanding, acceptance and agapae love are making progress but it's most definitely a marathon battle full of hills and vales.

Peace to us all.
UJ

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
41. I give this a K & R
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:51 PM
Aug 2014

If you aren't wondering "I CANNOT BELIEVE I STILL HAVE TO PROTEST THIS SHIT!!", you aren't paying attention!

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
42. "I CANNOT BELIEVE I STILL HAVE TO PROTEST THIS SHIT!!"
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:59 PM
Aug 2014

This is like a recurring theme among many of today's issues. With police brutality, voting rights, women's rights, poverty programs, corporations, and so on, these are all issues that many thought were settled decades ago, yet are still being fought over. While some of us want to bring the country into the 21st century, there is another force that ultimately wants it to regress back to how it was before the 20th century.

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
44. Voter participation in the last municipal election in Ferguson, MO was 12%.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 01:32 PM
Aug 2014

Among African-Americans eligible to vote, a mere 6% made the effort to do so.

Let that sink in.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
45. that's what happens when we give 1200 coordinated radio stations a free speech free ride
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 02:13 PM
Aug 2014

to rewrite history, sabotage the national discourse, and give the 400 racist homophobic misogynist think tank coordinated shits the bully pulpit

littlemissmartypants

(22,747 posts)
47. Here is the Original from last year... Moral Monday in NC.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 02:27 PM
Aug 2014
http://teamsternation.blogspot.com/2013/06/ncs-biggest-moral-monday-crowd-yet.html?m=1



In response to the devastating blows to women's health care rights. The motorcycle vagina bill, voted on in the middle of the night. While Wendy Davis filibustered in Texas, NC screwed it's female citizens.

Shine a light.

Love, Peace and the Righteous Fight!
~ Lmsp
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