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elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 08:10 PM Aug 2014

Time to DEMAND that our cops give their military hardware to the National Guard

Why not? They've proven they can't handle it.

They WON'T use it when threatened with real weapons (Cliven Bundy) but they sure whip that shit out for peaceful protests.

WTF do we need to do? A peaceful OPEN CARRY DEMONSTRATION against police brutality and militarization?

also, put a GoPro on every cop.

Finally, Ferguson demos need more white people. Can't hurt. I'd be there if I could.

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Time to DEMAND that our cops give their military hardware to the National Guard (Original Post) elehhhhna Aug 2014 OP
k/r Dawson Leery Aug 2014 #1
I agree with all of that. LuvNewcastle Aug 2014 #2
Does any entity but the military really LiberalElite Aug 2014 #3
There are more than half a million law enforcement agencies in the country. Who is 'our cops'? randome Aug 2014 #4
Maybe it's more than just the equipment Bragi Aug 2014 #5
they need some serious discipline elehhhhna Aug 2014 #6
You can't force discipline on unbalanced individuals. randome Aug 2014 #8
Today on MSNBC I heard a guest mention that the money to buy this police military hardware aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #7

LuvNewcastle

(16,847 posts)
2. I agree with all of that.
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 08:24 PM
Aug 2014

I don't understand why there aren't more white people at the protests, either. Although minorities bear the brunt of police brutality, they attack plenty of white people as well. But even if they didn't attack whites, their actions are deplorable, and we all need to stand in solidarity against it.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
3. Does any entity but the military really
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 08:30 PM
Aug 2014

need military equipment? I dont' know that I'd feel better with the National Guard having that stuff.
P.S. As a white person, I'd be there too if I could - I attended a rally for Abner Louima where there were maybe six caucasians in attendance out of a couple thousand. re: Louima see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abner_Louima
I attended the Louima rally because I grew up during the civil rights struggles (albeit in the Northeast) and it made an impression - I was not raised to be prejudiced. I was at the Louima rally because I believed that it was important that white people be in attendance so they (African Americans) could see we're not all the same.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
4. There are more than half a million law enforcement agencies in the country. Who is 'our cops'?
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 08:30 PM
Aug 2014

Define military hardware. Define which agencies actually need it and which do not.

I agree there has been too much militarization of the police but someone needs to set some definitions. I don't know much about the recent bill in Congress to reduce the hardware given out to local agencies but it's probably a step in the right direction.

However, none of this will stop an unbalanced cop from causing harm or killing someone.
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Bragi

(7,650 posts)
5. Maybe it's more than just the equipment
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 09:08 PM
Aug 2014

I agree that the military equipment now used in U.S domestic policing is ridiculous, but I'm more concerned about the attitude and the approach to policing that wanting this kit implies. Since when was it thought that serving and protecting American citizens at home involved the same kind of approaches, tactics, etc. as, say, establishing and maintaining a military occupation of a hostile population. That a very badly distorted view, yet it seems to be the dominant one guiding much of current U.S policing practices.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
8. You can't force discipline on unbalanced individuals.
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 09:36 PM
Aug 2014

They need to hire only the best and brightest. Like we do for our educational system.
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aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
7. Today on MSNBC I heard a guest mention that the money to buy this police military hardware
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 09:20 PM
Aug 2014

is often coming from drug asset forfeitures. Apparently under the current law, the police can come in and take your car, your home, your land, and anything else they want on the mere suspicion you are engaged in illegal drug dealing. Apparently, innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply to this area; if you are innocent you have to prove your innocence (instead of the state having to prove your guilt) and many people simply can't finance that kind of affirmative defense.

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