Police say these are images of the robbery.

[Kurska]

https://twitter.com/mashable/status/500286058664579072

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Personally, I have no idea who that is. Even if it is him, pushing a clerk doesn't justify killing him, but it is crazy easy for cops to walk when charged with anything. If it is real and accurate and they show that picture in court, the cop will probably get off shitty as that may be.

(FYI for the host, I haven't seen any thread directly mention the images in thread line. If these have been posted elsewhere sorry).

[MohRokTah]

1. I wonder why they didn't release the full video.

It may be related to why they didn't name the victim as a suspect in a robbery on day one.

[Kurska]

3. Do you know if these cameras do sound?

As for why no video, I don't know the first thing about these cameras. Maybe the frame rate is so low it is basically like a series of pictures?

[MohRokTah]

4. Most of the time not.

But they've been adding capabilites to security cams so maybe.

[Kurska]

5. Why do I doubt that this camera is top of the line in terms of quality?

Well, least the images are in color.

[MohRokTah]

7. Usually they are B&W

Saves space for recording storage.

They need to release the full video.

[Kurska]

16. Heard it is coming soon.

Today soon, no idea on the hour.

[conservaphobe]

2. His friend confirmed to the FBI that it was him.

But the police didn't know he was the suspect until AFTER he was murdered.

Should change nothing.

[Enrique]

8. the reason it might change things

is that it makes it plausible that Brown might have been going for the gun.

Before this, there was nothing in Brown's history that suggested he might do such a thing, other than a prejudiced image of black people.

[conservaphobe]

13. Still doesn't excuse shooting someone in the back. nt

[SaltyBro]

6. From these images it looks like the clerk

initiates the contact between the two.

[Kurska]

9. I think there are two ways to view it.

Either the clerk grabbed his hand and pulled it inward to stop him leaving.

Or the clerk approached the guy, got grabbed by the shirt and was raising his hands defensively toward himself.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

10. That's what I was thinking. And, if Big Mike wasn't guilty of whatever the clerk was

confronting him for, Mike's reaction would not be unreasonable, especially if Mike did nothing wrong and the clerk was trying to keep him in the store.

[SaltyBro]

11. Big Mike would be perfectly justified in putting hands on him

if the clerk wrongly accused him of stealing the cigars.

[Kurska]

12. If the clerk touched him first.

If the clerk was just accusing him it doesn't justify grabbing the guy.

And it really isn't clear from the image who grabbed who first.

[Enrique]

14. the person who said we need to hear from the clerk is right

the pictures make it look like Brown is the aggressor, but where's the rest of the video?

The police report has a witness account saying that the clerk was blocking him from leaving, after having called 911.

[Kurska]

15. I heard on the grapevine the rest of the video should be coming along shortly.

On edit: I think it was a different store in the same chain? This whole situation is confusing.

Highly doubt the clerk is talking to anyone about this. Remember, his store got torched like on day 1.

No idea if he owned it or if he just worked there. Was he even a clerk or a manager? Either way, I doubt he is giving any statement to anyone but cops.

[tea and oranges]

17. Can we stop parsing this shit to the infinite degree?

Can we simply recognize that stealing cigars, if true, does not in any way legitimate a street over-shooting of a young man?