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morningfog

(18,115 posts)
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 02:07 PM Aug 2014

The alleged robbery is as insignificant as the alleged jaywalking

Regardless of whether Wilson knew about the alleged robbery or whether he was initiated his interaction with Brown because of alleged jaywalking, what happen after that is all that matters.

The initial interaction, or stop, was likely legal whether it was to investigate a robbery or to enforce a jaywalking violation. The release of the robbery information today was coordinated solely to distract from the release of Wilson's name, and has worked.

All that matters is why Wilson shot Brown.

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The alleged robbery is as insignificant as the alleged jaywalking (Original Post) morningfog Aug 2014 OP
I agree, the only thing that matters is why Brown was shot ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #1
Exactly. Both are really unrelated to a cop shooting MineralMan Aug 2014 #2
Actually that isn't correct JJChambers Aug 2014 #3
I'm not sure that theft qualifies as use of force, really. MineralMan Aug 2014 #4
Probably wouldn't ever get to that point. JJChambers Aug 2014 #7
I think it would be a misdemeanor plea, frankly. MineralMan Aug 2014 #8
+1 blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #5
Other than destroying the credibility pintobean Aug 2014 #6
It hasn't done that yet. morningfog Aug 2014 #9
You are correct pintobean Aug 2014 #10
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
1. I agree, the only thing that matters is why Brown was shot ...
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 02:12 PM
Aug 2014

But I still don't get the importance of releasing Wilson's name to the public ... other than to give the media 18 different story board angles ... to distract from why Brown was shot.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
2. Exactly. Both are really unrelated to a cop shooting
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 02:19 PM
Aug 2014

a person. The penalty for jaywalking is a fine. The penalty for stealing some cigars is a fine or 30 days in the county jail, max. Nobody should be dead for doing those things.

 

JJChambers

(1,115 posts)
3. Actually that isn't correct
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 02:25 PM
Aug 2014

In Missouri, 2nd degree robbery (using force in the commission of a theft but without using a weapon) is a Class B Felony, punishable by 5 - 15 years in prison.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
4. I'm not sure that theft qualifies as use of force, really.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 02:32 PM
Aug 2014

If I were on the jury, I couldn't vote for a guilty verdict as a felony for what I saw. Any competent prosecutor would plead that down to a misdemeanor theft of property. It wasn't felonious, as far as I can see. The video would be shown in evidence, and a juror like me would be likely stop a felony guilty verdict.

 

JJChambers

(1,115 posts)
7. Probably wouldn't ever get to that point.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 02:41 PM
Aug 2014

Juries are a gamble. He might get lucky with a jury of folks like you, or unlucky with ones like me. He would most likely take a 5 year plea and get 2 years prison with 3 additional years suspended. But he would be a felon.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
8. I think it would be a misdemeanor plea, frankly.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 02:45 PM
Aug 2014

Of course, that would depend on who the public defender turned out to be and his or her recommendation. At least here in Minnesota, I'm not seeing any prosecutions of felonies with as little force involved as this. The Prosecutors aren't even interested in dealing with them, really. St. Louis Co., MO, though, might be different. I don't know.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
6. Other than destroying the credibility
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 02:37 PM
Aug 2014

of the main witness, who is the person who told the jaywalking story.

Luckily, there are other witnesses.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
9. It hasn't done that yet.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 02:46 PM
Aug 2014

I've not seen evidence that Wilson stopped to investigate an alleged robbery yet. Only that one had occurred. Wilson's interaction may have been solely with respect to jaywalking.

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