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Who Said It: Hillary Clinton or John McCain? Take this quiz (Original Post) Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 OP
5/10 Ichingcarpenter Aug 2014 #1
Certainly not when they're talking prattle rock Aug 2014 #2
Ditto! Dustlawyer Aug 2014 #19
I went through and just chose Hillary every time regardles the question. NM_Birder Aug 2014 #4
Same here. They're like the Olsen Twins of politics. nt valerief Aug 2014 #10
Ha! 7 out of 10. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #40
Hillary Clinton running to the right ... earthside Aug 2014 #3
sure she would dsc Aug 2014 #5
You're arguing who's the least right candidate. Dawgs Aug 2014 #8
Good point. n/t A Simple Game Aug 2014 #13
No I am correcting bullshit dsc Aug 2014 #14
Actually, you didn't correct bullshit. You just gave examples. Dawgs Aug 2014 #15
Go ahead and make your list dsc Aug 2014 #16
Doesn't matter. Dawgs Aug 2014 #18
spoken as a white straight male I would be willing to bet dsc Aug 2014 #20
Again, Hillary AND Paul are both terrible. We shouldn't accept either of them. Dawgs Aug 2014 #25
I am going to assume you don't mean what you wrote in your first sentence dsc Aug 2014 #27
Do you foxface Aug 2014 #31
which Rand Paul would that be dsc Aug 2014 #32
Oops. Very poorly written sentence. Didn't mean it. Thanks. Dawgs Aug 2014 #34
Aside from his gun position I have no problem with Sanders dsc Aug 2014 #36
Where is your proof? Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #41
thank you earthside, i agree saidsimplesimon Aug 2014 #28
You got 4 correct answers out of 10 questions progressoid Aug 2014 #6
Got 5/10.... beerandjesus Aug 2014 #7
Bwahahahaha!!!! valerief Aug 2014 #11
That's exactly why I chose Hillary on that one! Lol Dustlawyer Aug 2014 #21
Point made, I don't even need to take the quiz. tridim Aug 2014 #9
Scary, ain't it? marble falls Aug 2014 #12
I got the one on ISIS right... MoonchildCA Aug 2014 #17
I suppose the notion that Hillary might know what "raison d’ętre" means is positive. Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #24
"raison d'etre" didn't help Gore, nor Kerry saidsimplesimon Aug 2014 #30
6/10 frylock Aug 2014 #22
me too AtomicKitten Aug 2014 #42
Now, let's spin that oldie but goodie rocktivity Aug 2014 #23
4/10 AnAzulTexas Aug 2014 #26
4/10 SpankMe Aug 2014 #29
not being a liberal purist is to be expected - but is being essentially a foreign policy neocon Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #37
knr Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #33
6 of 10. She is hopeless TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #35
Good, The Nation, Mother Jones, and Liberal Radio are saying this betterdemsonly Aug 2014 #38
Neck and neck with senile reverse ace. Argh! JEB Aug 2014 #39
knr Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #43
another kick Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #44

earthside

(6,960 posts)
3. Hillary Clinton running to the right ...
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 09:39 AM
Aug 2014

... of Rand Paul.

If by some miracle Rand Paul got the nomination of the Repuglican Party, and Hillary Clinton is coronated as nominee of the Democratic Party, it looks like Hillary would be running to the right of Paul.

Yup.
That's what American needs ... a presidential contest between a Wall Street libertarian and a Wall Street neocon.

dsc

(52,163 posts)
5. sure she would
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 09:51 AM
Aug 2014

she is to the right of him on gay rights, no wait that is bullshit. She is to the right of him on abortion, no wait that is bullshit. She is to the right of him on voting rights, no wait that is bullshit. She is to the right of him on climate change, no wait that is bullshit. She is to the right of him on social programs like food stamps, no wait that is bullshit. I could go on but I think I made my point.

dsc

(52,163 posts)
14. No I am correcting bullshit
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:50 AM
Aug 2014

for the record, I have no idea who I am voting for in 2016, I am too busy with 2014. I can see scenarios in which I would vote for Hillary and scenarios in which I wouldn't. Not being psychic, I have no idea which scenario will play out.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
15. Actually, you didn't correct bullshit. You just gave examples.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:58 AM
Aug 2014

You just pointed out where Hillary is more to the left than Rand. I could do the same showing where Rand is more to the left than Hillary on certain issues. And, some of those are pretty big.. like her being more hawkish on war.

dsc

(52,163 posts)
16. Go ahead and make your list
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:03 AM
Aug 2014

I absolutely guarantee that my list will be both longer and more substantive.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
18. Doesn't matter.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:16 AM
Aug 2014

They are both center right politicians.

Hillary is pro Wall Street, pro Lobbyist, and pro War. Rand Paul is worse on some social issues. So what? They're both terrible, and I think that's the point.

dsc

(52,163 posts)
20. spoken as a white straight male I would be willing to bet
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:20 AM
Aug 2014

otherwise I doubt you would think the voting rights act, gay rights, and abortion among other things amount to so what.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
25. Again, Hillary AND Paul are both terrible. We shouldn't accept either of them.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:44 AM
Aug 2014

And, I'm against everything that Democrats once considered important; like worker's rights, peace over war, gay rights, abortion rights, civil rights, etc. That's why I support Bernie Sanders over any other candidate.



dsc

(52,163 posts)
27. I am going to assume you don't mean what you wrote in your first sentence
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:00 PM
Aug 2014

but the fact is if you don't see a difference between Hillary and Ron Paul then you really don't hold those issues in very high regard and again, I suspect you have that position due to not really needing those rights all that badly yourself.

dsc

(52,163 posts)
32. which Rand Paul would that be
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:17 PM
Aug 2014

the one would would eliminate foreign aid from Israel or the one who has apparently claimed never to say that. Paul has a disturbing habit of saying whatever it takes to get people to vote for him.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
34. Oops. Very poorly written sentence. Didn't mean it. Thanks.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 01:40 PM
Aug 2014

I see quite a big difference between Hillary and Paul. I also think both would be very poor choices as President.

So, you're wrong, and I already told you that I hold all of those issues in very high regard. That's why I support Bernie Sanders, whom I'm guessing you would also criticize.

dsc

(52,163 posts)
36. Aside from his gun position I have no problem with Sanders
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 02:31 PM
Aug 2014

though I have some doubts he is capable of translating his success in Vermont nationwide. I frankly think Sherrod Brown would be far more able to translate his electoral success nationwide and is as liberal as Sanders.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
28. thank you earthside, i agree
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:02 PM
Aug 2014

We need only look back on the policies of the big dog's administration for our clues to beware of the democrat wearing the cloak of the republican ruling class.

Repeating my current mantra: Let's do it to it in the 2014 elections.

After that, I'll entertain the next round of strategy and tactics to send every greedy politician home. They hate the talk of term limits. It would be a 50 state battle to limit their influence to say 3 terms max?

beerandjesus

(1,301 posts)
7. Got 5/10....
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:12 AM
Aug 2014

...but one of those I only got right because I couldn't imagine McCain using the term "raison d'etre".

tridim

(45,358 posts)
9. Point made, I don't even need to take the quiz.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:19 AM
Aug 2014

The fact that a quiz like this is even possible is reason enough that she should never be our nominee.

Progress, not regress.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
30. "raison d'etre" didn't help Gore, nor Kerry
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:12 PM
Aug 2014

Thank you Mr. Carpenter for disabusing me of preconceived "notions". I've been waiting for a woman President since the days of Geraldine Ferraro. I'm still waiting for a real Democrat to emerge in 2016.

Bernie Sanders, I respect and support.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
23. Now, let's spin that oldie but goodie
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:34 AM
Aug 2014
...One's a trash-talking thug trying to stay one step ahead of the law. The other was played by James Gandolfini. Can you identify the speaker of the ten quotes? It's time to play Name That Goon! Rod Blagojevich vs. Tony Soprano


rocktivity

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
29. 4/10
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:08 PM
Aug 2014

I didn't know that McCain was to the left of Hillary on these issues.

We don't have to agree on everything, though. If she's the nominee in 2016, she gets my vote anyway - regardless of who the Republican candidate is. She'd be the firewall that keeps the entire, hardcore congressional Republican agenda in check, even if she's not a liberal purist.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
37. not being a liberal purist is to be expected - but is being essentially a foreign policy neocon
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 02:47 PM
Aug 2014

really acceptable?

 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
38. Good, The Nation, Mother Jones, and Liberal Radio are saying this
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 02:54 PM
Aug 2014

stuff so older dems that don't get on the internet, and who take landline polls are getting exposed to her garbage.

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