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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsReport: Ferguson Cop ID'd As Unarmed Teen's Killer Left The Area Days Ago
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/report-ferguson-officer-darren-wilson-skipped-townUSA Today reported that no one answered the door Friday at Wilson's Crestwood, Mo. home. A police officer keeping watch over the home told the newspaper that Wilson had left town with his family days ago.
A neighbor told USA Today that she'd had no idea that Wilson was the cop who shot 18-year-old Michael Brown until Friday morning, when Crestwood police informed residents that Wilson was involved in the incident and their neighborhood would draw attention.
It's unclear exactly when Wilson left the area. The fatal shooting occurred Saturday.
So THAT'S why they waited so long to name the bastard!
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Still no picture of the guy.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)A friend of mine read the cop was black. Such bullshit!
Rex
(65,616 posts)This just gets worse and worse.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,371 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)edit: And I do not mean Mexico, MO. There is, in fact, such a place.
FormerOstrich
(2,702 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)I know someone who works for a convenience store chain based there.
edit: And, of course, there's Kabool.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Lebenon, Columbia, Versailles (pronounced ver-sales)
countryjake
(8,554 posts)Pronounced with a long "U" (Roo-shee)
And of course, Lima can be found fifty miles North. (with a long "I"
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)But Rolla was named for Raliegh, NC. And, of course there's NevAda.
countryjake
(8,554 posts)I had to look that Missouri town up on wiki. Never even heard of it! Auxvasse!
The town of Versailles that I was referring to is located in Northwestern Ohio, since I originally came from that area.
I didn't know that there was another one in Missouri.
I know we're way too far off topic, but I love trivia on place names like that. We could go on all night long.
I happen to think that our government has shuffled Darren Wilson away to Chicken, Alaska.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)so I can look them up later.
Wherever he is, I can't help but feel like a small slice of justice has been served if he is terrified in believing he has a target on his back. It doesn't go far, but it's something.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Not Ne-vah-duh. That's an easy way to spot someone from back East.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)It's Ne vay da. Formerly know as hog-eye and birthplace of Frank James. California, MO is a bit NE of there.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Callmecrazy
(3,065 posts)FormerOstrich
(2,702 posts)Tried to float the Jack's Fork in May. I couldn't believe how many people could be on a 3 mile stretch of a river (shudder)!
Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Where he will join Mark Furman and other racist cops.
Chemisse
(30,813 posts)As long as they can get him back to prosecute him for murder or manslaughter.
tblue37
(65,409 posts)dangerous thug who deserved to be shot.
Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)from a convenience store they released the cop's name. Even though at the time the cop murdered Brown he didn't know of the theft.
Peregrine Took
(7,415 posts)And, depending on how much things have cooled down (say months from now) he may get a suspension.
avebury
(10,952 posts)and the Grand Jury votes to indict him.
Malraiders
(444 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)the net. Especially if the FBI starts looking into it so can it really be scrubbed? From us - yes. From the FBI?
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)They heavily investigate fraud - I don't think most Americans are aware of their detective duties. They have a laser sharp focus on electronic communications since that is the source for so many of it these days.
damnedifIknow
(3,183 posts)Executes someone then heads for the hills.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)he's in bundyland being 'protected' by citizen militias.
Warpy
(111,277 posts)Getting his family out of the area was probably a good move, though.
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)is not relevant.
JaydenD
(294 posts)Not sure if it's been posted here already. It's a pay for info site just on the offchance someone here already subscribes to it this is the link: I have no idea of the integrity of this link - I was curious to hear that there is very little on the internet about Wilson and suspicions are his presence has been scrubbed.
http://www.publicrecords.com/people-search-/darren-wilson
VanGoghRocks
(621 posts)free to weigh in on it if you are so moved
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025390934
spin
(17,493 posts)as I don't form my views on news reports but wait for all the evidence to come out. Currently I suspect he murdered Michael Brown based on what I do know and believe he should face a jury.
However I also believe that both Wilson and his family were facing possible danger as there had been threats on his life in the social media. Therefore I feel he made a wise decision to leave his home with his family and skip town until all the furor dies down. If I had been in his position, I would have done the same.
Threats delay release of cop's name in fatal Mo. shooting
Yamiche Alcindor, Brandie Piper and John Bacon, USA TODAY 11 a.m. EDT August 13, 2014
FERGUSON, Mo. Authorities on Tuesday delayed revealing the identity of the police officer who fatally shot an unarmed teen three days ago, citing threats against the officer on social media.
"If we come out and say, 'it was this officer,' then he immediately becomes a target," Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson said. "We're taking the threats seriously."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/12/st-louis-teen-shooter-name/13953997/
hamsterjill
(15,222 posts)It is certainly no surprise that Wilson and his family are no longer in Ferguson. They wouldn't be safe and having the potential of someone causing harm to him or his family would only escalate this already volatile situation.
Like you, I am waiting for the facts, which in my mind will be the report of the full investigation. I don't like it that anyone is tried and convicted in the media. That was a very unpopular opinion for me on another thread earlier today, so I was glad to see your post.
spin
(17,493 posts)it is far superior to trial by the media.
If a trial occurs, and at this time in my opinion it should, the prosecution and the defense will be able to present evidence to the jury. The jury will then render a decision. No matter what verdict the jury decides on, there will be those who disagree with it.
logosoco
(3,208 posts)his home was in Crestwood, a city a couple of towns south of Ferguson (sorry,bad with estimating miles...maybe 15-20 minute drive time). This city is about 90% white.
I assume he will have to go back to Ferguson eventually. I am guessing there are going to be more than one court case over this event.
I agree, more violence is not going to help the situation. Hurting his family is not going to help the family of the victim.
I would like to see the chief of police resign. The force also needs to reflect the community population.
His being there would not help bring justice, regardless. It would only lead to the potential for more police violence, quite frankly.
spin
(17,493 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)First of all, the shooter cop wasn't named until today... who exactly were the supposed threats directed at? Secondly, he didn't live in Ferguson, he lived in Crestwood. Thirdly, did the chief actually produce those threats, or simply make the claim they existed?
IMO, the more likely scenerio is the shooter cop was told to leave town and not ID'd so he would be unavailable to investigators and reporters to answer questions, and allow the FPD to buy time to concoct a cover story. By all appearances, there's some serious obstruction of justice going on in Ferguson, involving the PD, DA, and St Louis Co PD. Hopefully, AG Holder opens a thorough investigation, but I'm not holding my breath.
spin
(17,493 posts)The chief's story keeps changing hour by hour and that makes me suspicious.
Still if I watched that many demonstrators gathering to protest my actions, I would leave my home with my family for a while. Better safe than sorry. I'm sure my neighbors would be glad to see me out of the neighborhood.
The police department in his home town might have suggested that he leave so they wouldn't have to assign officers to control demonstrators when they arrived and to protect his home and family.
His presence in the area might lead to further violence which is the last thing needed at this time.
PSPS
(13,603 posts)PAProgressive28
(270 posts)he is eventually brought to justice. We don't need to answer a murder with a murder.
countryjake
(8,554 posts)easychoice
(1,043 posts)Gotta protect your own...Scumbags
Call a grand jury...Fire up the perjury traps,lol.
Catherine Vincent
(34,490 posts)But now that he is out of town, when he returns it will be breaking news which is why he should have stayed put.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)Arrowood
(29 posts)countryjake
(8,554 posts)Arrowood
(29 posts)Seems reasonable...
countryjake
(8,554 posts)People have consistently asked for an incident report, to learn how the man who used his gun to kill a kid in the
street described what occurred at noon on Saturday, August 9th.
Simple, standard procedure in a police shooting, they always file an official report. Why the need to withhold both that incident report and also hide the person who filed it?
Whatever makes you think that it's reasonable to provide such cover for a government employee who appears to be a suspect in a murder investigation?
Arrowood
(29 posts)... but if you can't imagine any circumstances under which there might be a threat to the Officer or his family then that is certainly your choice.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Arrowood
(29 posts)Wouldn't you?
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)ID laws and such to prevent a non-existent event from happening.
The officer is a public servant working for a public agency. In the course of his work, his actions should be made available for examination in the public's interest.... especially when there is a possibility of a crime having been committed.
The police chief provided not one shred of evidence that there were credible threats against the officer. There is no reason for the officer's name and record to have been hidden.
There is no record of a "revenge hit" occuring on an officer involved in a shooting in the US, for as long as I can remember. Its a non-existant problem, and using it as justification to avoid sunshine laws is a violation of those laws.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)bananas
(27,509 posts)There are a number of countries which won't extradite him, because the US has the death penalty for murder, which most civilized countries have abolished as barbaric, crude, and inhuman.
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Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)JI7
(89,252 posts)Takket
(21,578 posts)aren't people supposed to "not leave town" when they are under investigation for murder?????????????? instead the cops delay the media to make sure this guy gets away???? as far as I'm concerned that makes them accessories to the murder!
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)most individuals would have been charged and required to post bail and surrender their passports so they don't flee the jurisdiction and force the D.A. to have to extradite them. Most suspects who are considered suspects but where not enough evidence has yet been gathered to charge them are firmly and definitely told by the police that they need to stay in town and not fly the coop.
kylie5432
(34 posts)Which makes him less than credible. However, I do believe it was murder as well.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)Last edited Fri Aug 15, 2014, 07:40 PM - Edit history (1)
Whether or not he participated in the robbery or brown acted in that store on his own in grabbing cigars (and I haven't seen proof either way), the fact he's Brown's friend affects his credibility as regards witness bias. However, there are other percipient witnesses with no connection to Brown who corroborate the story in detail.
Moreover, you're assuming a robbery, shoplifting or whatever occurred. No one has committed a robbery until a jury has DECIDED robbery has occurred following trial. We don't have trial by media in this country and we can't be sure what happened in that convenience store. Maybe Brown paid for the cigars and had an argument over something else, or even the store owner owed him the cigars, no matter how sure we are from looking at a few seconds of silent video. If the DA wants to raise the issue of the witness's credibility by introducing evidence of priors to impeach his trial testimony, they will have to charge and try him first, something DA's have been known to do. Short of that and if the convenience store owner won't testify, the video will likely be excluded at trial otherwise.
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kylie5432
(34 posts)He most likely is in protective custody as is his family. While the shooting is not justified, Brown was no saint as released video tape shows.
The black community needs to deal with the crime in its midst. It allows its youth to dress and act like thugs.
I believe it is the right move to have the Highway Patrol take over from the regular police and that affirmative action should be instituted to make the police force more diverse but personal responsibility is also a must. Who robs a store and intimidates the clerk the day before he is supposed to start college?
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)NuclearDem
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alp227
(32,034 posts)Believe it or not, some opinions are CRAP! I know, right? Shocking!
JEB
(4,748 posts)Last I checked it was an unarmed black kid shot in the back. The police could use a bit of personal responsibility.
countryjake
(8,554 posts)smokey nj
(43,853 posts)3 didn't provide an explanation. The fourth didn't find anything offensive. Go figure.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)lovely
countryjake
(8,554 posts)Thanks for alerting on it, smokey. At least that way we'll get a review from the Administrators on the post and Skinner will become aware that such blatant slurs have been made about our "black community" during this discussion of the Michael Brown murder.
smokey nj
(43,853 posts)Seemed pretty racist to me - 4 people disagreed.
countryjake
(8,554 posts)I have full confidence that he'll be able to handle things properly. There's no mistaking the substance of the statement that was made.
Such ugliness hurts and presents a nasty reflection of DU as a whole. That sort of bigotry is at the root of why that poor kid was shot dead in the street last Saturday.
smokey nj
(43,853 posts)In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)smokey nj
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handmade34
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OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)npk
(3,660 posts)Let me know when the "white community" does something about the "white thugs" that pointed assault riffles at government agents in Nevada and weren't even remotely approached by police.
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(3,660 posts)I get sick of reading it. I'm sorry that others have to read that shit.
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(3,065 posts)npk
(3,660 posts)But I am not surprised some DU members let that post stay.
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npk
(3,660 posts)But it's not the first time, probably wont be the last. Normally I just ignore those kinds of posts, but it seems that a lot of this crap is getting posted.
Callmecrazy
(3,065 posts)I'm sorry. I don't know how to post jury result from my inbox.
If someone can tell me how, I'll edit the post.
npk
(3,660 posts)Not sure as I have never posted jury results myself.
Callmecrazy
(3,065 posts)No joy.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Unlike the one that let the other post stay.
countryjake
(8,554 posts)To paraphrase a comment made by Jelani Cobb, a journalist from the New Yorker, who's been on the scene in Ferguson,
Nail, meet hammer.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Thanks for taking the risk for a crappy jury to hide your post. You rock.
Perfect response to that. And what the hell does it matter what he was wearing anyway?
d_r
(6,907 posts)I've been wondering about this term "thug" for a while. So I wanted to ask, have you ever called a white person a "thug?"
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)They're not shot dead by a cop who knew nothing about the crime.
Cut the BS dissonance routine.
And, yes, the cop out of town was a smart public safety measure. Still, the rest of your post is pure crap.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)I and many others have called BS on the robbery story.
Where'd you hear that? O'Reilly? Hannity?
countryjake
(8,554 posts)Why do you keep saying he DID rob a store? You know nothing of the kind.
Funny how the "law and order" types are the first to cast away the law.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)He lifted (allegedly) a pack of cheap cigars FFS!!
Good gawd, what an overblown, ignorant post.
Yeah, and enjoy your damn stay.
CakeGrrl
(10,611 posts)You don't shoot an unarmed individual with hands up.
END OF STORY.
bobduca
(1,763 posts)Last edited Sat Aug 16, 2014, 02:07 AM - Edit history (1)
the best of New DU!
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)A MTV show - Teen Mom. I had never heard of it. So I googled it. The wiki was pretty interesting.
If you get a chance - you should go there because it is kind of a sad statement about the white community.
It's a spin off of 16 and pregnant. Now that wiki is really interesting.
Just saying - hold the mirror up in your own face before you turn the spotlight on me.
countryjake
(8,554 posts)Excellent, simply excellent!
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Whatever.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)The very dull, semi-literate racist rantings have become quite boring.
JEB
(4,748 posts)But the cop wants all his due process.
JEB
(4,748 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)I think her name is Tiffany. She is afraid for her safety.
Who is protecting her?
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Lint Head
(15,064 posts)hiding a criminal, aiding and abetting a potential murderer.
Rex
(65,616 posts)No wonder they were starting riots against the populace. Needed them to keep distracted while he fled. Why would they sneak an innocent man out of town?
Bodhi BloodWave
(2,346 posts)then there had been threats against him and his family?
Somebodies guilt or innocence is irrelevant if another person has decided the person is guilty and deserves some retribution by their hand
If i had gotten threats against myself or my family that was credible i would likely have laid low somewhere as well, seems like a fairly common sense thing to me.
I am awaiting more information before making a personal judgement, but the currently available information has me leaning toward him being guilty of murder