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alsame

(7,784 posts)
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 07:31 PM Aug 2014

Ferguson PD changes story again

Anyone watching Hardball?

Kornaki and guests are saying that late today Chief Jackson said that although Darren Wilson initially stopped the boys for jaywalking, he then saw the cigars in their hands and connected them to the robbery.

Also claiming that journalists in Ferguson were dumbfounded when the robbery report was released and Jackson claimed they had requested it - none of them even knew about the robbery. What they had requested was the incident report OF THE SHOOTING, which has not been released.

More lies.

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Ferguson PD changes story again (Original Post) alsame Aug 2014 OP
Didn't he say earlier in the day that the cop avebury Aug 2014 #1
I believe so. nt alsame Aug 2014 #2
Quite definitively. nt ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #3
I hope that the cop is not planning on having the avebury Aug 2014 #4
At this point I'm guessing Wilson is hoping Jackson will just STFU already. TrollBuster9090 Aug 2014 #7
My understanding was that the shooting took place about 15 minutes after the store incident, TrollBuster9090 Aug 2014 #6
Police report putting out a radio call with an exact description of Brown's clothing alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #8
The guests were saying that Jackson alsame Aug 2014 #10
"and is obviously making it up as he goes along" fishwax Aug 2014 #11
The second radio call with a description went out at 11:57 alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #13
But Jackson claimed that Wilson alsame Aug 2014 #15
That was indeed his previous statement alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #18
Exactly, it's all BS. nt alsame Aug 2014 #20
What a shock alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #5
The Chief said that in an interview pinboy3niner Aug 2014 #9
They were still looking for the robbery suspects hours Downwinder Aug 2014 #12
There's something weird about that... cui bono Aug 2014 #23
They trying to tell me that the Cop Downwinder Aug 2014 #25
If this were so they would have said it immediately n2doc Aug 2014 #14
My question is GP6971 Aug 2014 #16
this chief has no clue what he is doing Takket Aug 2014 #17
I've experienced that problem with public records requests. Baitball Blogger Aug 2014 #19
This is what police officers and innvestigators drool over rustydog Aug 2014 #21
Even if he and his friend had just robbed the store of cigars, there is absolutely no justification Voice for Peace Aug 2014 #22
When the alibi changes every five minutes, somebody's lying. hobbit709 Aug 2014 #24
And isn't Wilson off to parts unknown? riqster Aug 2014 #26
Assuming there IS a Wilson SwankyXomb Aug 2014 #27
From your lips to God's ear. riqster Aug 2014 #28

avebury

(10,952 posts)
1. Didn't he say earlier in the day that the cop
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 07:34 PM
Aug 2014

didn't even know about the alleged shoplifting incident?

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
7. At this point I'm guessing Wilson is hoping Jackson will just STFU already.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 07:42 PM
Aug 2014

When you're in a hole, stop digging.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
6. My understanding was that the shooting took place about 15 minutes after the store incident,
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 07:41 PM
Aug 2014

and A) There wouldn't have been time to get the report through the system in that short a time, and B) I don't think they put out an APB on Brown or anything.

If Jackass (er...Jackson) is now claiming that Wilson knew about the convenience store incident, and was stopping them in relation to it (even if the original reason was j-walking) he'll have to back it up with a timeline. ie-did the dispatcher, or patrol car computer system actually SEND OUT information on the store incident, and if so, when.

If this idiot can't do that, and is just blowing smoke out of his ass, he should be fired immediately.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
8. Police report putting out a radio call with an exact description of Brown's clothing
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 07:47 PM
Aug 2014

That's in the incident report released today. Yes, that seems to have gone out within 15 minutes of the indicent at the store. Perhaps less. The first officer was on scene in 3 minutes, drove about half a mile and back, talked to the clerk, then put out the call with the description.

Again, that's what's in the report. Who knows what they really did.

Two cruisers were canvassing the area less than a quarter mile from the incident.

alsame

(7,784 posts)
10. The guests were saying that Jackson
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 07:48 PM
Aug 2014

got a lot of criticism for releasing the robbery report and then saying it was unrelated to the shooting. So they suspect he was trying to retrofit a connection. He's a very bad liar and is obviously making it up as he goes along.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
11. "and is obviously making it up as he goes along"
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 07:55 PM
Aug 2014

indeed. Thankfully (for the sake of justice) he's not very good at this.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
13. The second radio call with a description went out at 11:57
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 08:03 PM
Aug 2014

The initial dispatch mentioning cigars went out at 11:52.

Wilson shot and killed Brown at around 12:02 - 12:04.

alsame

(7,784 posts)
15. But Jackson claimed that Wilson
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 08:17 PM
Aug 2014

knew nothing about it because he was on 'a sick call'. But I expect him to say the opposite tomorrow.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
18. That was indeed his previous statement
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 08:35 PM
Aug 2014

There's no way they can claim he heard the second call and then only "connected the dots" when he saw the cigars as the second call was a pretty complete description of brown's clothing

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
5. What a shock
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 07:40 PM
Aug 2014

I've been predicting something like this for most of the afternoon (i.e., that they'll claim he stopped them for blocking traffic, but during their interaction, put them on the alleged robbery).

Needless to say, predicting that makes me a very bad person or something.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
9. The Chief said that in an interview
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 07:47 PM
Aug 2014

But that info could only have come from the shooter cop, whom the Chief said he did not interview.

So it would have to be second-hand info from the county PD investigators who did interview the cop.

But the Chief also said he would not relate anything he heard second-hand about the investigation.

The Chief appears to be full of contradictions.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
23. There's something weird about that...
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:00 PM
Aug 2014

The guy who was tweeting while it was happening said "apparently he stole some rellos" at 1:33pm pst.
https://twitter.com/TheePharoah/statuses/498205424714145793

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)
25. They trying to tell me that the Cop
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:06 PM
Aug 2014

would not have immediately been bragging about having caught the robbers? BS.

GP6971

(31,168 posts)
16. My question is
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 08:29 PM
Aug 2014

why is the police chief (and I use that term loosely) giving pressers when Capt Johnson has taken over?

Takket

(21,578 posts)
17. this chief has no clue what he is doing
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 08:33 PM
Aug 2014

if anyone should be able to keep a story straight, it is a police chief.

what is it going to take for this guy to get fired, and someone brought in to clean this mess up?

Baitball Blogger

(46,737 posts)
19. I've experienced that problem with public records requests.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 08:38 PM
Aug 2014

The police are very sly and will only give you what they think you're asking for. They will interpret your request in the narrowest of ways. It means that the person requesting the public records has to be up on the police's filing system.

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
21. This is what police officers and innvestigators drool over
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 08:48 PM
Aug 2014

the "suspect" changing his story to fit the alibi...something seems to be very fishy.
the police chief now says the officer did not know the victim was the robbery suspect...

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
22. Even if he and his friend had just robbed the store of cigars, there is absolutely no justification
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 09:48 PM
Aug 2014

for the murder. The cop just lost it.

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