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justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 07:25 PM Aug 2014

The story from Ferguson PD keeps changing

At the first presser, they released the incidence report and the officer's name
At the second presser, they stated and were asked numerous times why Brown was stopped and were told for jaywalking and that the officer knew nothing about the robbery
Now Steve Kernaki is saying the Chief has stated that the officer saw the cigerellos in his hand and put two and two together

What's the real story? They don't seem to realize that all of this makes them look suspicious and involved in a cover-up (which it most likely is)?

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justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
3. And yet Kernaki just said that the robbery incident report was completed
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 07:29 PM
Aug 2014

on the basis of the shooting reports (how the suspects were identified).

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
14. However, I don't know exactly what that log documents
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 08:29 PM
Aug 2014

While it is facile to say "the PD was still looking for him" that log has a cryptic entry at 12:09 PM stating "was advised".

So I don't know as I sit here just whose observation that was.

0rganism

(23,957 posts)
4. so if the cigars were held in his hand, Mike only had one hand free to try to take officer's gun...
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 07:31 PM
Aug 2014

i think this is more for the benefit of the Friday evening news than their official story for legal purposes. it makes their case 50% more difficult, they'll change the story again for the trial.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
5. According to Johnson's interview that Rev. Al showed he said Brown
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 07:33 PM
Aug 2014

had cigars in both hands, so how could he grab for a gun? The other witness says she saw Brown's hand on the outside of the SUV trying to pull away from the cop using his hands to push against the door...He must have an extra arm or two.

0rganism

(23,957 posts)
8. the police story will be the one on trial
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 07:41 PM
Aug 2014

the police know damn well how to frame the story to get their man off the hook. the county and state prosecuters are already aligned with the pd, and will not be pushing very hard for a conviction. the only possible conviction would be in federal court.

Johnson is already a compromised witness (friend of the murdered teen so obviously police-hostile, alleged accomplice to the robbery) and his character will be further impugned before the trial.

the other witnesses confirm that MB was killed away from the police car by multiple gunshots which is consistent with the pd's story so far. all that's left is for the pd to gin up a credible threat to the officer, which they're well on the way to doing. unless the pd truly fucks up their main go-to-court story with several glaring inconsistencies this is going to be an acquittal.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
15. Well there's your answer right there
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 08:30 PM
Aug 2014

With three or four hands, maybe he was an alien mutant invader.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
6. SEVEN HOURS!
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 07:39 PM
Aug 2014
This report, though, shows that police were STILL LOOKING for the robbery suspects almost 7 HOURS after the shooting. Following the description given in the incident report, it reads at 6:54 P.M. “STILL SEE NO ONE MATCHING THAT DESCRIPTION.” Maybe they weren’t looking at the dead kid in the back of the SUV.

http://aattp.org/demonization-of-michael-brown-by-the-ferguson-police-department-already-caught-lying/










 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
16. "shows that police were STILL LOOKING for the robbery suspects"
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 08:31 PM
Aug 2014

Or, it shows that the person who wrote that entry had not been at the shooting scene.
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
9. It is constantly changing.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 07:42 PM
Aug 2014

Add to that the shooter cop leaving town, even though he didn't live in Ferguson and his identity wasn't then known. Is there even proof of these supoosed "death threats"? Looks like they know they're in deep doo-doo, and are struggling to concoct a believeable story. I doubt any of the versions told so far are the truth.

OTOH, there are at least three eye-witnesses of the shooting, whose stories agree, backed up by video. If I'm on a jury, I know which side is credible.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
17. "leaving town"
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 08:32 PM
Aug 2014

A neighbor said the family had not been at the home.

Is there information elsewhere that he had "left town"?
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
19. Yes, left town, according to a cop guarding house.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 08:54 PM
Aug 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025392128

Unclear what "left town" means. Might still be in greater St Louis metropolitan area, just not in the particular suburb community where he resided. Current whereabouts unknown, afaik.
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
18. indict.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 08:47 PM
Aug 2014

And there does appear to be an institutional problem in the FPD with harrassment, racism, violation of civil rights, excessive force, poor record keeping, falsifying records, and perjury. So yes, the entire force should be shut down.

tblue37

(65,408 posts)
20. Maybe we should be grateful for their stupidity. If they were less panicked and less stupid, the PD
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 09:02 PM
Aug 2014

might manage to concoct a less unbelievable cover story.

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