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avebury

(10,952 posts)
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 09:52 AM Aug 2014

In other words - Fergusson Police Chief is playing

the blame the victim card.

I have a feeling that he has just really pissed off the people of Fergusson.

Since Michael Brown was black then of course he has to have been the strong arm robber.

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In other words - Fergusson Police Chief is playing (Original Post) avebury Aug 2014 OP
Yes. This just may have burned up whatever good will has been created. AngryOldDem Aug 2014 #1
Exactly. Even if this was true, it is no excuse for shooting him. nt Live and Learn Aug 2014 #2
An unrelated incident Depaysement Aug 2014 #3
The police chief alleged that it was several boxes of cigars. avebury Aug 2014 #4
How many 18 year olds would steal cigars? Live and Learn Aug 2014 #6
kids turn them into blunts. Mosby Aug 2014 #12
Exactly Robbins Aug 2014 #8
Your view dovetails with what is missing from the police report Depaysement Aug 2014 #9
That is a huge hole in their story. avebury Aug 2014 #11
Of course they are Robbins Aug 2014 #13
I called CNN. avebury Aug 2014 #14
Damn right it's important! AngryOldDem Aug 2014 #16
Looks like they just doubled down on a losing bet. Rex Aug 2014 #5
They have never learned that when you find yourself avebury Aug 2014 #7
They've never been there before! Always had an easy way out, but now they are FUBARd. Rex Aug 2014 #10
Good lord, it's not hard to ascertain that Brown is indeed the person Schema Thing Aug 2014 #15
And he is, indeed, dead. That fact is what is the issue. WinkyDink Aug 2014 #17
Let's say that he is. AngryOldDem Aug 2014 #18
No, of course not. Schema Thing Aug 2014 #19
Of course it should be part of the record. AngryOldDem Aug 2014 #20
Sorry. This bullshit is just not believable. Here's why... L0oniX Aug 2014 #21
Sure took them a long time to find that card, too. n/t winter is coming Aug 2014 #22

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
1. Yes. This just may have burned up whatever good will has been created.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 09:55 AM
Aug 2014

Seems to me the fact of the armed robbery would have been brought up long before now if it had any credibility.

But that still does not excuse the use of deadly force on this kid.

Depaysement

(1,835 posts)
3. An unrelated incident
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:17 AM
Aug 2014

He allegedly stole a box of cigars. Probably larceny not robbery. It's not even clear from the report that he walked out of the store with the cigars.

The Oligarchs steal billions and walk the planet free and easy. Michael Brown is dead for a box of cigars. Is that the justification? Come on, now.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
4. The police chief alleged that it was several boxes of cigars.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:21 AM
Aug 2014

The time between the alleged strong arm robbery and the shooting was pretty short. If Brown took several boxes of cigars, what happened to them? There was no evidence at the site of the shooting of any boxes of cigars. If Brown has stolen boxes of cigars, the presence on scene of said cigar boxes would have bolstered the police chief's story. But there are not any cigar boxes.

As story invention occurs, this one is pretty weak.

Mosby

(16,319 posts)
12. kids turn them into blunts.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:39 AM
Aug 2014

Not saying he had them though. Just making a general stmt about young people and cigars.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
8. Exactly
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:30 AM
Aug 2014

Why are those boxes of cigars? If they were found they would have been mentioned.

This screams of fergusion PD trying to cover for one of their own.

Depaysement

(1,835 posts)
9. Your view dovetails with what is missing from the police report
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:31 AM
Aug 2014

If he actually left the store with the cigars, that should be in the report and that would seem to be a pretty important fact.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
11. That is a huge hole in their story.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:36 AM
Aug 2014

CNN is really starting to piss me off. The missing cigar boxes is so obvious that it seems like they are trying to help the police now.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
13. Of course they are
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:39 AM
Aug 2014

CNN and Fox will go with everyone overreacted Police officer was justified In actions.

Some will accept that.And others will call BS.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
14. I called CNN.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:43 AM
Aug 2014

I asked them why no one is asking about the missing cigar boxes and was told they did not know if they had researched that angle. I pointed that it was a pretty important fact and a red herring put out by the Ferguson police department.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
16. Damn right it's important!
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:18 AM
Aug 2014

This info about the robbery should have come out on the DAY OF THE SHOOTING.

Nothing in the video of the body in the street (and I've seen it -- since then the body has been fuzzed out) indicated Brown had anything on him; the police did not mention the store robbery that had just occurred that could have led the cop to stop Brown and his friend, the cops never indicated he had anything on him, and every witness has said Brown was unarmed and was backing away from the officer. If the officer knew Brown was a suspect in this robbery, why didn't he have a backup with him?

Nothing has been said about Brown's companion, either. So where is the box of Swisher Sweets?

All this bullshit is just distraction from the main issue and hard questions, which is just what the Ferguson PD wants. ANYTHING to deflect this story away from their officer's actions. And so far they're succeeding.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
5. Looks like they just doubled down on a losing bet.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:22 AM
Aug 2014

Ferguson PD must have some really stupid racists running the place. KEEP DIGGING YOU STUPID FUCKWADS! It will just make it that much more pleasurable watching you ALL lose your jobs!

Racist card played...keep digging morons!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
10. They've never been there before! Always had an easy way out, but now they are FUBARd.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:35 AM
Aug 2014

Yeah no doubt they will keep digging, racists are some of the dumbest people I've ever met.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
18. Let's say that he is.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:21 AM
Aug 2014

Does that alone justify what happened later?

Ferguson PD is certainly doing a good job misdirecting this tragedy for its own ends.

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)
19. No, of course not.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:28 AM
Aug 2014

But seriously, does anyone think it should not be part of the official record and the news stories?

c'mon folks, lets be smarter than the other side. And for the love of all that is holy, lets at least be more fucking honest than the other side.


It happened. Let's deal with it.


AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
20. Of course it should be part of the record.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:39 AM
Aug 2014

But so should what happened later. And right now that is what is getting lost here -- Brown was apparently unarmed and was met with deadly force.

Releasing information like this, days after the fact, when tensions are already high is a hard way to "deal with it." What more information is the Ferguson PD going to decide to release piecemeal?



 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
21. Sorry. This bullshit is just not believable. Here's why...
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:45 AM
Aug 2014

A person who is about to start college is calmly walking down the street with a friend gets killed for being a suspect. Well I got to ask why someone who works hard enough to get into college would risk that by committing a robbery ...especially over a cigar. Come on now ...WTF ...does that make any sense? If you think its hard to get into college being white ...use your imagination or get some new friends.

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