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a kid down the street deliberately broke a cats legs yesterday (Original Post) irisblue Aug 2014 OP
How's the kitteh? joeybee12 Aug 2014 #1
not the family cat, and the vet has fixed the injured cats leg. irisblue Aug 2014 #8
It does suck...glad to hear that kitteh is doing well... joeybee12 Aug 2014 #11
Hoe old is the kid? Prophet 451 Aug 2014 #2
I believe that's how Jeffrey Dahmer started./NT DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #4
You would be correct Prophet 451 Aug 2014 #7
I think they confirmed he did that dsc Aug 2014 #28
ya know, my dog is elderly irisblue Aug 2014 #18
he looks to be 6/7. irisblue Aug 2014 #10
Might still be chance to reach him then Prophet 451 Aug 2014 #12
may be a tall 4 year old elehhhhna Aug 2014 #40
no he is not a tall 4yr old..... irisblue Aug 2014 #42
then he's in trouble. he needs compassion and intervention elehhhhna Aug 2014 #44
Has anybody called the Police or Animal Control? avebury Aug 2014 #3
Mom 1, who knocked on my door to tell me this had he son with her. irisblue Aug 2014 #13
oddly, we're within a mile of Animal Controls' new office. irisblue Aug 2014 #20
Exactly shenmue Aug 2014 #31
more info please? elehhhhna Aug 2014 #5
cat is okay, seen by vet, splinted and is safe. irisblue Aug 2014 #17
that is HELLA creepy renate Aug 2014 #23
I don't know the family 'cept to wave hello irisblue Aug 2014 #24
Kid belongs in jail hifiguy Aug 2014 #6
Depending on his age... Prophet 451 Aug 2014 #9
kitty seen by vet, and is safe. irisblue Aug 2014 #14
Thank you, that's a relief n/t Prophet 451 Aug 2014 #15
If this has any additional access to the cat, avebury Aug 2014 #16
The kid needs to be re-homed. At 6-7 years old, they know right from wrong and Fla Dem Aug 2014 #19
You are correct very very correct Kalidurga Aug 2014 #27
you have given me an idea.... irisblue Aug 2014 #25
oh ffs keep the cat indoors. voila. elehhhhna Aug 2014 #36
And what about dogs? avebury Aug 2014 #38
lock the gate and honestly, keep the dogs in if necessary elehhhhna Aug 2014 #45
Not to be morbid but do you know how he did it? aikoaiko Aug 2014 #21
according to mom 1 & son, demon child kicked cat then broke board game on Mom1 human child. irisblue Aug 2014 #33
He has anger issues but it doesn't sound like he dissected it elehhhhna Aug 2014 #37
Child protective services might also be warranted if avebury Aug 2014 #39
Next to an accident this is probably the most fixable. aikoaiko Aug 2014 #41
Effin' kids PasadenaTrudy Aug 2014 #22
When my daughter was about 8 year old HockeyMom Aug 2014 #26
I think people who abuse defenceless animals should have done to them what they did to the Louisiana1976 Aug 2014 #29
Jesus, Mary and Joseph shenmue Aug 2014 #30
Please make sure this is reported to the proper authorities hamsterjill Aug 2014 #32
Even w/o knowing more, I'd say he is a sociopath/psychopath. Laffy Kat Aug 2014 #34
no fires, no other animals hurt that I've heard about.I really really hope this is a one off mistake irisblue Aug 2014 #43
Probably headed to the police academy. JEB Aug 2014 #35

irisblue

(32,982 posts)
8. not the family cat, and the vet has fixed the injured cats leg.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:32 PM
Aug 2014

first thing I asked when Mom1 knocked on my door, it was her cat and is doing ok.
This sucks

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
11. It does suck...glad to hear that kitteh is doing well...
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:36 PM
Aug 2014

That kid needs seriously help...he'll be doing that to people in a few years unless he gets help.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
2. Hoe old is the kid?
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:22 PM
Aug 2014

If he's very young (like, under six or so), he might just have not realised what he was doing. If he's much older than that, there needs to be an intervention because animal abuse is one of teh warning signs of psychopathy.

Also, someone needs to get the cat away from him and to a vet.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
7. You would be correct
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:31 PM
Aug 2014

According to Dahmer (although how much you trust that is up for debate), he began with killing animals as a child.

dsc

(52,163 posts)
28. I think they confirmed he did that
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 06:26 PM
Aug 2014

he had buried some of them and at least one killing was witnessed.

irisblue

(32,982 posts)
18. ya know, my dog is elderly
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:52 PM
Aug 2014

she has NEVER and will NEVER be outside without me being in the yard. I thought of all the serial killer stuff right away.

irisblue

(32,982 posts)
10. he looks to be 6/7.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:35 PM
Aug 2014

Mom1 of the injured cat lives next to him & his family. Mom2, who does day care for the most of the under 12 yr olds on the street is on her way to her elderly moms for the pm, so I would know more tomorrow.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
12. Might still be chance to reach him then
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:38 PM
Aug 2014

But his future development depends on getting him some treatment now. Much older and he'll be beyond reach.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
40. may be a tall 4 year old
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 07:39 PM
Aug 2014

it sounds like an epic tantrum and violent lashing out but du seems to think he's a serial killer.

irisblue

(32,982 posts)
42. no he is not a tall 4yr old.....
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:48 PM
Aug 2014

I know by sight the kids on this street and which school bus picks which group of kids, this boy is 6 or 7, he is not with the younger kids.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
44. then he's in trouble. he needs compassion and intervention
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 05:04 PM
Aug 2014

kids his age are just firming up a sense of conscience and separating fact and fantasy.

irisblue

(32,982 posts)
13. Mom 1, who knocked on my door to tell me this had he son with her.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:38 PM
Aug 2014

I told the kid on the bike next to his mom "there is something wrong in the head of a stronger who hurts a smaller. It is wrong and bad. " His mom, turned towards him and said..."see...I told you"

irisblue

(32,982 posts)
20. oddly, we're within a mile of Animal Controls' new office.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:55 PM
Aug 2014

and I will be stopping by tomorrow am...it is almost 6pm here.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
5. more info please?
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:26 PM
Aug 2014

age, family receptivity to discussion, and of course how is the cat and what specifically happened.

Sounds like a very disturbed kid...

irisblue

(32,982 posts)
17. cat is okay, seen by vet, splinted and is safe.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:49 PM
Aug 2014

injured kitty lives next door, Cat of Mom 1. Doing ok.
The cats' human and the neighborhood-lady (mom2)-who-watches-almost all- the kids-on- the- street after bus drop off till parents get home have already called Children's Services late today. I gave my name and # so if I need to talk to Children's&Family Services early next week they can reach me. Kid and I passed a few words about his teasing MOM2s' dog while the dog was in her enclosed fenced yard. Actually my words' were to the effect of "what the hell are you doing? Leave that dog alone, she is in her yard".




renate

(13,776 posts)
23. that is HELLA creepy
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 06:03 PM
Aug 2014

To be that sadistic and that angry, ever but especially at that age...

I hope he is fixable... it's a terrible thing to hope that his anger is from a difficult situation at home rather than from an innate sociopathy, but at least the difficult situation at home thing could be remedied (and you'll have done him a huge favor by reporting it). I'm so glad you and the other people have contacted CFS. Please keep us updated; I genuinely feel for you (and for the poor cat), as well as for him. Good luck

irisblue

(32,982 posts)
24. I don't know the family 'cept to wave hello
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 06:04 PM
Aug 2014

because this is a really quiet street(honest!) in a fair sized city, kids ride their bikes, a few shoot hoops 3 doors down in the set on the street hoop-master. As long as I could walk my dogs, I waved and said hey to everyone. This makes me so sad for the cat, the kid and his parents and worried for the feral colony Mrs Davis has at the opposite end from the kid.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
9. Depending on his age...
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:33 PM
Aug 2014

If he's still young, there's still a chance to reach him so a secure mental facility would be better than jail.

Hopefully, the kitty survived and can be helped by a vet.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
16. If this has any additional access to the cat,
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:49 PM
Aug 2014

the kindest thing to do would be for the owner to re-home it to a safer place.

I would not feel comfortable at all having a child like that in my neighborhood. I would be concerned for any pets in the area. You might want to consider alerting any neighbors who leave any pets outside that there could be a risk to those pets. I sure would want to know.

Fla Dem

(23,692 posts)
19. The kid needs to be re-homed. At 6-7 years old, they know right from wrong and
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:54 PM
Aug 2014

know when they are causing pain. The only reason he did this was because he #1 could being bigger than the cat, and #2 because he got some type of thrill from causing pain. Kid needs help.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
27. You are correct very very correct
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 06:23 PM
Aug 2014

I don't assume the parents are guilty. Someone who has credibility told me most people who are bullies have no reason that can be determined to be bullies. They aren't/weren't abused or neglected, the families at least look fairly normal, they live in good neighborhoods, etc. Yet, somehow they still end up being monsters. So, I would take the kid out for the sake of the rest of the family. They may or may not be a contributing factor in the kids behavior.

irisblue

(32,982 posts)
25. you have given me an idea....
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 06:13 PM
Aug 2014

stapling neon paper in plastic folders to the phone posts on this street, and the next several streets warning neighbors that someone has hurt an animal in the area, maybe under windshield wipers as well tomorrow is a good way to get some fresh air and exercise.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
38. And what about dogs?
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 07:36 PM
Aug 2014

A lot of people let their dogs stay out during the day if their yard is fenced in.

So because a sociopathic kid lives in the neighborhood and everyone should be held hostage to his behavior?

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
45. lock the gate and honestly, keep the dogs in if necessary
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 05:08 PM
Aug 2014

the child is 6 or 7 and the 'hood ladies are going to intervene. it's not as is the frikkin hells angels are terrorizing the town. eyes on the Bad Seed and some compassion might be called for. Let's not lynch a goddamned six year old for kicking a pet. The rhetoric here lately is so dramatic!

aikoaiko

(34,172 posts)
21. Not to be morbid but do you know how he did it?
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:58 PM
Aug 2014

Did he hit it with a bicycle or throw them off the roof? Or was it more torturous than that?

irisblue

(32,982 posts)
33. according to mom 1 & son, demon child kicked cat then broke board game on Mom1 human child.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 06:49 PM
Aug 2014

this is not pretty. Tomorrow isn't gonna be fun......to hurt smaller......not something I can understand


 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
37. He has anger issues but it doesn't sound like he dissected it
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 07:36 PM
Aug 2014

which is good.

may have learned it at home, may have a problem in his wiring/impulse control, maybe being abused himself - must be miserable, regardless.

Sorry, DU, but have we NO compassion for a fucked up SIX YEAR OLD? Wow.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
39. Child protective services might also be warranted if
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 07:38 PM
Aug 2014

the kid is already hurting neighborhood children. Anybody with children that might come in contact wit his kid should also be alerted.

aikoaiko

(34,172 posts)
41. Next to an accident this is probably the most fixable.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 07:50 PM
Aug 2014

Acting toward animals (or humans) when angry or frustrated can be modified, but it takes effort from the parents.

Empathy training and anger management could probably help this kid. Hopefully the parents take it seriously.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
26. When my daughter was about 8 year old
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 06:18 PM
Aug 2014

she saw a group of neighorbood boys try to hang a stray cat from a tree. She untied the cat and ran after them while they LAUGHED at HER. She came home and told me who they were. I called the Local Humane Society and reported their PARENTS. The ADULTS were cited for animal cruelty.

Louisiana1976

(3,962 posts)
29. I think people who abuse defenceless animals should have done to them what they did to the
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 06:28 PM
Aug 2014

animal they abused. Someone should break that little juvenile delinquent's legs and see how he likes it.

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
32. Please make sure this is reported to the proper authorities
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 06:31 PM
Aug 2014

All of the up-posts indicating that animal cruelty is a precursor to other, more violent behavior are correct.

Please do not depend on someone else to report this unless you have confirmed their report.

This is serious business. The child needs to know that he cannot do this again. If he's competent, he needs to be punished. If he needs mental health help, he needs that, too.

Please don't let this drop without action. Thank you, and I'm so glad the cat is safe.

Laffy Kat

(16,383 posts)
34. Even w/o knowing more, I'd say he is a sociopath/psychopath.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 07:01 PM
Aug 2014

Not sure how much you can do to help him. I've said this before, I truly believe you are born a psychopath. Any unexplained fires in the neighborhood?

On edit: I'd move.

irisblue

(32,982 posts)
43. no fires, no other animals hurt that I've heard about.I really really hope this is a one off mistake
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:55 PM
Aug 2014

and bad temper.....

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
35. Probably headed to the police academy.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 07:06 PM
Aug 2014

How old? What is his home life like? I'd bet he either has a mental illness or is abused himself.

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