The cop that responded to the robbery stayed on scene for 7 hours

[morningfog]

Last edited Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:34 PM - Edit history (1)

The police reports on the robbery are interesting, as they always are. The responding officer arrived on scene at 11:54, but did not depart until 18:54 (6:54pm), the same time which the event was "closed."

In that time, both Brown and Johnson are identified by name, complete with their driver's permit or ID numbers and addresses.

In other words, it seems that the responding cop stayed on scene until it was relayed to him that the "suspect" had been killed, including his identifying information.

The responding officer's report says that the dispatch was of "a D/M in a white t-shirt that was walking northbound on W Florissant." That dispatch likely came from the call operator who took the 911 call. Once inside, the suspect was identified as wearing yellow socks, and a red Cardinals hat and khaki longer shorts. He gave out that information on the radio.

That being so, today is the first time that the cigar robbery has been mentioned in public. All accounts up until today were that the stop of Brown began because the cop told them to get on the sidewalk.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2014/images/08/15/ferguson-police-report.pdf

EDIT to update dumbass math.

[MohRokTah]

1. That's weird.

Sounds like they have an inconsistency in their report. Cops generally would never stay on a scene of a robbery for hours.

[morningfog]

2. Not for a relatively simple robbery.

I can't find exactly when the shooting was. I've seen it was a little after noon but also as late as 2. Anyone have the shooting time?

[HooptieWagon]

4. Its a bit surprising they showed up at all. nt

[uponit7771]

3. Isn't it the FPD that claimed the stop was because of jaywalking? If so, the FPD is making things...

...worse

[2pooped2pop]

5. They killed the kid for not bowing to them

when told to walk on the sidewalk, then came across the video of a possible shoplifting/petty theft, and that worked for them.

I just wonder if they doctored the time or anything? Like maybe it was a petty theft that had occurred some 6 hours earlier and no one was actually looking to solve it. By luck, the owner of the convenience store or the cop that responded to that petty theft, recognized the guy and put two separate occurrences together to form a much better story for the police.

[morningfog]

6. This is all the more interesting now that we know Wilson didn't confront Brown as a suspect.

What a shit show in Ferguson.

[FormerOstrich]

7. Hello morningfog

Yes, I questioned the report as well,

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025392387

It is hard to express all that seems wrong with the report and timing.

[whistler162]

8. New math? Usually 11:54 to 6:54 is 7 hours.

you know big hand is just before 12 and then moves to just before 7!

[morningfog]

9. Well goddamned, you're right.

I never get it right when military time is involved. Even when I change it, apparently.

[winter is coming]

10. That's gotta be a typo, or a falsification.

No way would a cop stay at the scene of a minor crime for 7 hours. Kind of odd that both times are :54, too. This smells.

[morningfog]

11. On a closer read, if reading the event log correctly, the responding cop left just a little after 12

and then returned to fill out the report after going to look at Brown's body and talking to Johnson. His notes say he viewed the body and reviewed the video to confirm it was him.

[winter is coming]

12. If that's the case, why didn't the police mention the convenience store until today?

For that matter, the report indicates that nearly $50 worth of cigars were taken. That's too many to palm or stuff in a pocket. Where were they on the security video?

[winter is coming]

13. Actually, it looks like he reviewed the video on *Monday*.

Why would it have taken the police that long to link Brown to the convenience store if Brown had had cigars in his hand, which is the latest story? And the report claims the suspect pushed the clerk into a display rack, but if you look at the stills, it doesn't look like that actually happened.

[alcibiades_mystery]

14. The page in the report that makes no sense to me is Wilson's sick call

Incident Report 12390, or page 14 of the PDF. Of course, it's possible that i just don't know how to read these reports, but here's what I see.

1) He receives a call from dispatch that came in from 911: an infant is coughing and can't breath. That's on St Cyr just east of Lewis and Clark Blvd. He arrives on scene at 11:48. He leaves the scene (or closes out the case) at 12:00.

2) He marks the address down as "Glenark." Obviously, that's not correct if we assume the address reflects the location of the call. Glenark is a small street that runs between Daman Court and Bahamas Court. It is inside a subdivision, and a very roundabout ways from the St. Cyr Tower Apartments, where the call is. To get from one to the other is an odd trip indeed (see Figure 1 below). In any case, it would be impossible to leave St. Cyr at 12:00 as noted in the log and arrive at the scene of the killing at 12:02, when Brown was killed. The two locations are at least 7 minutes apart by car, probably more than that in practice.

HOWEVER

If Wilson was at Glenark as the address in the report states when he entered the information, then not only would it be possible to get to Canfield and Coppercreek in 2 minutes, but that's exactly the way you would go if you were trying to come out on to West Florrisant. (see image 2, below). I think Wilson was on Glenark and came out westbound on Canfield when he encountered Brown and Johnson.

But why the two addresses? Why note the sick call with a specific address on St. Cyr, but mark your location down as Glenark? Why was he on Glenark anyway? If he was on Glenark at 12:00, he would have had to leave St. Cyr by 11:53. He did a sick call in 5 minutes? I can't fit it together. I'm interested in what his story will be, because this document certainly doesn't make sense of it. One thing is certain. There is no way he left a sick call on St. Cyr at 12:00 and met up with Brown and Johnson on Canfield at 12:02 or even 12:04. It can't be done, as I see it.


Figure 1: Route


Figure 2: Glenark relative to Canfield

[davidpdx]

15. It sure doesn't make sense

While it appears the person running the store was pushed he was still standing, nothing has been said about anything taken other than the stupid cigars. They didn't trash the place. It seems like if the police were going to get involved they would have taken an hour or so to get a report and move on. I'm sure there were other situations that they were needed for.