Has SNOWDEN & GREENWALD Fizzled Out?

[CJCRANE]

It looks like they've both fizzled out of interesting things to say.

Snowden said recently that there might be some info in his cache that could embarrasses a major politician but he didn't seem too sure or specific about it.

Greenwald's promised gamechanger also didn't materialize.

Are they done or are there any surprises left in their stash of data?

(It reminds me of Wikileaks which also fizzled out after an interesting start).

[bluestateguy]

1. No time to concern myself with those narcissistic self-promoters

I'm focused on Ferguson, Missouri.

[Cali_Democrat]

2. I thought Greenwald is still about to release his grand finale fireworks show...

It's supposedly going to bring the US government to its knees.

I'm not sure exactly when it's supposed to happen though.

We've been told it's supposed to happen soon....

[TwilightGardener]

3. Snowden got three more years of Russian hospitality, he's going to have to

come up with SOMETHING in exchange. That's a big room-and-board bill to pay.

[sabrina 1]

4. I assume you depend on the Corporate Media for your information.

Neither the Massive Illegal Surveillance of the American people by their own government agencies, as reported by Greenwald re Whistle Blower, Snowden, nor the War Crimes as revealed by Wikileaks re Chelsea Manning, have gone anywhere, except OFF the Corporate Media. Which is to be expected.

Not only that, but you appear to have missed Wikileaks' continued exposure of corruption in governments over the past number or years.

Some advice, never, EVER make any important judgements about serious issues based on the US Corporate Media. As you just did.

[randome]

5. Maybe if we all wish really, really hard...

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[grasswire]

10. Is that your daughter?

Or are you using someone else's child here?

[randome]

16. Not sure what your comment is intended to convey.

It's a random Google image.
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[Tierra_y_Libertad]

6. Well, the NSA still seems to be worried about it.

As does the government.

[conservaphobe]

7. It was an interesting story at first.

Now the media only allows them to self-aggrandize on every other slow news day.

[zappaman]

8. No, Greenwald will be revealing super ginourmous big game-changing info any day now!

[grasswire]

9. August is the place where news stories go to die.

I wouldn't release anything in August.

[whatchamacallit]

11. So much derangement...

If they're in the news - derangement, if they're not in the news - derangement.

[riderinthestorm]

13. I know right? Damned if you do damned if you don't. .. nt

[WillyT]

12. He Was Just Interviewed By James Bamford For Wired Magazine:

DULink: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025379437

[KoKo]

18. Yes...and it was excellent with much more revelations about Snowden's background

a few other interesting tidbits about what's been revealed and what might be still lurking in the future.

I wish they hadn't done it in a PDF or whatever format that came up with ginormous photos of Snowden making it suck up bandwidth and distracting, though.

But...fantastic read, I thought.

[Pholus]

14. Yes, like all scandals the MIC just needed to "weather the news cycle."

And they did so in the end it just becomes something "we all know" and the abuses are now grandfathered and institutionalized.

So it's done. "We the People" got the "Look at the rabbits, Lennie" treatment yet again and nothing changed.

In the end, the "gamechanger" you seem to have missed was the story that dragnet surveillance of six exceptional US citizens under no more pretext than they were "Muslim" was completely acceptable. Screw probable cause. In case you're unusually slow let me explain in small words why that SHOULD bother you. Many of your idiotic Republican friends and associates believe "Terrorists," "Muslims," "Liberals" and "Democrats" are interchangable words when it comes to being threats to our country. And they think threats should be eliminated.

To all the "but he had boxes in the garage and a stripper girlfriend" folks I extend a hearty thanks for helping the spooks (Republican appointees as far as the eye can see) win. Fifteen minutes and a couple executive orders after the next Repuke takes the Oval Office you'll realize why this mattered.

[KoKo]

20. In the "Wired" interview with Snowden he reveals

That the Muslims who were being targeted had relatives and friends in the ME/Pakistan/West Bank and that information we shared with Israel would allow those friends and relatives to be specifically targeted if the occasion occurred. That also means that anyone of us who has a relative or friend who gets involved with anything the NSA spying machine/CIA/FBI finds objectionable (for whatever "even mistaken reason&quot can be open to a targeted take out without any charges brought or any oversight to see if the charges or the identity of the person can be verified independently.

That's pretty strong stuff.

[LiberalLovinLug]

15. He and Greenwald don't need to do anything more

You are conditioned by the MSM to expect a new story or angle in order to respect the relevancy of the story. They don't talk about it...its not news. How often do you hear about Chelsea Manning now? Yet a new Kardashian story, whether good or bad, pops up every other day. Don't you get that its a purposeful "fizzied out"?

Even if Snowden never does anything else that forces the MSM to pay attention, he single-handedly forced a public conversation on the extent of government surveillance on its own people in a free democracy. He has dammed himself to be a fugitive from his own country or an eventual political prisoner for this. What else more should he sacrifice? If there are more revelations, great. If not, I'm not fooled that Kim's new shockingly revealing outfit is a more important news story than one months old that actually affected and shook up the establishment.

[randome]

17. "Single handedly"? I guess if you believe that anyone can steal stuff and run.

But no super-heroics are needed for that.
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[LiberalLovinLug]

21. Uh...yes, he did it on his own volition.

Just like Chelsea Manning, and Daniel Ellsberg, that is the definition of "single handedly"


And who said anything about "super-heroics"? Snowden himself in interviews says he doesn't regard himself in that way, so why are you catapulting that idea? You said it, not me. LOL.

I'm sure there are some that regard Malcom X a "hero"....and some that don't. And some think Clive Bundy is a "hero" and others don't.
WTH does that have to do with the overall story and its repercussions?

[randome]

22. 'Single-handedly' implies he did something extraordinarily difficult.

I can say I single-handedly mowed my lawn today but that doesn't mean much. Nor am I impressed with someone who steals a shitload of documents, hands them off to various corporate media organizations, then wonders aloud what might have been in those documents.

And Snowden keeps projecting that self-effacing personality in interviews because he wants to be well-liked and he wants to be welcomed back with open arms. I don't see that happening.
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[KoKo]

19. Well Said!

[LittleBlue]

23. +2

You nailed it

[MineralMan]

24. Who?

Sounds sorta familiar...