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TexasTowelie

(112,460 posts)
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 01:11 AM Aug 2014

I got out of a crisis center tonight

to hear the news about Robin Williams.

I went to an initial psychiatric evaluation on Friday and mentioned that I've had suicidal thoughts and the means to commit suicide, but at the time I was not feeling that way and was actually kind of upbeat that I was finally getting some help. While I understand the psychiatrist's obligations, she sent me for a 48 hour hold to a crisis center. I can't say that it made me feel any better and in some ways it made me feel worse because I was so bored that during most of the stay I dwelled on my problems and the impact it has on others.

You might be asking why if it was a 48 hour hold that I didn't get out until tonight. The reason why is that crisis center does not discharge any patients over the weekend so I knew that I wouldn't be out until Monday around noon. This morning I found out that my brother who was providing my ride home had to work so I didn't get picked up until this evening (80 hours). When I saw my brother I learned that he had to return to the hospital where he worked so I spent about an hour there waiting for him to take care of a patient. He is all hyped up tonight since he was called into work on PRN status at about noon and then again for a couple more hours so we almost got into an argument. I recognized that he was probably going to say some things I didn't want to hear so I went for a late night walk to let things settle down.

Anyway, he was still upset when I got back so I offered to help him get his scrubs laundered since he works tomorrow. I have an early morning meeting with my case manager and there are going to be a few things that I want to discuss with him. I'm a bit upset about a few things, but I think that I'm handling things fairly well. Still the news about Robin Williams was startling to hear this evening.

For those that have a mental illness, or have family or friends with mental illness, I'll take time to think about you tonight and hope that tomorrow will be a better day. I know that I've been pretty down myself over the last few months, but I haven't given up yet which is why I'm seeking help. I may not be getting the help that I want or need, but I made it through another day and I am not a disposable Towelie.

RIP Robin and condolences to his family, friends and fans.

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I got out of a crisis center tonight (Original Post) TexasTowelie Aug 2014 OP
So glad you are still with us, TT. I've been there too many times myself. It's good you had the Mnemosyne Aug 2014 #1
After 49 years I should be able to recognize the triggers to stress. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #7
Sounds like you handled it all very well. I hope it goes well with the psychiatrist, they need Mnemosyne Aug 2014 #14
we're right here for you/with you TT bigtree Aug 2014 #2
Thank you. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #36
right on. I thought it might bigtree Aug 2014 #46
You're in my thoughts, too, TT! octoberlib Aug 2014 #3
Thank you, TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #37
Take care of yourself, TT, my fellow Texas inhabitant! nt ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #4
Hello ChisolmTrail, TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #39
Good on you for KT2000 Aug 2014 #5
Hello KT2000, TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #42
Nice seeing you again TT lovemydog Aug 2014 #6
Hello and yes TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #44
Haha, thanks. lovemydog Aug 2014 #60
Having prayed at bedtime never to wake up to another day NBachers Aug 2014 #8
Been there... And very close it right now. freshwest Aug 2014 #11
All I can tell you is . . . I'm glad I stuck around NBachers Aug 2014 #13
Oh, I've stuck around. I have people who *really* do need me, and I'm not exaggerating. freshwest Aug 2014 #16
Hello, I'm okay and I'll be sending you a PM soon. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #47
. bigtree Aug 2014 #15
Thank you bigtree. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #48
oh, yeah buddy. you've got friends alright. bigtree Aug 2014 #52
Hey, I'm on a roll and I get to sleep in tomorrow! TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #53
Every new day is another chance to start again. It's how I survive, knowing that maybe this Mnemosyne Aug 2014 #17
Besides, You can't Leave Before the Big Finale... Needa Moment Aug 2014 #23
welcome to DU, and I wish this weren't just a virtual hug renate Aug 2014 #27
Thank you Renate Needa Moment Aug 2014 #58
I also want to welcome you to DU TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #54
Thank you Towlie... Needa Moment Aug 2014 #57
Thanks for that. freshwest Aug 2014 #25
... F4lconF16 Aug 2014 #30
I barely know you except from this forum. F4lconF16 Aug 2014 #28
Thank you. freshwest Aug 2014 #31
Yes. Mnemosyne Aug 2014 #18
And that is what happened to me today so thank you for the thoughtful words. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #45
k&r Liberal_in_LA Aug 2014 #9
Thank you so much. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #49
Los Angeles Liberal_in_LA Aug 2014 #59
TexasT.. Cha Aug 2014 #10
Mahalo Cha! TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #55
Kaua'i dodged two hurricanes, TT.. we are Hap-py! Cha Aug 2014 #56
Much love, TT. Will send a PM, if you don't mind? freshwest Aug 2014 #12
Please let me know what is happening. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #21
Okay, I'll talk about that later. I just responded to a mail from you, and the focus is you. freshwest Aug 2014 #26
think of things you love MFM008 Aug 2014 #19
I use this strategy too BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2014 #22
All the best to you. littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #20
To all of you in this thread... Hekate Aug 2014 #24
As I said to Freshwest, I don't know you but for your posts. F4lconF16 Aug 2014 #29
.... love_katz Aug 2014 #32
Thanks for checking in. peace13 Aug 2014 #33
what finally made you decide to go? jacksback_1 Aug 2014 #34
What got me to go jeff47 Aug 2014 #35
This has got to be the most important thread I've read in quite a while... MrMickeysMom Aug 2014 #38
Dearest 3M, TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #40
We care about you, Towelie!!!! Manifestor_of_Light Aug 2014 #41
Thank you for being for one of my friends that helps me find the light. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #43
All any of us have marions ghost Aug 2014 #50
Thank you so much for the words of wisdom. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #51
Sometimes it is better to be safe than sorry davidpdx Aug 2014 #61

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
1. So glad you are still with us, TT. I've been there too many times myself. It's good you had the
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 01:25 AM
Aug 2014

self-awareness to realize you needed help. It takes great courage to face ourselves.

TexasTowelie

(112,460 posts)
7. After 49 years I should be able to recognize the triggers to stress.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 01:39 AM
Aug 2014

I may fight with my brother on occasion, but I do love him and realize that deep down he also cares about me. He would probably benefit from some counseling also, but I really don't want to see his reaction if I suggest it. I felt that I diffused the situation fairly well.

I also felt that I handled the situation with the psychiatrist well. I did not let the situation result in either conflict or resistance. If I get to talk with the psychiatrist tomorrow, I am going to ask her how she would feel if she went to someone asking for help and she was put into a crisis center. She completely over-reacted to the situation and it breeds an atmosphere of distrust between the patients and the counselors when that occurs.

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
14. Sounds like you handled it all very well. I hope it goes well with the psychiatrist, they need
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 02:12 AM
Aug 2014

reminded that we are human beings too and need to look from our perspective if they really want to help us.

My family considers mental illness a weakness and all of them truly desperately need help, but anytime I suggested it they would shame me for being so "weak", "a mental case" and of "not trying hard enough". They were toxic to me and it has taken me decades to understand their rejection. It is fear, nothing less.

I hope you get a good night's sleep. Tomorrow is another day and each tomorrow is a chance for a new beginning.

TexasTowelie

(112,460 posts)
39. Hello ChisolmTrail,
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 11:52 PM
Aug 2014

I always liked your blogger name for its historical significance. The DART bus stations in Irving had a lot of historical background about the Chisolm Trail and the one in downtown Irving has a map of the area including all of the old cattle trails. I'd recommend taking a break there if you riding the TRE between Dallas and Fort Worth.

I'm also familiar with the use of Chisolm Trail in the Round Rock area, but don't know as much history in that part of the state.

Things worked out pretty well for me today and I was able to cancel an appointment my schedule for Wednesday so hopefully I can catch up on some sleep tomorrow.

TexasTowelie

(112,460 posts)
42. Hello KT2000,
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 12:04 AM
Aug 2014

It was one of the better days that I have had lately. Apparently those good vibes have some powerful healing action. It's kind of difficult to stay down in the dumps when I have a support group like my friends on DU so I guess that I'm in the mania part of the depression where everyone is boosting my self esteem and I'm feeling the joyful buzz. Hopefully the good vibes are contagious and this thread is helping out everyone else that might be feeling like they are in a low spot.

TexasTowelie

(112,460 posts)
44. Hello and yes
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 12:28 AM
Aug 2014

I LOVE YOUR DOG! :why aren't there hug a dog/cat icons?:

It's great to be back and I'm doing pretty well. I knew I was okay when I went into the center and I'm hoping to see some benefits. The support that I have received from you and everyone has been extremely appreciated and I hope that the good vibes go out to everyone that needs them.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
60. Haha, thanks.
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 05:25 AM
Aug 2014

I love being able to go slow. That's what treatment has done & continues to do for me. Right now, I just take medication (paxil) and see my therapist once a month. I'm grateful that I have an excellent therapist and that I manage this stuff to the point where I truly find joy. Not all the time. I don't expect or even want some manic 'Yeah, I feel fantastic all the time!' type of life. But when I do feel joy, at appropriate and meaningful times like seeing the stars & moon at night or having a nice conversation with a friend in person, it's really satisfying.

Like you, the support I've received from everyone here is extremely appreciated. Just the fact that no one has been mean or ignorant really means a lot. I'm not one of those who talks about it a lot. But just talking about it a bit here, these past couple of days, has helped me to understand that it's really not uncommon, and no one will judge me negatively for it, or try and stay away from me for it.

Thanks for your kind words. It means a lot.

NBachers

(17,149 posts)
8. Having prayed at bedtime never to wake up to another day
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 01:43 AM
Aug 2014

Having shuddered when I walked out the door in the morning,

because just getting to that point required more power

than most people need to get through a whole day.

And knowing I had the entire rest of the day to contend with, and no resources to do it.

Fighting against the infinite vacuum within me

as it crushes in the walls of my psyche

I can tell you this: At some point, and I don't know how - it gets better. Just stick around long enough.

Sometimes, all you can do,

is keep putting one foot

in front of the other.

Do that

NBachers

(17,149 posts)
13. All I can tell you is . . . I'm glad I stuck around
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 02:03 AM
Aug 2014

and if you stick around, you will get here, too.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
16. Oh, I've stuck around. I have people who *really* do need me, and I'm not exaggerating.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 02:15 AM
Aug 2014

It's not enough, though.

But at one time when I was very, very close, about the third time, it hit me about all the people who'd torn my world apart...

They weren't going out that way, they didn't care. So I figured, if they think they are good to live that I had to forgive myself for my failures.

Then came my journey of recognizing I could create my life. And that helped a lot.

At this point I feel very trapped, and wonder how much longer I can do what I need to do. It's more frustration than anything else, and of course there is that one thing missing.

And I'm sure you know exactly what it is.

TexasTowelie

(112,460 posts)
47. Hello, I'm okay and I'll be sending you a PM soon.
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 12:40 AM
Aug 2014

Thank you for contacting me. It was a long day so I'm trying to get some replies out to everyone.

TexasTowelie

(112,460 posts)
48. Thank you bigtree.
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 12:45 AM
Aug 2014

I'm trying to keep it short since I'm getting a bit tired with this spurt of writing, but I'm happy to receive cyber hugs and real hugs 24/7.

It's fantastic to know that I have friends and I want to return the good vibes back to all.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
52. oh, yeah buddy. you've got friends alright.
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 01:30 AM
Aug 2014

. . . now, didn't I tell you to go the heck to bed? see ya t'morrow, bud.

TexasTowelie

(112,460 posts)
53. Hey, I'm on a roll and I get to sleep in tomorrow!
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 01:37 AM
Aug 2014

One of the few advantages of being an unemployed lazy bum.

I've fallen a bit behind of taking care of correspondence not only in regards to this thread, but with a few other people I need to contact so I figured that this was a good starting point and I'll keep going until I run out of steam. I spent enough time sleeping and isolated while I was in the crisis center so this is my sinful indulgence.

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
17. Every new day is another chance to start again. It's how I survive, knowing that maybe this
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 02:16 AM
Aug 2014

tomorrow is the one that gets better. Sooner or later is always does. I keep telling myself that it is a chemical imbalance, or whatever it is, and not a personal failure and it helps too.

Needa Moment

(56 posts)
23. Besides, You can't Leave Before the Big Finale...
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 03:08 AM
Aug 2014

... I think we're gearing up for a Giant Spectacle. Just wait for After the Dolphins start to Sing!

But in all seriousness, Find some good, close and steep hills that you can work a repetitive pattern to (or something similar?: Canyon Switchbacks..., Biking) something not too time consuming with some hard bilateral sub-cognition involvement. Life seems to get into better balance when a seemingly (but not so) mundane activity like this can be forced into a daily cycle for a while.

I say this now, because personally I really miss this small trivial token in my life; for the moment, trying to catch up financially and working way to many hours in the day/night. Sucks that this new job doesn't have a convenient steep hill nearby. Salary blows big time too. Comp-Time is sooo 80's I suppose.

renate

(13,776 posts)
27. welcome to DU, and I wish this weren't just a virtual hug
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 03:52 AM
Aug 2014

Good advice, and I hope things get easier (and, although it seems counterintuitive, hillier) for you very, very soon.

Needa Moment

(56 posts)
58. Thank you Renate
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 02:59 AM
Aug 2014

for the kind welcome.

I have been fortunate enough at the past few jobs to have a neighboring hill/mountain to escape off to for a break in the past (boss is on me like a tick at this one and many times not even 1 break in 10hrs. - employers that make it like this i consider pretty stupid. And new or not, i'll continue hunting the OL classifieds!)

Thom H. had a wonderful segment on bilateral therapy last week on his radio program. if you can find a place to catch an archive for it, it was sure a great listen.

TexasTowelie

(112,460 posts)
54. I also want to welcome you to DU
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 01:44 AM
Aug 2014

and joining the discussion.

It's kind of difficult to be 49 years young and still asking the question, "What am I going to do in my life?" The odd thing is that I did not have a lot of anxiety about getting out of the crisis center like the other patients who were pacing the floor and calling their outside contacts repeatedly looking for self-assurance.

I hope that you become a vital part of the DU community--over the past three years I've learned that there are some wonderful people here...and then there is (insert username of the first person that vehemently disagrees with you).

Needa Moment

(56 posts)
57. Thank you Towlie...
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 02:43 AM
Aug 2014

I'm one of the freaky kind that usually racks up a couple hundred posts before a joke rubs some the wrong way and then get the boot. I hope i can stay a little longer this time around to converse with good souls such as yourself. I'm sure I'm not alone with this affliction.

Don't get many moments in a day to chat with anyone. And this place has always been the tops for some viewing wonderful discussion on fascinating topics.

Thank you again for the welcoming Towlie!

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
28. I barely know you except from this forum.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 03:58 AM
Aug 2014

But I'm glad you're here. You're in my thoughts.

Strength and love.

TexasTowelie

(112,460 posts)
45. And that is what happened to me today so thank you for the thoughtful words.
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 12:33 AM
Aug 2014

I've written several replies today and at least for awhile I feel stronger than the day before. There will be still be obstacles and trials to deal with in my life, but I'm trying to keep on putting one foot in front of the other to reach my goals. Please feel free to read the other comments in the thread for more info and thank you for offering your support.

TexasTowelie

(112,460 posts)
49. Thank you so much.
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 12:49 AM
Aug 2014

Is the LA or Los Angeles or Louisiana? If it is the latter, then I'll try to get in touch if I get to go on any road trips in the future.

TexasTowelie

(112,460 posts)
55. Mahalo Cha!
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 02:03 AM
Aug 2014

How have things been for you as far as surviving the storms out your way? I lost track as to whether you posted any updates since I was offline for a few days during my detainment.

There were a few minor obstacles to overcome today, but I actually felt upbeat for the first time in awhile. I always knew that I was a bit crazy, but now I'm aiming to be U.S. government-certified crazy!

I'm hoping that maybe I'm on a winning streak which reminds me that I need to check my MegaMillions ticket to see if I hit the jackpot. If that occurs, then I will be in touch so I can get a tour from one of the locals.

Cha

(297,733 posts)
56. Kaua'i dodged two hurricanes, TT.. we are Hap-py!
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 02:12 AM
Aug 2014


So, glad you're hanging on to your sense of humor, buddy.. I've found from personal experience how much that help us when it gets to be just Too Damn Much!

TexasTowelie

(112,460 posts)
21. Please let me know what is happening.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 02:50 AM
Aug 2014

I'm heading to bed soon, but I'll get back in touch as soon as I can tomorrow.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
26. Okay, I'll talk about that later. I just responded to a mail from you, and the focus is you.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 03:45 AM
Aug 2014

Don't stay up, though, get that sleep!

MFM008

(19,820 posts)
19. think of things you love
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 02:34 AM
Aug 2014

not just friends or family something as simple as a coke, a trip to library, favorite perfume. I know it seems silly to battle the dragon of depression, but small things can break through. Sometime you just need to be freakin medicated. Do it. Im 55, its taken me since the age of 7 to fine tune everything to get to a place of peace. Sometimes it takes a hospital even. I know, I had the same room 3 times at the local hospital.... good luck and love to all who suffer.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
22. I use this strategy too
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 03:06 AM
Aug 2014

And meds, and a really good therapist (so glad I finally found her), and working on changing self-sabotaging habits, and learning better self-care......all on the foundation of Buddhist practice.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
29. As I said to Freshwest, I don't know you but for your posts.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 04:00 AM
Aug 2014

But I'm glad you're still here.

Strength and love.

Jeff

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
33. Thanks for checking in.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 07:03 AM
Aug 2014

Peace and love to you! I hope your meeting goes well today!

Don't forget to breathe! Hugs, Kim

 

jacksback_1

(3 posts)
34. what finally made you decide to go?
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 08:38 AM
Aug 2014

ive been thinking about going to a therapist or something to get some help with my depression, however i always manage to talk myself out of it. i fell like i'm just being a whiny little bitch, i can step outside my house right now and easily find 20 or so people who have it harder then i do, and yet they're coping.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
35. What got me to go
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 11:39 AM
Aug 2014

(not the OP, but I'm someone who did suffer from Depression)

What got me to go was my now-Ex made it more of a pain in the ass to not go than to go. Essentially, I started going to get her to shut up about therapy, on the assumption that it would be useless, and that I was just being whiny.

And then I went. And talking about by problems (and medication) turned out to be EXTREMELY helpful.

Go. Even if you're just being whiny. Even if there are other people worse off. Even if it's a bit of a pain in the ass. Every single person on the planet could benefit from a little psychotherapy.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
38. This has got to be the most important thread I've read in quite a while...
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 11:40 PM
Aug 2014

I'm long past the dark night, as I now call it.

You (we) are having the most productive conversation. I'm not contributing anything more than agreeing with all of you guys. The work you do to face it, but not alone, to have someone there virtual or not, to use a "three prong" approach (therapy, physical long muscle activity, meds appropriate) will bring you to another day that is VERY different.

It may not seem like much of a recipe, but it is everything to me.

And, Texas Towelie…

TexasTowelie

(112,460 posts)
40. Dearest 3M,
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 11:58 PM
Aug 2014

Thank you for the words of encouragement and support. I was able to resolve a few problems today and gave some sassy attitude to a substitute case manager today. However, she was a real trooper and was nice and helpful. I'm a bit more hopeful today than I've been in awhile.

And of course I can't receive a virtual hug without giving one back.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
41. We care about you, Towelie!!!!
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 12:00 AM
Aug 2014

I really enjoy the frequent posts about what's going on in Texas that keep me informed. You are very thoughtful to do it.

Take life one day at a time and enjoy the small things. Dealing with relatives and depression can be pretty bad.

Exercise to blow off steam and help you sleep better is good.


TexasTowelie

(112,460 posts)
43. Thank you for being for one of my friends that helps me find the light.
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 12:20 AM
Aug 2014

I'm hoping that I had another hospital admission is going to bolster my case for disability income and that I'll approved quicker. I'm having some physical ailments that are more pronounced lately. However, if I can resolve a few more issues I'd love to take a tour of the triangle cities and the towns in between and meet up with my virtual-world friends.

I missed being in contact with everyone while I was being looked after, but I also know that there are people that care about me which gives me strength. It''s the unexpected issues that are causing me the most problems currently and if I learn how to keep control during the emotional times of crisis then I'll be better off for it.

I'm amazed that a simple post like this OP brings out the best from my fellow DUers and I'll be eternally grateful to all for their support.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
50. All any of us have
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 12:49 AM
Aug 2014

is this one day to work with. Give yourself the gift of time, Towelie.

for your courage and wisdom in getting help, and for your reaching out to others, especially on this day that we all are depressed about Robin Williams. Seems to me there are a lot of good friends here and the empathy is obvious--you are not alone. I would add one more thing--try to schedule in some fun--whatever you like to do for entertainment or relaxation that is healthy. Literally put it into your life as a priority. Maybe even start doing something new you've never tried before that is a challenge. You can work through this. Good luck.

TexasTowelie

(112,460 posts)
51. Thank you so much for the words of wisdom.
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 01:23 AM
Aug 2014

I must admit that right now it is just too hot to do much of anything for another month or so. I'll have to consider what options are available due to my situation.

I've got some long term goals so at least I have some hope. I think that it is a matter of patience to get through the issues I'm facing so I'm taking that deep breath and hanging in there for the people that care about me.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
61. Sometimes it is better to be safe than sorry
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 06:59 AM
Aug 2014

So I'm glad you went in for the evaluation even though you didn't have any specific thoughts of doing something. Who knows if a day or day and a half later things would have gotten worse if you had decided against going.

I wish there was more help here in Korea for foreigners. I have a doctor here who is great, but there is only so much he can do. He's not a therapist.

The news of Robin Williams death hit too close to home for me not only in terms of how he died, but just home much I admired him. It is terrible.

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