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doxydad

(1,363 posts)
2. In my area...
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 09:48 AM
Aug 2014

There was a story on the local News channel (we're on your side) that said of the graduates of this last class, roughly 34% could not find job in their field of 'expertise'. In a similar story, a welding, metal craft school here placed 100% of their graduates in high paying iron work jobs. So...Business Insider wariness aside, I see the point of college, with it's massive debts, not being quite the star of the hiring world it once was.

rurallib

(62,424 posts)
4. But post-secondary education, I believe, is a must
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 09:59 AM
Aug 2014

welding for instance, is usually either honed or picked up at a local community college.

I am quite interested right now because we have a mentee graduating next year. His family is far from rich. If he comes to us for advice I will probably recommend he go to community college for a trade, then go to regular college after that if he still has the desire.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
7. At the start of the article is mentioned that unemployment is twice as high for
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:02 AM
Aug 2014

people without college.

I am not wary simply because the source is Business Insider. Nor am I saying that everyone should go to college. However, I can think of a lot of reasons why the 10% want to convince American workers that a college education ain't no thing when it comes to putting money in their pockets.

And, by the way, an education used to mean quite a lot in the workplace. Why did that change?

Rather than look at the reasons for that or make college educations more affordable, let's convince Americans that they don't no silly college education.

And, I would bet that, as we type, people are looking at ways to eliminate US workers from the metal craft industry, either by offshoring or by robots or whatever. Within human memory, working on an assembly line in Detroit was probably a better deal than teaching junior college. Financially, anyway.

 

NM_Birder

(1,591 posts)
3. That table is a joke.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 09:53 AM
Aug 2014


The article gives the impression a 25 dollar an hour job is easily attainable without a higher education. it's about as truthful as the 6% unemployment rate.

rurallib

(62,424 posts)
6. yep - noticed that also
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:01 AM
Aug 2014

most of the jobs listed come after years of hard work most likely for one company. Plus most likely a lot of luck, being in the right place at the right time.

 

NM_Birder

(1,591 posts)
8. The commercial pilot was the one that stuck out the most lol !
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:08 AM
Aug 2014

but I'm sure there are plenty of opportunities as a Nuclear Power Reactor Operator for high school graduates LOL !

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
9. +1
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:21 AM
Aug 2014

It is important to point out those are not the starting salaries, but the median wage which could take some time to reach once a person is hired and trained.

 

NM_Birder

(1,591 posts)
14. the boardgame "SORRY' comes to mind.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:44 AM
Aug 2014

or ...in the game of "LIFE" you get to start digging ditches at 45 years old.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
5. Perhaps, but it's kinda hard to work for folks who've proven themselves
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:01 AM
Aug 2014

to be liars cheats and theives and you've been given a strong honor code against such highly-educated activities. Work your way up under the tuteledge of the most highly skilled liars in the world! You too can earn a good living, even without a college degree, provided you're willing to take some training from the most skilled liars in the world!

Yavin4

(35,443 posts)
12. You need a college education because you need to develop your ability to learn new and difficult
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:33 AM
Aug 2014

things which is what college is all about. You cannot survive in the long term by mastering one skill because you leave yourself open to cheaper labor, automation, or outsourcing.

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