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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 05:46 PM Aug 2014

Al Sharpton criticizes Hillary Clinton for staying silent on Ferguson...

Rev. Al Sharpton on Monday criticized potential presidential hopefuls like former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) for keeping silent on the turmoil in Ferguson, Mo.

"This is now a national, central issue and anyone running for President needs to come up with a formula or — in my opinion — they forfeit their right to be taken seriously," Sharpton said on MSNBC.

The civil rights leader and MSNBC called out Clinton, Christie and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) by name. Sharpton caught himself after listing Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) among the bunch, presumably because the senator jumped into the discussion on Thursday with an op-ed in TIME magazine.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sharpton-hillary-clinton-christie-ferguson

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Pressure builds on Clinton to speak out on Ferguson
08/18/14 05:12 PM—UPDATED 08/18/14 05:19 PM


With the nation gripped by the unrest in Ferguson, Missouri, seemingly every political leader has weighed in, from President Barack Obama to ideological leaders like Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren and Republican Sen. Ted Cruz. But there’s one conspicuous exception – Hillary Clinton.

In the week since a police officer shot and killed unarmed teenager Michael Brown, critics have noted that the former secretary of state and likely 2016 presidential contender has partied on Martha’s Vineyard, signed books with celebrities in the Hamptons, and settled into a week of vacation on Long Island, but she has yet to say anything publicly about Ferguson.

A spokesperson for Clinton declined to comment again on Monday

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/pressure-builds-clinton-speak-out-ferguson

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Al Sharpton criticizes Hillary Clinton for staying silent on Ferguson... (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Aug 2014 OP
i can kind of see both sides here because anything she says will be reported in terms of a JI7 Aug 2014 #1
If Goldman Sachs got shot she'd be all over the TV elehhhhna Aug 2014 #8
Maybe because NO ONE KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED YET! nt Logical Aug 2014 #2
we know an unarmed person was shot multiple times and killed JI7 Aug 2014 #3
True, but not if he was rushing the cop or not. Nt Logical Aug 2014 #9
We certainly know what has happened since the shooting. DesMoinesDem Aug 2014 #5
Yup, maybe Brown was really Juggernaut and the cop had a magic bullet that turned him mortal? TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #10
Pretty worthless answer, thank goodness the FBI is investigating ant not you! nt Logical Aug 2014 #13
And people are criticizing Al for not staying for the night rally after he has mfcorey1 Aug 2014 #4
Recommended. The Third Way does not make for courage and conviction. mmonk Aug 2014 #6
I'm as skeptical of a Clinton candidacy as anyone gratuitous Aug 2014 #7
Yep, it's starting to put me off on her. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #11
She's damned if she does, damned if she doesn't... joeybee12 Aug 2014 #12
That's probably exactly how she saw it, too DFW Aug 2014 #14
She is a private citizen who has no obligation to speak out on anything. NaturalHigh Aug 2014 #15
True, but she has spoken out about ISIS, Syria, etc. ecstatic Aug 2014 #17
But Rev. Jackson is there, and he won the S. Carolina primary in 1988... Motown_Johnny Aug 2014 #16
Best she keep quiet because of her habit of flubbing messages up. JaydenD Aug 2014 #18

JI7

(89,262 posts)
1. i can kind of see both sides here because anything she says will be reported in terms of a
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 05:55 PM
Aug 2014

presidential run and she might be accused of exploiting the event to get support for herself.

and you know how the media will report on it and turn it into some 2016 thing .

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
8. If Goldman Sachs got shot she'd be all over the TV
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 06:05 PM
Aug 2014

she needs (and surely takes for granted) the black vote but she knows who her real constituency is, hello!

TheKentuckian

(25,029 posts)
10. Yup, maybe Brown was really Juggernaut and the cop had a magic bullet that turned him mortal?
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 06:18 PM
Aug 2014

Or maybe the cop didn't shoot at all and it was gun toting THUGS that shot Brown to make it look like a police slaughter and disappeared without notice.

Or maybe this kid got the officer's gun away, shot himself, and threw the gun back to the cop with his dying effort.

Maybe Brown was a TERRORIST and the officer was only following orders directly from OBAMA!

Who knows what really happened??? Maybe it is Schroedinger's Mike Brown and depending on what we do next he is still alive and since we haven't seen the cop, fuck he might even end up killed to or instead.

Fuck knows what has or maypossiblywill conceivably happen upon a time?!? We may well find none of this is real, we might be holograms, fucking holograms man! You can't kill a hologram, dude! It's just a trick of light, Bra!

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
6. Recommended. The Third Way does not make for courage and conviction.
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 06:02 PM
Aug 2014

Certainly not with the abandoned coalitions of the past.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
7. I'm as skeptical of a Clinton candidacy as anyone
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 06:04 PM
Aug 2014

But right this minute, Hillary Clinton is not an elected official, isn't running for anything, and really I'm not sure what authority she might have to weigh in on what's happening in Ferguson. Bland declaration of concern? Why bother? It won't help the situation, and will take some focus off of where (in my opinion) it should be: Ferguson, Missouri.

Now, if there are people in office who feel like they have something to contribute, by all means.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
11. Yep, it's starting to put me off on her.
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 06:19 PM
Aug 2014

I've been a very vocal advocate for Hillary in 2016, but if she doesn't show some leadership on this issue, I'm going to have to consider the options.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
12. She's damned if she does, damned if she doesn't...
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 06:20 PM
Aug 2014

How many here would have called it grandstanding had she said anything? Quite a lot, I bet.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
14. That's probably exactly how she saw it, too
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 06:25 PM
Aug 2014

Anything she says not completely based on pure fact can and will be used against her in a court of public opinion.

I think she's wise to shut up for now, especially as she is no position to do anything about it either way.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
15. She is a private citizen who has no obligation to speak out on anything.
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 06:35 PM
Aug 2014

Al Sharpton just loves to hear himself talk. He knows that anything Clinton says will be blasted by half the country no matter what.

ecstatic

(32,729 posts)
17. True, but she has spoken out about ISIS, Syria, etc.
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 07:43 PM
Aug 2014

What about the unrest right here in this country?!

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
16. But Rev. Jackson is there, and he won the S. Carolina primary in 1988...
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 07:40 PM
Aug 2014

.. so why should any Clinton get involved with this?




For those who have already forgotten...


http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/24/black-congressman-denounces-b-clintons-remarks/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0


^snip^


Black Leader in House Denounces Bill Clinton’s Remarks


The third-ranking Democrat in the House of Representatives and one of the country’s most influential African-American leaders sharply criticized former President Bill Clinton this afternoon for what he called Mr. Clinton’s “bizarre” conduct during the Democratic primary campaign.

Representative James E. Clyburn, an undeclared superdelegate from South Carolina who is the Democratic whip in the House, said that “black people are incensed over all of this,” referring to statements that Mr. Clinton had made in the course of the heated race between his wife, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, and Senator Barack Obama.

Mr. Clinton was widely criticized by black leaders after he equated the eventual victory of Mr. Obama in South Carolina in January to that of the Rev. Jesse Jackson in 1988 – a parallel that many took as an attempt to diminish Mr. Obama’s success in the campaign. In a radio interview in Philadelphia on Monday, Mr. Clinton defended his remarks and said the Obama campaign had “played the race card on me” by making an issue of those comments.



 

JaydenD

(294 posts)
18. Best she keep quiet because of her habit of flubbing messages up.
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 07:47 PM
Aug 2014

Although I wouldn't mind another laugh or two provided by the most loved and popular woman in the world! hah.

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